gridwatcher Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 (edited) Does anyone know which type ran over the Woodhead. Was it the Oxygen or Nitrogen versions? Cheers, Jim Jim, I beg to differ with first reply? It wasn't Nitrogen on Woodhead generally. The picture you were forwarded is on Earles sidings on the Hope Valley line and I suspect Nitrogen tankers came from perhaps Harwich? The Woodhead traffic from Sheffield Broughton Lane to Ditton on Merseyside was Oxygen. Loaded to Sheffield and empty back AFAIR. These tankers did pop up all over the place, both in odd wagons or pairs or block trains and were regularly relabelled from Ox to Nitro as BOC required. The colour bands seem to vary too and seem to bear no relation to what is contained. Regularly the Sheffield traffic had darker red/orange bands on some wagons and lighter pale orange on others in the same block train of Oxygen. Edited December 12, 2018 by gridwatcher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim76 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Thanks Gridwatcher - much appreciated. Presumably the UKF Fertilizers Anhydrous Ammonia tanker trains over Woodhead were a different wagon type again? Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 I remember Widnes to Sheffield BOC trains travelling through Warrington & Lymm on the now closed line back in the mid 70's. The bands were red then. I was called out once to the BOC plant at Widnes, then fairly new - an impressive place. I didn't know these tanks could be seen individually or in pairs - I only remember the block trains.Usually Class 40 hauled through Warrington. Brit15 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PaulCheffus Posted December 13, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 13, 2018 Thanks Gridwatcher - much appreciated. Presumably the UKF Fertilizers Anhydrous Ammonia tanker trains over Woodhead were a different wagon type again? Jim Hi Yes they were, pictures here https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/stsammoniabogie https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/eurlammonia Cheers Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D9502 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Although Olivia's seem to come in for a lot of criticism on this forum I ordered the BOC tanks from their website and they duely arrived yesterday which was a pleasant surprise. Excellent service from them and a happy customer. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted April 9, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 9, 2019 Are these the same models? https://www.hattons.co.uk/450698/Heljan_BOC09_100_ton_BOC_tank_in_BOC_Gases_livery_with_red_stripe_and_Gloucester_bogies_0008/StockDetail.aspx Now in stock at Hattons but listed as Heljan with no mention of Olivia's... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, John M Upton said: Are these the same models? https://www.hattons.co.uk/450698/Heljan_BOC09_100_ton_BOC_tank_in_BOC_Gases_livery_with_red_stripe_and_Gloucester_bogies_0008/StockDetail.aspx Now in stock at Hattons but listed as Heljan with no mention of Olivia's... They are the Olivia's models, the barrier wagons are also available. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted April 9, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 9, 2019 1 hour ago, John M Upton said: Are these the same models? https://www.hattons.co.uk/450698/Heljan_BOC09_100_ton_BOC_tank_in_BOC_Gases_livery_with_red_stripe_and_Gloucester_bogies_0008/StockDetail.aspx Now in stock at Hattons but listed as Heljan with no mention of Olivia's... Same as on the Olivias website strangely enough! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted June 4, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 4, 2019 (edited) On 07/11/2018 at 17:45, 66738 said: I’m interested in the Nitrogen tank(s) to Falmouth. I’ve tried looking in the usual places for an image, but to no avail. Could anyone direct me to a photo depicting said tank either at Falmouth or en route in consist. Many thanks 66738 Found one, I think! http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/truro-area-penwithers-to-buckshead.html Scroll down quite a way until you get to a picture of a Class 25 in Truro yard on a short parcels train. In a siding behind it are two of these bogie tanks sandwiched between three barrier wagons. There’s no guarantee that they are en route to/from Falmouth but I can’t imagine any other reason for them being there. Edited November 20, 2020 by Western Aviator 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseRambler Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 A photo from Peterborough on 05 August 1986. An opportunity for a very short rake of BOC TEAs 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flittersnoop Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 These tank wagons are now on "special offer" from Hattons - £45 each... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 43 minutes ago, Flittersnoop said: These tank wagons are now on "special offer" from Hattons - £45 each... Many thanks for that - at last a sensible price. I'm ordering a couple. Brit15 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium SHerr Posted November 19, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 19, 2020 6 hours ago, Flittersnoop said: These tank wagons are now on "special offer" from Hattons - £45 each... Thanks for posting - 1 ordered for my Norfolk layout as I can actually run just one! I always wanted one of these but not at £75 so good news they are at a more sensible price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
