RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted April 27, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) Larry, is your ash ballast, er, ash, or a commercial product please? edit - that managed to post 4 times, sorry! Edited April 27, 2017 by New Haven Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted April 27, 2017 Author Share Posted April 27, 2017 Larry, is your ash ballast, er, ash, or a commercial product please? edit - that managed to post 4 times, sorry! Always real ash courtesy PGH of this forum (Moving Coal layout thread). I did use Woodland Scenic's ash on one occasion, but thereafter I used real ash from industrial sites. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted April 27, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 27, 2017 Always real ash courtesy PGH of this forum (Moving Coal layout thread). I did use Woodland Scenic's ash on one occasion, but thereafter I used real ash from industrial sites. Thanks. I have a supply at hand as I'm a driver at Groudle Glen - when I'm fit again, anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted April 27, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 27, 2017 Just been looking at some of your photos of Carrog (the prototype). I think it's fortunate that on WR preserved lines we still have goods yards, like on 'my' railway Bewdley, Arley, Highley, in a way Bridgnorth and I guess Hampton Loade all retain their goods yards/sidings. Not however their goods sheds Last time I was in Bridgnorth, the goods shed was still there, but was being used as the engineering workshop. Arley and Highley may have only had a goods lockup, I would need to check my references to be sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted April 27, 2017 Author Share Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) The yard at Carrog holds materials and two coaches acting as bookshops. It would be neat if one track held the goods train that is currently stored at Glyndyfrdwy, as it would give waiting passengers something historical to look at .....And make the yard look active! In the final steam days, the yard was host to a GWR clerestory Camping Coach, so it is probable that freight went to Corwen. I won't be having a Camping Coach on 4mm Carrog. Instead it will be a working yard providing end loading facility, cattle, oil, coal, agricultural equipment and animal feed. Edited April 27, 2017 by coachmann 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 Old plywood was used to make the embankment side or batter. This was cut with a jigsaw with the base plate re positioned at an angle.... Screwed firmly into place as a base for vinyl ReadyGrass. Crumpled newspaper will be used to form the other side of the embankment due to limited space for a drill/screwdriver.... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted April 28, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) You could drill vertical holes in the main baseboard for the rear embankment, then attach the screws from underneath. But you've probably laid the grass by now... Edited April 28, 2017 by Stubby47 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 You could drill vertical holes in the main baseboard for the rear embankment, then attach the screws from underneath. Spot on Stubby. I found that drilling into the embankment had split the plywood near the door and put a hump in the track. It didn't occur to me until afterwards I should have drilled downwards into the baseboard. A short section of track will have to be relaid tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) ReadyGrass 'Spring Grass' vinyl mat was glued to the embankment and field with Evostik and then pressed down and formed using the Woodlands Scenics heatgun. None of it is new, as it was recovered from the Delph Branch layout a couple of years ago and, being pre-formed to suit a previous location, it was impossible to get it to lie flat even with the heatgun..... The space between the ballast and the grass was filled with ash glued down with neat PVA. It will look better tomorrow after it has been filed down to dust..... The real thing photographed this week.... Finally, who could forget these locos on the Carrog- Paris frog & chips special, known as the Up DeGaulle.... Edited April 28, 2017 by coachmann 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted April 28, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 28, 2017 Finally, who could forget these locos on the Carrog- Paris frog & chips special, known as the Up DeGaulle.... WEB Corwen land cruise.jpg Latterly re-named to the Up Yours, Delors? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddys-blues Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) Hi Larry this will look great when it's all finished, a nice 2 car x Bachmann 108 plodding along this line will look the dogs "I know where there are one or two going cheap .... pm me" you could stick a look a like of Mr Morgan "West Kirby Town" in the cab and run the layout as preserved Best regards Craig. Edited April 29, 2017 by muddys-blues 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) Eeeeeek ........... There'll be no Diesel Gala on my Carrog ....... Anyone spot the sanders in use on the Spamcan? It couldn't even haul itself in and out of the yard... Edited April 28, 2017 by coachmann 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post coachmann Posted April 29, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2017 (edited) The other side of the embankment was added this morning..... The distorted track due to my brute force & ignorance joinery was attended to as well. Am I the first to rip up Peco bullhead....? The old cork was removed down to base and the area cleaned up.... A layer of 1/16" cork was glued down and then shamfered down to nothing with a sander. Then a layer of 1/8" cork was glued on top followed by track and ballast... The care taken this time around has produced a neat camber to the track as it sweeps in from the garden..... Another test picture before the ballast was tidied up.... Finally a telephoto shot showing the effect of the reverse camber on the 'S' curve..... Edited April 29, 2017 by coachmann 21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 (edited) Hi Larry, NO your NOT the first to rip up Bull Head, mine went to the Dump, hahah. EDIT = To say, it's looking really nice now with that revers curve and camber. Edited April 29, 2017 by Andrew P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted April 29, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 29, 2017 it's looking really nice now with that revers curve and camber. The technical term translated into Cornish is a 'gert proper job'. