delticfan Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Any rumours as to when the 50 will be on sale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj_crisp Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Paint job is great from what i can see... it's an interesting livery as it helps see how things line up and I'm sure some good old NSE will be better to judge this loco. Looking forward to seeing a head on view though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HullCityB17 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 23 hours ago, D9016 said: Something not quite right with either the yellow band or the bodyside depth. If you count the number of grilles of the engine room by Cab A of the prototype. The yellow stripe lines up correctly with the model which Brian Daniels has done. As for the position of the nameplate Brian will defiantly positioned this correctly. If you reduce the height of the stripe then it will not align correctly with the bottom of the cab windows and doors given unless you want unproptionate Hoover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ressaldar Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 perhaps it is the height/depth size of the engine room windows that is wrong on the model? regards Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HullCityB17 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 30 minutes ago, Ressaldar said: perhaps it is the height/depth size of the engine room windows that is wrong on the model? regards Mike Maybe. Or is the rubber seal around the window slightly thicker on the prototype? In which case this surely can be easily remedied. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airport2010 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 14 hours ago, Ressaldar said: perhaps it is the height/depth size of the engine room windows that is wrong on the model? regards Mike I just think English Electric failed to build the locos to Heljan’s exacting standards. Simple really. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 17 hours ago, HullCityB17 said: As for the position of the nameplate Brian will defiantly positioned this correctly. This isn't 50049 though 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ba14eagle Posted February 27, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2019 The model looks great - its a shame I want an unrefurbished one! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 I was concerned about the shape of the front windows; the bottom on Hornby & Lima's OO gauge ones have been level which is not quite right. I took a close look at this one at Glasgow. The photos do not show it very well but the bottom of the windows angle slightly down towards the outside of the windows. For me, this was a deciding factor: If they got it right, I would buy one. Looks like I will have to find £600 now 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gary H Posted March 9, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2019 On 27/02/2019 at 11:52, Pete the Elaner said: I was concerned about the shape of the front windows; the bottom on Hornby & Lima's OO gauge ones have been level which is not quite right. I took a close look at this one at Glasgow. The photos do not show it very well but the bottom of the windows angle slightly down towards the outside of the windows. For me, this was a deciding factor: If they got it right, I would buy one. Looks like I will have to find £600 now Here's a good example of that head-on view and the angles that Lima and Hornby didn't bother with. Measuring the real thing, its about 5 degrees. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted March 10, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 10, 2019 8 hours ago, Gary H said: Here's a good example of that head-on view Cracking photo. Interesting that the one on the right, which is less head on, looks a little bit more droopy. I think the rake back of the windows adds to the effect. Also of note, the left one has a plated headcode but no headlight yet. Is that refurbed and lights were fitted slightly later, or pre-refurb but the panels were plated first? I doubt its a deal breaker for most but I don’t think the revised model has quite captured the character as well as, say, the latest 25. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 (edited) On 10/03/2019 at 07:41, Hal Nail said: Also of note, the left one has a plated headcode but no headlight yet. Is that refurbed and lights were fitted slightly later, or pre-refurb but the panels were plated first? It is not refurbished yet. 6 and 17 had plates fitted to their fronts before the headlights became available but quite a few had the headcode boxes plated over before they were refurbished. 3 and 35 were the first done in 1976 with DMU style light fittings in the headcode boxes, 50007 had no. 1 end also done in a similar way in 1978. Between 1979 and 1980 the following were done in the style above prior to be refurbished: 5, 10, 11, 14, 20, 24, 27, 30, 46 and 49. That's all I can find for the time being , I don't think I've missed any. Edited March 24, 2019 by Flood 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueeighties Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Here we go guys, Heljan 0 gauge class 50 deco samples. Please note...THESE ARE SAMPLES NOT FINAL PRODUCTION VERSIONS, let's not get our knickers in a twist over small deco errors that will be corrected :-) 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted June 4, 2019 Author Share Posted June 4, 2019 Heljan today have shared images of the painted samples of their upcoming Class 50s. They do indeed look splendid. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delticfan Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 I love the GEC logo on the multiple working gear...nice touch. I’m a bit unsure about the front end but it’s not enough to stop me buying. Large logo for me. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 2 hours ago, delticfan said: I’m a bit unsure about the front end but it’s not enough to stop me buying. Large logo for me. I was unsure with previous pre-production models, particularly the bottom of the windows being flat like on Hornby & Lima models. Getting this correct was a deal-breaker for me. The later demo models look a lot better, so I now expect to buy one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted June 5, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 5, 2019 There is scope for after market glazing here which would help - it looks significantly better on the angles where the glazing is not reflecting. Thats often the case of course but is more noticeable where locos have large windows such as the (proper) warships and these. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 If the production models come mounted on wood bases like these, then there’s more chance they will survive the postal system rather than MDF ones. My peak ripped itself free because the MDF is nowhere near as strong 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted June 7, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 7, 2019 3 hours ago, 47606odin said: If the production models come mounted on wood bases like these, then there’s more chance they will survive the postal system rather than MDF ones. My peak ripped itself free because the MDF is nowhere near as strong Looking at this closeup, they will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gary H Posted June 7, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 7, 2019 (edited) There's a nice curve to the nose/front of the cab evident on the close up of 007 where others have been incorrectly flat and so spoiling the cab. I would have liked to have seen that angle that the windscreens slope down at each side just a smidge more but Heljan have done a good job here where everyone else has so far failed. I will certainly be having one of these now! One minor criticism which could easily be rectified, even made by the modeller, is the missing coupling guard which is attached to the bottom of the bufferbeam . A simple moulded 'plug-in' part perhaps. https://www.flickr.com/photos/10651736@N02/6084675595/in/faves-93867311@N07/ Edited June 7, 2019 by Gary H Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 20 hours ago, Hilux5972 said: Looking at this closeup, they will. I saw that in the photos which is why I hope it is the same for the production bases. MDF May be cheaper, but it rips apart and then locos get returned damaged. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted June 9, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 9, 2019 On 09/03/2019 at 22:28, Gary H said: Here's a good example of that head-on view and the angles that Lima and Hornby didn't bother with. Measuring the real thing, its about 5 degrees. On 10/03/2019 at 15:54, Flood said: It is not refurbished yet. 6 and 17 had plates fitted to their fronts before the headlights became available but quite a few had the headcode boxes plated over before they were refurbished. 3 and 35 were the first done in 1976 with DMU style light fittings in the headcode boxes, 50007 had no. 1 end also done in a similar way in 1978. Between 1979 and 1980 the following were done in the style above prior to be refurbished: 5, 10, 11, 14, 20, 24, 27, 30, 46 and 49. That's all I can find for the time being , I don't think I've missed any. The weathering on the plated headcode reminds me of 50014. The other is 50002. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEARJAMMER Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 On 05/06/2019 at 05:27, delticfan said: I love the GEC logo on the multiple working gear...nice touch. I’m a bit unsure about the front end but it’s not enough to stop me buying. Large logo for me. Nice touch maybe.... but ive never seen it on the real thing, im unsure why its even there. I think they look good, I do hope they realise the yellow panel on the revised NSE where it wraps around the sides is all wrong. For me, the best one of the lot has to be the original NSE, that looks spot on to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Temeraire Posted June 17, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 17, 2019 15 hours ago, GEARJAMMER said: Nice touch maybe.... but ive never seen it on the real thing, im unsure why its even there. It is there Steve just not picked out in white. 15 hours ago, GEARJAMMER said: I think they look good, I do hope they realise the yellow panel on the revised NSE where it wraps around the sides is all wrong. Blimey I hadn't noticed that! They seem to have put a curve on the sides rather than the triangle, and the 'bonnet' top is all wrong too the yellow goes up under the handrails. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 On 17/06/2019 at 11:14, Temeraire said: It is there Steve just not picked out in white. Blimey I hadn't noticed that! They seem to have put a curve on the sides rather than the triangle, and the 'bonnet' top is all wrong too the yellow goes up under the handrails. They do know, I have spoken with Ben about it. cheers Shane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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