66738 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) Disappearing in front of my eyes before I can purchase them! They won’t hang around long at that price. Like has already been said, no way was I going to purchase at £75, but £45 is a whole different ball game. 66738 Edited November 20, 2020 by 66738 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium SHerr Posted November 20, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 20, 2020 8 hours ago, 66738 said: Disappearing in front of my eyes before I can purchase them! They won’t hang around long at that price. Like has already been said, no way was I going to purchase at £75, but £45 is a whole different ball game. 66738 I presume it was BOC20 you were looking for? I bought 1 at 23-40 and invoice says more than 10 in stock so obviously someone had followed on with a whole rake. I suppose that makes sense it’s a £300 saving on a rake of 10. Just hoping no issue with their ordering system! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
66738 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 2 hours ago, SHerr said: I presume it was BOC20 you were looking for? I bought 1 at 23-40 and invoice says more than 10 in stock so obviously someone had followed on with a whole rake. I suppose that makes sense it’s a £300 saving on a rake of 10. Just hoping no issue with their ordering system! Yes mate, BOC20. But all is well as they’ve found another stash of these tanks and I’ve managed to add onto my order BOC16. The same Red stripe tank, Nitrogen with GPS bogies. You can’t blame them for buying them all. The price is that good. Either re number using the transfer sheet (£6) or if you want, sell on at a profit. T 66738 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Hi, a quick question please. Would these tanks have been seen in service in 1989/90 period in the Scottish central belt? would they be in trainloads or speed link? thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arran Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 9 hours ago, black and decker boy said: Hi, a quick question please. Would these tanks have been seen in service in 1989/90 period in the Scottish central belt? would they be in trainloads or speed link? thank you HI I seen them in Aberdeen on liquid nitrogen traffic in the late 90s. Regards Arran 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 On 21/11/2020 at 07:35, arran said: HI I seen them in Aberdeen on liquid nitrogen traffic in the late 90s. Regards Arran They were also used occasionally on special trainload workings to Mossend/Ravenscraig from Ditton 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl BR Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I've bought a rake of eight but half of my original choice turned out to be out of stock so what I have now got on order is a bit more of a mix bag of liveries of BOC Gases, Unbranded, Red & Yellow stripe Nitrogen & Oxygen. Is this to much of a mix bag for a prototypical train? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyneux Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Carl BR said: I've bought a rake of eight but half of my original choice turned out to be out of stock so what I have now got on order is a bit more of a mix bag of liveries of BOC Gases, Unbranded, Red & Yellow stripe Nitrogen & Oxygen. Is this to much of a mix bag for a prototypical train? Hi Carl, is it for Alderford? Mid-late 80s then, right? If so, then a similar requirement to what I have for Oldshaw. Most of the yellow striped ones had gone by then so you are better off with red-striped. There were only two vehicles AFAIK with BOC gases, so better off with the BOC livery. By this point, GPS bogies seemed to dominate over the original Mk4s, so I'd go for those. Re: oxygen/nitrogen, they could take either so just get yourself a set of transfers (also available from Hattons) and put whatever you want onto the wagons. Oxygen for the steel industry, nitrogen for the food industry. Hope that helps! Guy Edited November 23, 2020 by lyneux 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl BR Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, lyneux said: Hi Carl, is it for Alderford? Mid-late 80s then, right? If so, then a similar requirement to what I have for Oldshaw. Most of the yellow striped ones had gone by then so you are better off with red-striped. There were only two vehicles AFAIK with BOC gases, so better off with the BOC livery. By this point, GPS bogies seemed to dominate over the original Mk4s, so I'd go for those. Re: oxygen/nitrogen, they could take either so just get yourself a set of transfers (also available from Hattons) and put whatever you want onto the wagons. Oxygen for the steel industry, nitrogen for the food industry. Hope that helps! Guy Hi Guy, Yes this train is for Alderford Mid-late 80s but only once quite major changes have been completed to the layout. Unfortunately my order is already with DPD so a bit late to change it. What I have coming is 3 x Gases, 2 x Unbranded & 3 x BOC logo yellow strip. Hopefully a degree of weathering will help disguise this mish mash of liveries. Cheers for your input anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl BR Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Well out of my order of eight with Hatton's my package landed today with just three and no stock left in the warehouse. Apparently the problem was their computer system thinking there was more than what was really in stock. I'm going to have to research what I can do with just the three I have received. I'm open to ideas in the form of photo's with these tankers thrown in to other wagon rakes. Cheers people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 39 minutes ago, Carl BR said: Well out of my order of eight with Hatton's my package landed today with just three and no stock left in the warehouse. Apparently the problem was their computer system thinking there was more than what was really in stock. I'm going to have to research what I can do with just the three I have received. I'm open to ideas in the form of photo's with these tankers thrown in to other wagon rakes. Cheers people. Here, you go. You can even sell one of them. Warrington Arpley 1990 This one is so old that the line doesn't even exist anymore... Lymm 1983 Longhedge Junction 1980s 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Banbury 1993 Warrington Arpley 1989 Arpley 1990 Alexandra Dock Junction 1992 Taplow 1989 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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