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4 hours ago, blueeighties said:

Ok, controversial post time. 'Dons tin hat and ducks for cover'. The Heljan 0 gauge class 50. I will freely admit, I have a very good working relationship with Heljan, so may be slightly biased. But I'm being honest here. I have just spent a good couple of hours masking a couple of locos cab ends off ready for respraying. It's always nice getting a shell down to bare plastic.....it's interesting to see how over the years design and mouldings have improved. The thing that struck me here is the complications of the windscreen area....I have never seen as many angles, curves, and layers....they have been an absolute nightmare to mask properly. Just makes me wonder if all of the folk who are only too happy to moan at the first published picture of a new model have actually inspected the thing up close, and stood next to the real thing to properly compare. And over to you.......

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Ok i'll bite, :)

 

If people hadn't been only too happy to moan would they have gone to the trouble and expense of redesigning the tooling?!

 

I know what you mean tho - for example the problems a number of manufacturers have had in all scales doing a decent 47 tends to suggest its not easy. Then again neither is brain surgery but you still expect anyone having a crack to be reasonably good at it!

 

ps why are you respraying them?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Yes that's right - this is the redesigned front which went into production. If us modellers hadn't spoken up it wouldn't have been so good and on this occasion thankfully Heljan listened (which hasn't always been the case in the past).

 

A lot have had to be resprayed by modellers as they didn't make enough of the large logo livery. 

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Where can I get  Class 50  0 gauge nameplates from guys?

Brian/Shawplan seem impossible to get hold of (email or phone) - plus, don't fancy a trip halfway across the country to an exibition for a tenners worth of nameplates if I'm honest and that'll be in 2021 anyway!

Fox seem to be out of stock on 90% of them.

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13 hours ago, brian daniels said:

Thanks Brian, Ive now sent him a message!

I did notice he had some for 009 a few weeks ago, should have bought them then but kept putting it off.

Probably more chance there than anywhere else at the moment, so fingers crossed.

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Excellent news:

 

O Gauge Class 50 Batch 2 – General Release Models
#4020 BR blue (refurbished)
#4021 BR Large Logo Blue (grey roof)
#4029 BR Large Logo Blue (black roof) 
#4030 BR Large Logo Blue 50036 Victorious WEATHERED
#4032 Revised Network SouthEast light blue
#4033 Departmental blue 50019 Ramillies WEATHERED

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On 01/04/2020 at 08:15, Hilux5972 said:

Fox Transfers do a great job with their plates. They seem o restock regularly so keep checking their site. 

 

They do such a large selection that suspect they make to order. A collection of artwork on hard disk(s) somewhere is a lot cheaper than holding huge amounts of stock.

I have not seen them at an exhibition for some time so I assume they simply don't do them any more. Their mail order way of working is much better suited to a 'make to order' process.

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13 minutes ago, SouthernMafia said:

Excellent news:

 

O Gauge Class 50 Batch 2 – General Release Models
#4020 BR blue (refurbished)
#4021 BR Large Logo Blue (grey roof)
#4029 BR Large Logo Blue (black roof) 
#4030 BR Large Logo Blue 50036 Victorious WEATHERED
#4032 Revised Network SouthEast light blue
#4033 Departmental blue 50019 Ramillies WEATHERED

 

I am particularly pleased about those.

LL seemed to sell out quite quickly. I believe NSE revised light blue was technically non-standard but it was applied to quite a lot of the class & seems to have been ignored or skipped by RTR manufacturers until now.

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3 hours ago, SouthernMafia said:

Excellent news:

 

O Gauge Class 50 Batch 2 – General Release Models
#4020 BR blue (refurbished)
#4021 BR Large Logo Blue (grey roof)
#4029 BR Large Logo Blue (black roof) 
#4030 BR Large Logo Blue 50036 Victorious WEATHERED
#4032 Revised Network SouthEast light blue
#4033 Departmental blue 50019 Ramillies WEATHERED

Don’t forget:


#4028 GBRF ‘Defiance’

#4031 GBRF ‘Hercules’ 

 

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On 03/07/2020 at 23:41, Pete the Elaner said:

 

I am particularly pleased about those.

LL seemed to sell out quite quickly. I believe NSE revised light blue was technically non-standard but it was applied to quite a lot of the class & seems to have been ignored or skipped by RTR manufacturers until now.

Not sure if you’re meaning O gauge rtr manufacturers or all scales, but Hornby definitely did 50027 Lion in Revised light Blue. 

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On 03/07/2020 at 12:41, Pete the Elaner said:

 

I believe NSE revised light blue was technically non-standard but it was applied to quite a lot of the class & seems to have been ignored or skipped by RTR manufacturers until now.

I don't know why you believe that NSE revised light blue was non-standard. Every NSE repaint from August 1987 (50050) until August 1989 (50045, first dark blue)  was revised NSE light blue. Until the wear of the original colour was deemed unsatisfactory the use of a darker blue hadn't even been contemplated.

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Well.... What Heljan said....

 

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what the ESU connections are using the NRMA colours

 

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Note the common positive for the lights is blue, and the colours go yo the aux outputs as you switch the -ve on and off to complete the circuits.

 

Heljan however have used the coloured wire for the +ve and the blue wire for the -ve.

 

took me 2 days to work out they are backwards and diodes don’t work backwards

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On 24/08/2020 at 02:09, 47606odin said:

Well.... What Heljan said....

 

85B9B74A-3FF1-4BD0-A1A9-26F6B3F0EC8A.jpeg.699a9c4d732e012c99997352e1561894.jpeg
 

what the ESU connections are using the NRMA colours

 

12015200-FD9C-4C73-AD73-AF5E00430141.jpeg.a3dba482a3e04040510a1ff9a3fbc4fe.jpeg

 

Note the common positive for the lights is blue, and the colours go yo the aux outputs as you switch the -ve on and off to complete the circuits.

 

Heljan however have used the coloured wire for the +ve and the blue wire for the -ve.

 

took me 2 days to work out they are backwards and diodes don’t work backwards

 

I guess on the plus side you didn't fry anything vital!

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