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyram Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Just found this thread and very impressed. I visited Llangollen for the first time last summer and thoroughly enjoyed my visit. Carrog is a lovely station and I look forward to seeing this model develop. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted April 30, 2017 Author Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) All there was time for today was the making of the basic Up platform. I always cut them from plywood and then clad them in plastikard and cork. They can be screwed down from under the baseboard and one always has a level platform that can be drilled to take fittings and fencing.... A great deal of time was spent converting feet to millimeters from my diary of measurements. The platform takes five coaches while the real one takes six. This meant a boatload of juggling; Too short at one end would not leave enough room for buildings, so i compromised in the end. However, it means the sidings will have to be extended... Edited April 30, 2017 by coachmann 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post coachmann Posted May 1, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2017 After first taking a paper template off the track, the curve was then marked onto the plywood... The Up and down platform 'innards'. The cock-eyed ramps can be ignored, as they won't affect the external construction.... 25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merfyn Jones Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 After first taking a paper template off the track, the curve was then marked onto the plywood... WEB Carrog platform 3.jpg WEB Carrog platform 4.jpg The Up and down platform 'innards'. The cock-eyed ramps can be ignored, as they won't affect the external construction.... WEB Carrog platform 5.jpg WEB Carrog platform 6.jpg Looking good pal, I must come round for a chat before you rip this one up. I missed the O layout ! We are doing the club's Deganwy layout with Peco bullhead too. Have done the curve from Junction alongside the cottages so far and very pleased with it . Looking forward to the points. Merf. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted May 1, 2017 Author Share Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) Looking good pal, I must come round for a chat before you rip this one up. I missed the O layout ! We are doing the club's Deganwy layout with Peco bullhead too. Have done the curve from Junction alongside the cottages so far and very pleased with it . Looking forward to the points. Merf. Hi Merf, The 0 gauge version never got going apart from placing points and odd lengths of track on the old baseboards to work out the space required. Carrog in 00 started as a slow burn, but it has got me out of the house visiting the real location and the model has turned out to be a really absorbing choice. Edited May 1, 2017 by coachmann 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted May 1, 2017 Author Share Posted May 1, 2017 The two sidings have been extended beside the cattle and unloading platform to the end-loading platform. The coach is one of Hornby's latest in BR maroon... 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted May 4, 2017 Author Share Posted May 4, 2017 (edited) Up with the lark this morning sorting out the garden loop. I decided to use Peco Streamline Code 75 for external use this time seeing as the bit that was exposed to the elements last year looks no worse for wear than the Code 100. The first move was to link together eight yards of track in a rough curve around the boards. The code 75 was certainly easier to manipulate than the code 100 especially at rail joints..... Sleepers were then drilled and Peco track nails inserted...... The curve was then nailed down against a 3ft radius template. Job done..... I thought the waterproof entrance might be of interest.... And this is it with the tunnel slid into position. No rain got in last year but a loco once entered the shed with a web plastered across the smokebox and a spider on the Tender was bringing coal down.... Edited May 4, 2017 by coachmann 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Watch that it won't be stolen by metal thieves! No seriously, I remember for James May's first attempt at the longest model railway in the world track was stolen or damaged towards Bideford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted May 4, 2017 Author Share Posted May 4, 2017 (edited) Having ticked the outside loop box as done this morning, I was encouraged by the excellent weather to re-do the points leading to the platforms at Carrog. Readers may recall I backed off using the Peco USA Code 83 large radius points at the last minute. Anyway, they are now doing the job they were bought for, that of giving a smooth entry and exit at Carrog station. This is a general view of the completed re-lay..... The rails have not been painted on the 'blind' side... All the old cork was chiseled off and new cork glued down before it was given super-elevation with an electric sander. As before, the camber was maintained through the points to the down platform... ....As well as the points to the Up platform..... However, track to the yard does not have a camber....... A lot of materials arrived today including 20 feet of I D vinyl Backscenes, more ReadyGrass and Peco platform edging and ramps. Points are also in stock for the fiddle yard, so painting on a broad canvass will continue for some weeks to come before detail work starts. Edited May 4, 2017 by coachmann 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Looking excellent Larry, such a nice flow to the New Points as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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