Railways of Spain PHOTOS

[Guest]

back to Tarragona 2009, some shots under the "knitting"

 

Again, great shots. On a purely selfish level, the details of the foot crossing in the last two photos is going to prove rather useful!

[long island jack]

"Photo's from the bar" a walk along Soller waterfront, with suitable refreshment stops, it was hot!!!!!!!! 2012

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ray

[Enterprisingwestern]

Why aren't you Long Island Ray?

 

Mike.

[long island jack]

Don't know, Jack just seemed to slip off the tongue better

 

Ray

Edited May 24, 2017 by long island jack

[Enterprisingwestern]

Don't know, Jack just seemed to slip of the tongue better

 

Ray

 

, or even off!!

 

Mike.

[long island jack]

Back to the museum at Vilanova, this time some of the diesels/electrics on show, it's was rather cramped, so you could't get a good 3/4 shot, don't know much about these other than the 1801 was an Alco.

 

 

Ray

[Enterprisingwestern]

Aaaargh, nooooo.

EE 7700/7800.

Must resist, must resist.

 

Mike.

[long island jack]

A few photos to keep you going over the weekend, 252's at Salou.

 

 

 

Ray

[Guest]

Aaaargh, nooooo.

EE 7700/7800.

Must resist, must resist.

 

As any Star Trek fan knows... resistance is futile. You're gonna be assimilated Mike, it's just a matter of time.

 

And thanks for the 252 shots Ray. I don't know why I like them (they're actually rather plain), I just do.

[McGomez]

Here are some of the the freight turns that originate in the Region of Murcia.

 

The "Butano" usually runs on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays from the port of Escombreras just east of Cartagena to Madrid (Getafe) and is usually double headed in the winter months with the 3300HP class 333s on the front and 19 bogie tanks. It usually departs the yard in Murcia around 17:05h just after the Altaria service to Madrid has passed.

09-08-12 Campo de Blanca by McGomez441, on Flickr

 

Here is a single loco in charge of 10 bogie tanks.

The 10 wagon train does run during the winter months as can be in this image from 2012?

12-03-09 Butanero Campo Ulea 333.354 by McGomez441, on Flickr

 

The return empties arrive in Murcia between 06.00 - 08.00h.

 

Another train that originates from the industrial complex at Escombreras is the Bioetanol train that runs to the refinery at Puertollano.

This view shows it when it was a RENFE contract.

12-06-21 333.347 Torres de Cotillas Bio Etanol by McGomez441, on Flickr

 

It was then taken over by the private operator, Continental Rail which used some older traction in the shape of the class 319. Two class 333s make a lot of noise going up the gradients but this loco easily beat them.

13-11-04 Continental Rail - Campotejar by McGomez441, on Flickr

It also used hired in bogie tanks from VTG.

12-09-24 Bioetanol Continental Rail 319.301 - Cieza Norte by McGomez441, on Flickr

 

I don´t know if this train still runs but it used to convey baby foods from a factory close to the yard in Murcia up to Barcelona. It used to run round at Albacete and continue via Valencia.

There was a backload of beer for Damm from Barcelona to Murcia.

13-04-30 Mercante Cieza by McGomez441, on Flickr

 

Back in 2012 there was a short lived contract to move scrap metal from Murcia to Barcelona.

12-07-27 Campotejar Chatarra 333 386  (5) by McGomez441, on Flickr

 

Back in the good ´ole days when they used to build houses and apartments a train of bogie hoppers conveyed clinker from Escombreras to a cement factory south of Madrid. I haven´t seen one of these run in 8 or 9 years.

This image shows a rake tagged on the back of the butane tanks but it usually ran as a 20 wagon rake.

08-07-29 Mercante mixto de butano y clincker - Detrás de la Base 2000 by McGomez441, on Flickr

 

A train that does still run is the "Frutero" that loads fruit and veg in reefers at Murcia yard and runs through the night to the port of Bilbao.

This has always been a Continental rail operated job.

The onward shipping is by ship to northern european ports but I couldn´t tell you where abouts exactly.

13-06-05 TECO CR en el Campo de Blanca by McGomez441, on Flickr

This usually runs with their own Euro 4000 locos (class 335) or ocasionally one of their 333s.

