Hal Nail 2,651 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, blueeighties said: Ok, controversial post time. 'Dons tin hat and ducks for cover'. The Heljan 0 gauge class 50. I will freely admit, I have a very good working relationship with Heljan, so may be slightly biased. But I'm being honest here. I have just spent a good couple of hours masking a couple of locos cab ends off ready for respraying. It's always nice getting a shell down to bare plastic.....it's interesting to see how over the years design and mouldings have improved. The thing that struck me here is the complications of the windscreen area....I have never seen as many angles, curves, and layers....they have been an absolute nightmare to mask properly. Just makes me wonder if all of the folk who are only too happy to moan at the first published picture of a new model have actually inspected the thing up close, and stood next to the real thing to properly compare. And over to you....... Ok i'll bite, If people hadn't been only too happy to moan would they have gone to the trouble and expense of redesigning the tooling?! I know what you mean tho - for example the problems a number of manufacturers have had in all scales doing a decent 47 tends to suggest its not easy. Then again neither is brain surgery but you still expect anyone having a crack to be reasonably good at it! ps why are you respraying them? Edited March 13, 2020 by Hal Nail 2 Link to post Share on other sites
deltic17 274 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) Yes that's right - this is the redesigned front which went into production. If us modellers hadn't spoken up it wouldn't have been so good and on this occasion thankfully Heljan listened (which hasn't always been the case in the past). A lot have had to be resprayed by modellers as they didn't make enough of the large logo livery. Edited March 13, 2020 by deltic17 Link to post Share on other sites
Gary H 836 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 (edited) Where can I get Class 50 0 gauge nameplates from guys? Brian/Shawplan seem impossible to get hold of (email or phone) - plus, don't fancy a trip halfway across the country to an exibition for a tenners worth of nameplates if I'm honest and that'll be in 2021 anyway! Fox seem to be out of stock on 90% of them. Edited March 30, 2020 by Gary H Link to post Share on other sites
brian daniels 7,572 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Vincento on ebay https://www.ebay.co.uk/b/British-Rail-Diesel-Locomotive-Standard-O-Gauge-Model-Railway-Locomotives/122591/bn_7026299553 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Gary H 836 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 13 hours ago, brian daniels said: Vincento on ebay https://www.ebay.co.uk/b/British-Rail-Diesel-Locomotive-Standard-O-Gauge-Model-Railway-Locomotives/122591/bn_7026299553 Thanks Brian, Ive now sent him a message! I did notice he had some for 009 a few weeks ago, should have bought them then but kept putting it off. Probably more chance there than anywhere else at the moment, so fingers crossed. Link to post Share on other sites
Hilux5972 2,674 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 (edited) Fox Transfers do a great job with their plates. They seem o restock regularly so keep checking their site. Edited April 1, 2020 by Hilux5972 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Roadrails 45 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Sadly, when splashong such cash one would like it in the right livery. Not sure why they made so many in less large logo liveries- I just refuse to pay and respray. Perhaps a 2nd batch LL Blue sometime? Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernMafia 1,556 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Excellent news: O Gauge Class 50 Batch 2 – General Release Models #4020 BR blue (refurbished) #4021 BR Large Logo Blue (grey roof) #4029 BR Large Logo Blue (black roof) #4030 BR Large Logo Blue 50036 Victorious WEATHERED #4032 Revised Network SouthEast light blue #4033 Departmental blue 50019 Ramillies WEATHERED 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Pete the Elaner 4,289 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 On 01/04/2020 at 08:15, Hilux5972 said: Fox Transfers do a great job with their plates. They seem o restock regularly so keep checking their site. They do such a large selection that suspect they make to order. A collection of artwork on hard disk(s) somewhere is a lot cheaper than holding huge amounts of stock. I have not seen them at an exhibition for some time so I assume they simply don't do them any more. Their mail order way of working is much better suited to a 'make to order' process. Link to post Share on other sites
Pete the Elaner 4,289 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, SouthernMafia said: Excellent news: O Gauge Class 50 Batch 2 – General Release Models #4020 BR blue (refurbished) #4021 BR Large Logo Blue (grey roof) #4029 BR Large Logo Blue (black roof) #4030 BR Large Logo Blue 50036 Victorious WEATHERED #4032 Revised Network SouthEast light blue #4033 Departmental blue 50019 Ramillies WEATHERED I am particularly pleased about those. LL seemed to sell out quite quickly. I believe NSE revised light blue was technically non-standard but it was applied to quite a lot of the class & seems to have been ignored or skipped by RTR manufacturers until now. Link to post Share on other sites
KMS Railtech 159 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, SouthernMafia said: Excellent news: O Gauge Class 50 Batch 2 – General Release Models #4020 BR blue (refurbished) #4021 BR Large Logo Blue (grey roof) #4029 BR Large Logo Blue (black roof) #4030 BR Large Logo Blue 50036 Victorious WEATHERED #4032 Revised Network SouthEast light blue #4033 Departmental blue 50019 Ramillies WEATHERED Don’t forget: #4028 GBRF ‘Defiance’ #4031 GBRF ‘Hercules’ Exclusive from KMS Railtech Edited July 3, 2020 by KMS Railtech Add Images 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Hilux5972 2,674 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 On 03/07/2020 at 23:41, Pete the Elaner said: I am particularly pleased about those. LL seemed to sell out quite quickly. I believe NSE revised light blue was technically non-standard but it was applied to quite a lot of the class & seems to have been ignored or skipped by RTR manufacturers until now. Not sure if you’re meaning O gauge rtr manufacturers or all scales, but Hornby definitely did 50027 Lion in Revised light Blue. Link to post Share on other sites
Flood 2,642 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 On 03/07/2020 at 12:41, Pete the Elaner said: I believe NSE revised light blue was technically non-standard but it was applied to quite a lot of the class & seems to have been ignored or skipped by RTR manufacturers until now. I don't know why you believe that NSE revised light blue was non-standard. Every NSE repaint from August 1987 (50050) until August 1989 (50045, first dark blue) was revised NSE light blue. Until the wear of the original colour was deemed unsatisfactory the use of a darker blue hadn't even been contemplated. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites
47606odin 3,045 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Well.... What Heljan said.... what the ESU connections are using the NRMA colours Note the common positive for the lights is blue, and the colours go yo the aux outputs as you switch the -ve on and off to complete the circuits. Heljan however have used the coloured wire for the +ve and the blue wire for the -ve. took me 2 days to work out they are backwards and diodes don’t work backwards Link to post Share on other sites
47606odin 3,045 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Part 1 of the install 1 Link to post Share on other sites
47606odin 3,045 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Part 2 including the errors 1 Link to post Share on other sites
admiles 486 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 On 24/08/2020 at 02:09, 47606odin said: Well.... What Heljan said.... what the ESU connections are using the NRMA colours Note the common positive for the lights is blue, and the colours go yo the aux outputs as you switch the -ve on and off to complete the circuits. Heljan however have used the coloured wire for the +ve and the blue wire for the -ve. took me 2 days to work out they are backwards and diodes don’t work backwards I guess on the plus side you didn't fry anything vital! Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew liszka 58 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Thought long and hard about buying something o gauge and as i love the 50s I jumped in with this beautiful model Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew liszka 58 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Started with this first but had to go back because of a few niggles. Link to post Share on other sites
47606odin 3,045 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) scrub up really well. Nearly finished end of life 032 finished Edited February 18 by 47606odin 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MGR Hooper! 3,403 Posted February 15 Author Share Posted February 15 51 minutes ago, Hilux5972 said: Well done Heljan! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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