RMweb Premium Temeraire Posted January 6, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 6, 2020 4 hours ago, admiles said: Not sure whether to chance Heljan doing a future release with the lighter blue or go buy now and go down the repaint route. that’s exactly where I am atm! £600 and I need to paint it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 0Z50 has arrived Payslip Paul just checking it’s his for the afternoon Heljans new shipping boards prove wood is better than MDF. Travelled half way around the world and no damage. This is the first loco I have received with no Damage. Well done Ben for listening and ditching MDF 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Loco prep Fresh from the paint shop. Ready to take to Home Depot 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valleysniper Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Been spending couple hours T cutting the Blue paintwork, got nice shine to it now, hope this shows in picture. Plan is for it to be 50 035 Ark Royal. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Cuttle Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 On 06/01/2020 at 15:22, Temeraire said: Not according to the Heljan rep I spoke to at Warley there were none! A lot were scrapped in that shade/livery. I want one in that shade of blue but revised ends so I guess a respray of the blue is the only way atm. You need to remember that these shades of blue faded quickly, looking at both 017 and 030 on Youtube Class 50 "Thrash" they both look the same! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel_H Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 On 26/12/2019 at 23:35, uk_pm said: Here's a picture of the chassis laden with highly effective speakers. The result, when mixed with Legomanbiffo's class 50 recordings, is glorious. PM Fab! Any chance of a video demonstration? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiles Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 On 13/01/2020 at 13:23, Captain Cuttle said: You need to remember that these shades of blue faded quickly, looking at both 017 and 030 on Youtube Class 50 "Thrash" they both look the same! But as we all know there were two distinct shades of blue used on "revised NSE" livery... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43179 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) Photos are extremely misleading as to the shades of blue on revised locos. West of England branding = dark blue , BR Arrows = light blue , simples. Jon Edited January 15, 2020 by 43179 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, 43179 said: Photos are extremely misleading as to the shades of blue on revised locos. West of England branding = dark blue , BR Arrows = light blue , simples. Jon There's always an exception isn't there! 50023 in dark Network with larger than usual BR sign, March 1990 To be fair, it was a Thames Line based loco when it was repainted dark blue and the BR sign was painted out pretty quickly when transferred to West of England. 50023 Salisbury July 1990 I'm pretty sure that no. 23 is the only one to be like this and the over exposed second photo certainly doesn't help livery recognition. Edited January 15, 2020 by Flood Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Temeraire Posted January 15, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 15, 2020 3 hours ago, admiles said: But as we all know there were two distinct shades of blue used on "revised NSE" livery... but not according to Heljan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiles Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 16 minutes ago, Temeraire said: but not according to Heljan. Obviously natch! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43179 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Flood said: There's always an exception isn't there! 50023 in dark Network with larger than usual BR sign, March 1990 To be fair, it was a Thames Line based loco when it was repainted dark blue and the BR sign was painted out pretty quickly when transferred to West of England. 50023 Salisbury July 1990 I'm pretty sure that no. 23 is the only one to be like this and the over exposed second photo certainly doesn't help livery recognition. A rogue! - unusual sized arrows on it as well- they looks huge, plus of course no white cantrail stripe on the cabs . I think there was possibly 2 other oddballs like 023 in the dark blue. ‘Howe’ also had some rather fetching black windscreens when it was in original NSE - which I’m sure would look look rather nice on the Heljan model. jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43179 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Temeraire said: but not according to Heljan. ooer ... do they know that there's also more than one version of original NSE...? This excellent thread below overs pretty much everything. If Heljan ever wanted to make numbered NSE class 50s each with the correct livery variation , there's enough there to keep them going for a very long time! Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Cuttle Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 On 15/01/2020 at 12:41, admiles said: But as we all know there were two distinct shades of blue used on "revised NSE" livery... Yes it is difficult i agree! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel_H Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) Has anyone had the courage to make any modifications/improvements to their 50 yet? Specifically, what about fitting etched snowploughs? I presume that PH Designs' Class 37 snowplough *should* fit (never presume anything), but may need some modification? http://www.phd-design-etchings.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=25_35_67&product_id=237 Edited January 17, 2020 by Mel_H Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiles Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 On 17/01/2020 at 16:30, Mel_H said: Has anyone had the courage to make any modifications/improvements to their 50 yet? Specifically, what about fitting etched snowploughs? I presume that PH Designs' Class 37 snowplough *should* fit (never presume anything), but may need some modification? http://www.phd-design-etchings.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=25_35_67&product_id=237 Not yet but I'm pondering the best way to paint the bufferbeam. Very busy there with lots of pipework. Don't know how much is removable and I'm not keen to break bits trying. Can't see a way to mask everything either though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodge605 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 I recently purchased Fox etched plates for Defiance,and it seems the printed Heljan plate is either too big or the Fox nameplate is too small, does anyone know if Defiance plates were different size when repainted to R/freight livery Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, dodge605 said: I recently purchased Fox etched plates for Defiance,and it seems the printed Heljan plate is either too big or the Fox nameplate is too small, does anyone know if Defiance plates were different size when repainted to R/freight livery Thanks I would have expected the same plates to have been re-fitted after repaint. This is a bit frustrating because I have the same model & wanted to fit etched plates. Didn't 50149 also have some extra fittings which are missing from the Heljan model? (it is packed away right now). I have had the same in OO with either Lima or Hornby's printed plates being larger than after-market etched ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodge605 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, Pete the Elaner said: I would have expected the same plates to have been re-fitted after repaint. This is a bit frustrating because I have the same model & wanted to fit etched plates. Didn't 50149 also have some extra fittings which are missing from the Heljan model? (it is packed away right now). I have had the same in OO with either Lima or Hornby's printed plates being larger than after-market etched ones. The Fox plates only come with one crest even though there are two on model and 2 on real loco, would be a bit worried trying to remove printed ones without damaging paint, will leave it for now 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, dodge605 said: The Fox plates only come with one crest even though there are two on model and 2 on real loco, would be a bit worried trying to remove printed ones without damaging paint, will leave it for now I can understand that. It is an expensive model to make a mess of. Mine will be going S7 when I have the courage to start messing with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duff man Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Gents, Has anyone managed to remove the body, I need to fit a chip but as yet carn't get beyond the HT cables. The instruction sheet clearly says remove them before body removal however they are rock solid at every mounting point. Any advise most welcome. Craig. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdseyecircus Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 3 hours ago, duff man said: Gents, Has anyone managed to remove the body, I need to fit a chip but as yet carn't get beyond the HT cables. The instruction sheet clearly says remove them before body removal however they are rock solid at every mounting point. Any advise most welcome. Craig. On mine I managed to pull the cable out from the buffer beam socket. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duff man Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 On 21/01/2020 at 21:16, birdseyecircus said: On mine I managed to pull the cable out from the buffer beam socket. Paul Hi Paul. Many thanks for your response, could I ask you to clarify, do you mean you pulled the cable downward from the mounting under the buffer beam or did you pull outward from the mounting above the buffer beam on the cab front? Thank you Craig. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdseyecircus Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 23 minutes ago, duff man said: Hi Paul. Many thanks for your response, could I ask you to clarify, do you mean you pulled the cable downward from the mounting under the buffer beam or did you pull outward from the mounting above the buffer beam on the cab front? Thank you Craig. I tried to pull the socket out from the cab but it was well stuck and I did not want to force it. Looking at the other end of the cable at the buffer beam I gently pull the cable towards me. This left the socket still attached to the buffer beam but allowed the body to be removed. I may have been lucky as the factory may not have glued it well. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duff man Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Paul. Thanks for clarification. Craig Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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