RMweb Premium airnimal Posted August 14, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 14, 2017 John, when I let Adrian Swain have the pattern for the Dia 32 van the deal was that he could have the pattern in exchange for castings from his range. Unfortunately I then had my big accident when I was run down by a car. This left me with no interest in railways or anything else for about 3 years. Since then I have not had contact with Adrain. I am not sure wether I still own the pattern or Adrain. I don't want to bother Adrain about this as I believe he has been very ill. But the pattern will be still be about probably with C.M.A at Birmingham. The buffer bodies are available I believe from J.P.L. I could have some more w-irons etched if necessary, and I am having the axle boxes and springs produced to go with my other L.N.W.R wagons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewe North Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Thanks for that ,I remember now from our conversation at Telford (?) a while back.The vans are fortunately not too difficult to scratchbuild ,I did some for Alexandra Yard back in the days when you could get a half decent axlebox casting from CCW.....trouble is I'm getting a bit lazy now ☺ John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium airnimal Posted August 15, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 15, 2017 John, these Dia 32 vans were very popular when I did a batch all those years ago. I still get asked at exhibitions when I am going to do more. One went for £80 on E bay last year. I don't really want to become a dealer. The kits I made in the past were just a way of getting a few wagons of the same type without scratch building the same wagon six times. Just painted the old leather buffers on this half dumb, half sprung LN.W.R. wagon. 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John lewsey Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 hi Mike a couple of your wagon kits that I did John 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Edwardian Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 image.jpeghi Mike a couple of your wagon kits that I did John Lovely tones on the floor planking. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium airnimal Posted August 16, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 16, 2017 John, you have done a brilliant job on your wagons. I must get around to doing one of my vans in the early two tone grey. I keep looking at the wagons on the Parliamentary Trains web site. Will have to see them at Telford in a couple of weeks time. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John lewsey Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) Hi Mike thank you I'm going to do two of the brake vans in that livery and yes the Parlimentry wagons do look good Edited August 16, 2017 by John lewsey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium airnimal Posted August 17, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) I know I should not start something else with so many thinks half finished but I have decided to make a pair of L.N.W.R Dia 13 dumb buffer wagons. The solebars were made by glueing various thickness of Evergreen strip together to make up the required thickness. They will be about 5 thou undersize. At one time this would have bothered me but now I can live with it. Does this means my standards are slipping or am I getting old. Edited August 17, 2017 by airnimal 7 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium airnimal Posted August 17, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 17, 2017 Just a little progress with the solebar spacing jig. This helps keep the solebars parallel and at the correct distance apart. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian@stenochs Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I know I should not start something else with so many thinks half finished but I have decided to make a pair of L.N.W.R Dia 13 dumb buffer wagons. The solebars were made by glueing various thickness of Evergreen strip together to make up the required thickness. They will be about 5 thou undersize. At one time this would have bothered me but now I can live with it. Does this means my standards are slipping or am I getting old. Once the plastic solebars get a coat of paint they will be nearer to exact size! Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium airnimal Posted August 17, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 17, 2017 Thank you Ian, Just put the iron plate on the solebars from 10 thou strip. It's 3/8 inch on the real wagon which works out at 2.87 thou. So even if I used 5 thou it would nearly double thickness, so I am making big compromises with this build. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John lewsey Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Looking good Mike maybe I should have a go at something like this I do like the older wagons John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Star Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Just put the iron plate on the solebars from 10 thou strip. It's 3/8 inch on the real wagon which works out at 2.87 thou.. Mike, I am not sure what scale you have used for this calculation... by my reckoning 0.375" prototype is just about 8 thou in 1:43.5 scale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 ........ So even if I used 5 thou it would nearly double thickness, so I am making big compromises with this build. Are you afraid of someone coming along with a micrometer and criticising you? Read my signature for my attitude to this sort of thing! Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium airnimal Posted August 17, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 17, 2017 Graham, you are right about the size. I was using the conversion chart published in the scaleseven news many years ago. I had mine cut out and lamented to use on my workbench and the writing has got a bit blurred over the years. Looking at a better copy I can see it comes out at 8.61 and not as 2. 87 as I first quoted. I feel a bit better for that. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Star Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I feel a bit better for that. Good. What is the significance of a yellow colour to one of the solebar layers? With so much inspiration in this topic... what are you going to bring to show at Telford? regards, Graham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium airnimal Posted August 17, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 17, 2017 Graham, on the works drawing the solebars have an extra piece of wood to make the dumb buffers but it appears to be a bit thicker than the solebars. So I used the same size as the solebars with a piece of 20 thou coloured plastic to make up this difference. Using coloured plastic makes it more easy to see and get the join flush. What would you like me to bring to Telford ? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Star Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 What would you like me to bring to Telford ? How about one from D1 to D6... and a D32... and one or two of your recent PO wagons. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium airnimal Posted August 18, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 18, 2017 A little more work done this morning. I was up early waiting for a parcel. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Star Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Just a little progress with the solebar spacing jig. And that is another of your ideas which I have used for my wagons, thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium airnimal Posted August 18, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 18, 2017 I am having a good morning. The joining timbers were made from a 250 X 250 thou piece of evergreen. I drill the central hole before squaring it off with a small needle file. It was then marked out and sanded to shape on a belt sanded, cleaning up with fine wet and dry paper before marking the position and glueing in place. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium airnimal Posted August 18, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 18, 2017 The other end with a simple jig for the spacing of the end timbers. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Star Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 The other end with a simple jig for the spacing of the end timbers. How do you stop the jig getting "welded" to the body / stanchions when in use? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium airnimal Posted August 18, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 18, 2017 Graham, you just wipe down the outside of the timber with a small amount of Mek-Pak and take the jig off more or yes straight away checking that it has not moved. Once dry the second side is put back and the second side glued on. Speed is the essence. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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