Primos hermanos 1 by McGomez441, on Flickr

[long island jack]

some excellent photo's McGomez

 

Ray

[long island jack]

Been doing some digging and found some photos at Malaga in 1997,(half an hour on the platform, SWMBO wasn't happy) we had a winter break there last year,how it has change, there's a new shopping centre now ,SWMBO said "you can stop as long as you like on the station" then you could walk all most anywhere, now you need a ticket before you can get on the platform, as you can see from the bottom picture, didn't do the end of the platform, as suggested!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

taken through the glass screen of the shopping centre

 

Ray

[McGomez]

Good pictures Ray.

I´m going to Malaga tomorrow with the wife for a long weekend.

I´ll stay away from the station if there is a shopping centre there now.

 

Although on second thoughts, the wife will probably be suspicious as to why I don´t want to go a see the railway station!! :senile:

[jamie92208]

Good pictures Ray.

I´m going to Malaga tomorrow with the wife for a long weekend.

I´ll stay away from the station if there is a shopping centre there now.

 

Although on second thoughts, the wife will probably be suspicious as to why I don´t want to go a see the railway station!! :senile:

Ray's point about needing a ticket to get on the platform is spot on.   I bought one for about 1.5 Euros to the first station out on the line that goes south along the coast.  However a return to Bobadilla is good value the scenery is spectacular and you can get a meal there and the train back and you pass the depots on the way out.

 

Jamie

[long island jack]

McGomez, if you like world beers check this place out, can't go wrong 8 keg beers and over 600 bottle beers

 

 

https://wego.here.com/directions/mix//Cervecer%C3%ADa-ArteSana-Craft-Beer-Caf%C3%A9,-Plaza-de-la-Merced-5,-29012-M%C3%A1laga:e-eyJuYW1lIjoiQ2VydmVjZXJcdTAwZWRhIEFydGUmU2FuYSBDcmFmdCBCZWVyIENhZlx1MDBlOSIsImFkZHJlc3MiOiJQbGF6YSBkZSBsYSBNZXJjZWQgNSwgTVx1MDBlMWxhZ2EsIFNwYWluIiwibGF0aXR1ZGUiOjM2LjcyMzMyNjg1NDcxMiwibG9uZ2l0dWRlIjotNC40MTc4NzAwMzA1MjEsInByb3ZpZGVyTmFtZSI6ImZhY2Vib29rIiwicHJvdmlkZXJJZCI6NjExNDM1Njk1NTYyNjE0fQ==?map=36.72333,-4.41787,15,normal&fb_locale=en_GB

 

 

Well, hic, worth a visit!!!!!  ,also there's a couple of good tapas restaurants on the other side of the square. 

 

 

Ray

[EddieB]

Aaaargh, nooooo.

EE 7700/7800.

Must resist, must resist.

 

Mike.

I also have a fondness for the big broad gauge electrics of those classes.  While the 7700 were British (English Electric - see the thread on British locos in Spain), the 7800 were built in Spain by Naval, but were financed with American aid and incorporated Westinghouse components.  The B-B-B arrangement of the 278 series was not a success and they were all withdrawn by 1992.

 

In 1988, the entire class of 29 locomotives was based at Alcazar de San Juan depot, where 278-022-9 is seen in the company of a classmate (and a class 303 sunter).

 

At that time,  the depot was both a centre of active operation and beginning to assemble a collection of museum locomotives.  The two illustrated remain at  Alcazar de San Juan to the present day.  

 

240F.2244 (Ex-MZA 4-8-0 MTM, 1921)

 

040.2082 (Ex-ZB/Norte 0-8-0 Avonside, 1865)

Edited June 14, 2017 by EddieB

[sparks]

Now I'm back in the northern hemisphere I've booked myself a holiday to Mallorca, which is somewhere I've wanted to go since Giles Barnabe's articles in the Continental Modeller back in the 1980s. This has prompted me to dig out the following photos which were taken for us kids by our retired neighbours when they visited Mallorca many years ago.

