Stephenwolsten Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) Old tyres used as fenders, Birkenhead docks. Edited October 11, 2022 by Stephenwolsten Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephenwolsten Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 Princes Dock area. The transit shed would make a good 'view blocker' at the edge of a layout. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephenwolsten Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) Dock road wall, signal, overhead structures and entrance to Riverside Branch at Waterloo Goods/corn warehouse. Please see 16 July 2019 post for a 1967 view. Edited October 9, 2022 by Stephenwolsten Added information Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephenwolsten Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 Riverside Station MDHB. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stephenwolsten Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) Two of my favourite Liverpool images. Edited October 11, 2022 by Stephenwolsten Added image. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted May 30, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 30, 2019 Good stuff there 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Nice video, there's a of inspiration there, buildings, trackwork, overhead gantries, great stuff! Steve. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephenwolsten Posted June 2, 2019 Author Share Posted June 2, 2019 One of the things I have at last realised is that new techniques and technology now make it much easier to start my first (and last) layout. My early days were in the era of heavy 2x1 baseboards with chipboard, Sundalea or ply, heavy lighting systems, and all the problems of electrical wiring and achieving smooth running. I now realise that baseboards can be made very light, LED lights have transformed illumination, and battery powered locos with radio control from an iPhone eliminate all the problems of dirty track, wiring faults and jerky running. I have done some research/Googling but does anyone please have any advice or recommendations about using LED light strips on a layout eg positioning, illumination, need for reflective surface etc? And if I have only a few permanently coupled locos/short trains, can I skip DCC and go straight for radio control and battery power? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted June 3, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 3, 2019 Etches ordered now for the LOR structure and the trailer from the 40ft motor coach stock, we can have some by the end of this month. Judith and Michael Edge 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephenwolsten Posted June 4, 2019 Author Share Posted June 4, 2019 Why call the proposed layout Atlantic Dock? You will find an Atlantic Dock Junction on old railway maps but no Atlantic Dock. This is because a Liverpool Dock was called Atlantic Dock during its construction The dock was built by George Fosbery Lyster between 1874-82. During its construction, the dock was known briefly as Atlantic Dock for about a year. However, the dock was then officially named Alexandra Dock when opened in 1881 and was named in honour of Queen Alexandra. I could call the layout 'Princes Dock' as this is the main area inspiring it. But it won't be an exact copy. 'Riverside' would be a suitably generic title but would be confused with the former MDHB Riverside Station nearby. So 'Atlantic Dock' sounds authentic, has not been used before, and reflects the Port of Liverpool's position and the strong North American influence on the city. 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephenwolsten Posted June 4, 2019 Author Share Posted June 4, 2019 This picture illustrates the track formation on the Overhead Railway. It also shows the early use of colour light signalling. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted June 4, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 4, 2019 Atlantic Dock Junction was on the Bootle branch, Jack Nelson made a diorama of this many years ago. As you say the name is very appropriate. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephenwolsten Posted June 4, 2019 Author Share Posted June 4, 2019 9 hours ago, Michael Edge said: Atlantic Dock Junction was on the Bootle branch, Jack Nelson made a diorama of this many years ago. As you say the name is very appropriate. Yes, and I've always been interested in this location ever since the Jack Nelson diorama featured in a railway magazine. Some pictures on this earlier thread: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephenwolsten Posted June 4, 2019 Author Share Posted June 4, 2019 (edited) I've learn't quite a bit about lightweight construction, backscenes and lighting by studying Gordon Gravett's 7mm Arun Quay layout. Am I alone in spending more time looking underneath and behind layouts, rather than the front of them?! Edited October 9, 2022 by Stephenwolsten 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephenwolsten Posted June 5, 2019 Author Share Posted June 5, 2019 On 04/06/2019 at 11:47, Michael Edge said: Atlantic Dock Junction was on the Bootle branch, Jack Nelson made a diorama of this many years ago. As you say the name is very appropriate. I have tracked down articles covering Jack Nelson's diorama of Atlantic Dock Junction (and others) in Model Railways Magazine, November and December 1972. How time flies! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefromacrossthepond Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Not alone by any means. Learning the various possibilities of constructing benchwork (baseboard) is a good investment in time. After all, you mess up some scenery, you can replace a section. Mess up the foundation and it's start all over from the beginning. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephenwolsten Posted June 5, 2019 Author Share Posted June 5, 2019 John Gahan's book portrays the railways along and over Liverpool's 'dock road' in a very evocative style. I was fortunate to record an extensive video interview with him in Liverpool before he died. His memory was as sharp as ever and his passion for the Overhead Railway very obvious. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephenwolsten Posted June 5, 2019 Author Share Posted June 5, 2019 A much more recent publication, focussing on MDHB locomotives as the title says. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephenwolsten Posted June 5, 2019 Author Share Posted June 5, 2019 Map showing my main area of interest and inspiration. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted June 5, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Stephenwolsten said: John Gahan's book portrays the railways along and over Liverpool's 'dock road' in a very evocative style. I was fortunate to record an extensive video interview with him in Liverpool before he died. His memory was as sharp as ever and his passion for the Overhead Railway very obvious. Lovely bloke John - I knew him through the railway connection as he also photographed the Bootle Branch (Edge Hill - Bootle Junction) including the old Tuebrook signal box and used to tell the story of it's demolition - a G2 with a stout rope tied around the box supports (it was on an embankment) and reverse gear 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted June 5, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) The area below was always one I fancied, very compact, plenty of shunting and even having a small LNWR signal box https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=18&lat=53.4490&lon=-3.0047&layers=168&right=BingHyb Edited June 5, 2019 by beast66606 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Melrose Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Just north of that area abutting Regent Road and Grove Street was a timber yard in the 1960s. I worked for the company that operated from there, Hunter Fowles, during 3 Summer holidays in my student days. It was strenuous stuff but did wonders for my physique and visits from Jinties on shunting duty maintained the railway interest. Stan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephenwolsten Posted June 6, 2019 Author Share Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) Remains of signal at Princes Dock. I read that the cable was run along at a height, to avoid getting caught up in dock movements and storage. The weight was therefore up there too. Edited October 6, 2022 by Stephenwolsten 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephenwolsten Posted June 6, 2019 Author Share Posted June 6, 2019 MDHB loco at Middleton Railway. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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