RMweb Premium airnimal Posted February 16, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 16, 2021 Even though I have hopefully got these lamp brackets right I'm still struggling to produce 6 all the same. So I decided to look at something else that needs doing. The springs for the running gear i had in stock from my own castings but they need modifying to add extra straps and adjusting bolts on the ends. The first attempt at the extra straps has been successful. This is now where I fall down trying to reproduce the other 3 the same. 5 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post airnimal Posted February 16, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted February 16, 2021 I must have my eye in today. I have managed all 4 the same. Perhaps this is an omen. 10 10 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium airnimal Posted February 17, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 17, 2021 I have decided to add the spring tension spacers and bolts to the spring castings. Not the easiest job I've ever had and they look a bit undernourished but I don't have any of bigger Scalehardware bolts in stock. This did test my soldering skills to the limit. Was it worth it in the end ? 13 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted February 17, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 hours ago, airnimal said: Was it worth it in the end ? Only you can really answer that, but since you ask, I think so. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium airnimal Posted February 17, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 17, 2021 I have started on the handrails made from steel wire as I find it stronger than brass or nickel. I am drilling the holes for these only halfway through the framing rather than go all the way. This prevents the handrails being pushed through when the model is handled. A couple of Masterclub bolts at both ends help them look right. I can't quite make out how the handrails in the middle of the side of the body are fixed. The fixing at the ends are straightforward enough but in the middle the photograph is unclear. There is a bracket of some variety but how it holds the handrails may involve some guesswork. 7 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post airnimal Posted February 17, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2021 The handrails on the side have now been put on and the upright and the long side rail soldered together. I placed a thin piece of Tufnol underneath while I soldered them together so I didn't melt the plastic body with the heat from the iron. 13 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coal Tank Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Thats lovely Mike 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium airnimal Posted February 17, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 17, 2021 Just when I thought I everything was going well ........... Putting the long side handrails on something didn't look right. Go back to the book and study again. I followed the drawing with regarding the ironwork on the lower body side but this shows the ironwork reaching up to the second plank but the photograph clearly show that they only came up just over the first plank. I think the error is with mistaking the sloping part on top of the lower framing as another plank. I will have to remove all the lower body ironwork tomorrow and replace them with the right size. I think sometimes I look to hard and miss the obvious. Better to find out now rather than when its painted. It is only by building that things like this show up. I have marked with a pencil line where the ironwork should come up to. 5 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Star Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Looking at the photo of the prototype... how do the proportions of the angles on the lower body member appear when compared with the angles on the body member which is along the top of the diagonals? Does that assessment help you to decide on the size of the angles on the model? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post airnimal Posted February 18, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2021 Graham, there really only 2 photographs to work from along with the drawings in the NSR wagon book which I assume has been drawn from the works drawings which I dont have. The drawing of No 60 appears to have the top of framing drawn in full but the drawing of No 459 appears to have this drawn a lot thinner. Also the angle of the photograph makes judgment difficult. I can only do my best with the information I have to hand. I have replaced the ironwork on the lower body side and put back on the long handrails. I have added a couple of 4mm handrail knobs in the middle. I can't really see how the handrails were joined to the body but these will give greater strength when handling the model. They may not be quite right but I dont think I have much option. 15 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post airnimal Posted February 20, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted February 20, 2021 I am getting close to finishing this brake van now. I decided that I would have to make the effort to do these lamp brackets out of strip material . So I have folded 10 thou brass to the required shape with vast amounts of rejects. But finally I have got as close as I can to what I am after but it will not be my finest moment. 9 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post airnimal Posted February 20, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted February 20, 2021 (edited) Paint at last. This wasn't as straightforward as planned because after I had washed the van and let it dry with the help from a hairdryer, I put on first coat of paint only for water to seep out from under one of the frame panels. Strong words were spoken before rubbing it down and going over the blemishes. I also missed a couple of bolts off one of brackets which I managed to replace before giving it a quick blast over again. It has been a long job but providing I dont do something silly hopefully I can complete it. I am awaiting some more Birchwood Metal Black to do all the metal bits before i paint them black. But at least I can see some progress. Edited February 20, 2021 by airnimal 13 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted February 20, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 20, 2021 Superb! 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coal Tank Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Delightful, absolutely delightful John 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dave Hunt Posted February 20, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 20, 2021 I think I detect another tour de force coming on. Dave 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium airnimal Posted February 20, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 20, 2021 (edited) Thanks Chris, I am trying hard. I have started on all the rest with the roof having a tissue paper coating by applying one ply thin tissue brushed over with Limonene. This I will probably leave overnight to dry before turning it over and folding it back on its self. Here are all the rejects from the lamp brackets fiasco that nearly turned me into a stamp collector. Even my wife is on tenderhooks when I have been building this van. I still have to paint all the rest as well as cutting glass for the windows. There is still time for me to notice I have done something wrong. Pessimist or optimist, glass half full ? Well I am a Gemini. Edited February 20, 2021 by airnimal 10 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post airnimal Posted February 21, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2021 I have played around with the canvas roof and tried to reproduce a dirty work stained offering. I am not so sure if I have achieved the look I am after but I think it is better than a plain grey painted roof. I tried to smooth out all the wrinkles when the tissue was first applied but for some reason it wasn't going to adhere to what I wanted. I think it will be necessary to finish the van and weather the rest of the body and when its complete judge if I have got it right. 11 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Star Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 I like the appearance of your roof covering - including the wrinkles which can occur with leaded canvas over time. Looks like canvas bedded to wood with white lead so now you shall have the opportunity to "age" the look over time. regards, Graham 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post airnimal Posted February 21, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2021 Graham, thank you for your comments, it is appreciated. I have managed to get some paint on the underframe this morning before the rain came. There is still a lot to do. But at least it is on its wheels and getting closer to the finishing line. I have not trimmed the Slaters wheels as I usually do on open wagons because I don't think brake vans would be allowed to let there wheels wear down as much for safety reasons. 10 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signalman Rich Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Mike, Lovely crisp work that inspires me to do better. Thank you for your perseverance - the result is great. Best wishes Rich 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coal Tank Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Mike you see flaws we see perfection 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post airnimal Posted February 21, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2021 (edited) I have managed to find enough transfers to my brake van. I just have to fix all the lamp brackets and the axle boxes before I matt varnish it. Then it will will be toned down but not to dirty. The NSR letters are correct and not in the centre of the plank. That is how it is on the photograph. Edited February 21, 2021 by airnimal 14 1 6 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coal Tank Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Mike I have completely run out of words, to say Just how good this is John 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted February 21, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 21, 2021 22 hours ago, airnimal said: Pessimist or optimist, glass half full ? Well I am a Gemini. Not sure what you mean: as an Aquarian, I have no time for this astrology nonsense... (Nice break van, btw...) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm 0-6-0 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Excellent piece of modelling, as usual. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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