MartinF Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Saw this wagon (grounded) at Glenfinnan station recently - anyone know what it is ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 BR 12t standard ventilated van to Diagram 1/213? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 In the second photo, the builders plate appears visible on the solebar. If the plate is still affixed, and you could have noted what was written thereon, we may have been able to positively identify the van. . Brian R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Cat Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 The roof isn't original though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Cat Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Was it a beer van, or is the brass tap on the side not original either? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Was it a beer van, or is the brass tap on the side not original either? That's the door catch. B786002 BTW. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/1486-grounded-vans/page-13&do=findComment&comment=2684327 Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted April 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 15, 2017 The roof isn't original though. You may be wronger than you might think!, not that I'm suggesting this is one of them, but there were some apex roof ventilated vans, haven't got access to my library to check though. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 You may be wronger than you might think!, not that I'm suggesting this is one of them, but there were some apex roof ventilated vans, haven't got access to my library to check though. Mike. There is certainly a van built to a similar diagram with a much taller apex at Southwold Harbour. I'll try to dig a photo out of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 The apex roof van was a Southern type rather than BR. One of Mr Bulleid's many experiments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBill Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 That's the door catch. B786002 BTW. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/1486-grounded-vans/page-13&do=findComment&comment=2684327 Jason If anyone cares, it was built as part of lot 3398 by Pressed Steel in 1961/2 to diagram 1/224, in what seems to be the very last batch of 'traditional' 12t vans. Diagram 224 (rather than 208 or 213) might have been allocated due to the improved Oleo buffers fitted from new? The present roof is most certainly not original! Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinF Posted April 16, 2017 Author Share Posted April 16, 2017 Many thanks for all your inputs. I did try to read the builders plate but it was too rusted to decipher. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
844fan Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 You may be wronger than you might think!, not that I'm suggesting this is one of them, but there were some apex roof ventilated vans, haven't got access to my library to check though. Mike. I honestly have always liked Vans with apex roofs. I have no clue why but I'd love to see some more examples that aren't just Salt Vans. Terrible shame that Trucks, Coaches and vans loose their wheels at times. But at least this one looks to keep her frames. Hmm that brings up a odd question. I would assume that this van was a 4 wheeled one with the common design most Trucks would use. If that is the case how hard is it to locate a donor pair (I say pair I mean two sets of wheels.) if one were to try to restore her? Are old sets still viable if in good condition or would it be best to just machine new ones? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londontram Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 I honestly have always liked Vans with apex roofs. I have no clue why but I'd love to see some more examples that aren't just Salt Vans. Terrible shame that Trucks, Coaches and vans loose their wheels at times. But at least this one looks to keep her frames. Hmm that brings up a odd question. I would assume that this van was a 4 wheeled one with the common design most Trucks would use. If that is the case how hard is it to locate a donor pair (I say pair I mean two sets of wheels.) if one were to try to restore her? Are old sets still viable if in good condition or would it be best to just machine new ones? Don't forget its not just wheels its W irons. axle boxes, springs and brake gear you would have to make so your best bet would be a less rare standard donor van made of wood, it would be worth checking round the preserved railways as they might have one with a rotten body that this could be grafted onto if it was rare enough to warrant it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidBird Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) It's looking a lot happier these days.... Photo taken May 2018 Edited July 11, 2019 by DavidBird Added date of photo 10 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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