 

From memory of when we received them, I would have put these in the early to mid 1980s, but consulting with Giles Barnabe's book I find that the grey and yellow FEVE livery featured on trailer 5005 wasn't introduced until 1989. Given that that carriage shed seen here burnt down sometime in 1990, and also that our neighbours liked to take their holidays in September after the kids had gone to school, I reckon these were taken around September 1989.

 

Is anyone able to confirm or refute this please?

 

FC de Mallorca by Stuart, on Flickr

FC de Mallorca by Stuart, on Flickr

FC de Mallorca by Stuart, on Flickr

FC de Mallorca by Stuart, on Flickr

FC de Mallorca by Stuart, on Flickr

Edited July 16, 2017 by sparks

[McGomez]

McGomez, if you like world beers check this place out, can't go wrong 8 keg beers and over 600 bottle beers

 

DSCN2283.JPG

 

https://wego.here.com/directions/mix//Cervecer%C3%ADa-ArteSana-Craft-Beer-Caf%C3%A9,-Plaza-de-la-Merced-5,-29012-M%C3%A1laga:e-eyJuYW1lIjoiQ2VydmVjZXJcdTAwZWRhIEFydGUmU2FuYSBDcmFmdCBCZWVyIENhZlx1MDBlOSIsImFkZHJlc3MiOiJQbGF6YSBkZSBsYSBNZXJjZWQgNSwgTVx1MDBlMWxhZ2EsIFNwYWluIiwibGF0aXR1ZGUiOjM2LjcyMzMyNjg1NDcxMiwibG9uZ2l0dWRlIjotNC40MTc4NzAwMzA1MjEsInByb3ZpZGVyTmFtZSI6ImZhY2Vib29rIiwicHJvdmlkZXJJZCI6NjExNDM1Njk1NTYyNjE0fQ==?map=36.72333,-4.41787,15,normal&fb_locale=en_GB

 

DSCN2319.JPG

 

Well, hic, worth a visit!!!!!  ,also there's a couple of good tapas restaurants on the other side of the square. 

 

 

Ray

Thanks for the tip Ray.

We finally managed to find the place and have a couple of beers. Good place.

[McGomez]

I seem to have dissappeared off the radar once again but here is a video of a Spanish Alco in the infrastructure operators (ADIF) house colours of green and white heading light towards Zamora.

We had spent the night in the town of Toro which is moreorless half way between Murcia and where we were heading in Galicia and is also a well known wine producing region. Highly recommended food and wine. Prices were good too.

We dropped into the station knowing that the only passenger train of the morning had long departed but got lucky just as we were leaving and the level crossing barriers came down and this loco came into sight.

 

 

 

[Guest]

We had spent the night in the town of Toro...

 

That looks to be a wild and lonely place, Andy. Behind you, there is no doubt a town of 20000 people, but the station would appear to be in the middle of nowhere...

[McGomez]

That looks to be a wild and lonely place, Andy. Behind you, there is no doubt a town of 20000 people, but the station would appear to be in the middle of nowhere...

Only 9000 inhabitants.

In the following image, the station is located just behind the trees and a bit to the right and the town is perched on a platau about 3 km from the station

Toro10 [CC BY-SA 3.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0)], by Dirkvde (Own work), from Wikimedia Commons

 

The station only has 1 stopping train in each direction every day. It probably had a couple of Madrid - Galicia Talgo services stopping there before they went over to the high speed trains (AVE) on the newly built line that runs about 10 km from Toro.

[long island jack]

Just got back from a holiday in Madrid, lovely place, but taking photo's of trains was a bit harder than I thought, everything's underground in the city centre, any way here's a few at Chamartin station

 

 

Ray

[long island jack]

A few more, from the very disappointing railway museum in Madrid, not a patch on York, dark dismal place, everything was buffered up, not a single description in English (or any other language),but at least I can say I've been!!!!

 

 

 

Ray

[Guest]

A few more, from the very disappointing railway museum in Madrid...

 

Would you say it was still worth a visit if in the area, just perhaps not worth making a special trip? It's still on my "to do" list one day, but Vilanova is top of that list.

[long island jack]

if your in Madrid then go, to make a special trip, no, done both and to be honest, i wouldn't make a special trip for either, were spoilt here with York!