ndg910 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Am aware there is a general OO9 discussion on here but not anything specific on these coaches. Does anyone know any more on these. The only details I can find are the product ref of GR-440 for a L+B livered version and the photos look like a saloon brake end observation coach is being modelled. There is nothing on the Peco website other than a brief reference that plans are afoot! Are they doing them in SR livery and which version is being modelled - will it be a saloon brake end observation coach (Nos 1 or 2) or a Saloon end observation coach (Nos 3 or 4). Obvious L+B 2 (SR 6992) survives at York so that may be a clue. Thanks in advance if anyone knows anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) It has been discussed on the general thread. IIRC it was planned to be number 17 but was changed to the third centre observation carriages 7-10. No idea on liveries, but I would be surprised if there wasn't a L&B liveried model and a SR one. Edited April 27, 2017 by Paul.Uni Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Dadson Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) As a reply to a comment, on 18th May 2017 Peco confirmed on their Facebook webpage that the next L&BR R-T-R coaches to be released are the centre observation and all-third coaches, both are which were (at that date) currently in tooling. The “Third Centre Observation Coaches” are L&BR No's 7 - 10 inclusive / Southern Railway No's 2465 – 2468 inclusive; and the “All Third Coaches” are L&BR No’s 11 – 14 inclusive / Southern Railway No’s 2469 – 2472 inclusive. Thus there is scope for sixteen (16) new Peco L&BR R-T-R products to be released in future weeks, months, years, decades, or only God knows when? Chris Edited June 13, 2017 by Chris Dadson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swsjames Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 The Hattons pre-order website shows the 1st class end observation saloon, rather than the 3rd class centre observation coach. I'd much prefer the latter, unique and distinctive as it is. There is a preserved/reconstructed example (no 7) on the preserved 12" to 1' L&B. So I hope the rumoured change of plan is correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swsjames Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I see there is an advert for the observation coach ("new!") tucked obscurely at the back of the latest Railway Modeller, but I can't find anything on the Peco or Hattons websites. Does the ad mean they are actually going out to retailers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Thompson Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 In the November's edtion of the Railway Modeller the new Peco Lynton and Barnstaple carriages are the following, GR-440 7 compartment All 3rd in L&B Livery, GR-441 7 compartment All 3rd in SR Livery, GR-450 3rd class centre Observation in L&B Livery and GR-451 3rd class centre Observation in SR Livery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndg910 Posted November 26, 2017 Author Share Posted November 26, 2017 Could someone ask about these please and likely delivery after the teaser ad in RM in November. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzer models Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Could someone ask about these please and likely delivery after the teaser ad in RM in November. ThanksKernow Models are saying PECO announce two more 00-9 Coaches, due to arrive next week http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/c/1153/OO-9-Gauge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyKarl Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Could someone ask about these please and likely delivery after the teaser ad in RM in November. Thanks The observation coach is now out: just had an email to say that one is in the post to me from Derails No connection btw other than as a happy customer JK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndg910 Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 Great news. One will be winging its way over my way shortly. Am hoping the improved Heljan tanks are not too far behind but that’s a different thread!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted February 9, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9, 2018 This arrived this morning and very nice too 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 (edited) According to Kernow the B variant of the all third and central observation coaches are due soon. They are: GR-440B All Third Coach No.14 in L&B Livery GR-441B All Third Coach No.2471 in SR Livery GR-450B Central Observation Coach No.10 in L&B Livery GR-451B Central Observation Coach No.2468 in SR Livery RRP for each is £45 Edited April 9, 2019 by Paul.Uni Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndg910 Posted April 9, 2019 Author Share Posted April 9, 2019 Already in stock with some retailers. Mine arrived yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR Dave Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Pretty sure I saw somewhere, possibly the Peco stand at Warley or maybe one of the Toyfair reports in one of the magazines, that they do intend to produce the Lynton & Barnstaple brake end observation coach (No 17 ?) in oo9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 (edited) They did say that once, but then found out it was a different length to all the other 16 coaches. With the models they already do they wil be covering 12 out 17 of the total number of coaches on the line and have a Third, Brake Third and Composite that look very plausible in 'generic' liveries. Edited April 16, 2019 by BernardTPM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted May 4, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 4, 2019 (edited) The brake composite observation carriages Nos. 1 & 2 were (are) the same length as the carriages already modelled by Peco. What could be holding Peco back is that there were rather substantial differences between the carriage as built, with open observation sections, and as modified with the observation saloons glazed. The same goes for the composite observation saloons Nos. 3 & 4. On the other hand, Peco have been happy issuing their Southern-era models (with some toplights panelled over to carry the SOUTHERN RAILWAY inscription) in L&B livery. No. 17 was the odd carriage out, being a locally-constructed afterthought and slightly longer, but it has an end coupe first class compartment, not an observation saloon. Illustrated here. I find the Peco carriages don't look quite right - the waist panels look too deep and the eves panels/toplights too shallow. Edited May 5, 2019 by Compound2632 Added note re. Nos. 3 & 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR Dave Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 The end observation coach is still listed on the Rails of Sheffield website as Peco GR-440 'coming soon' (knew I'd seen it somewhere !) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted May 15, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 15, 2019 3 hours ago, GNR Dave said: The end observation coach is still listed on the Rails of Sheffield website as Peco GR-440 'coming soon' (knew I'd seen it somewhere !) The photo shows No. 17, the brake composite with end coupe first class compartment - as discussed above, not the same length as the other 16 carriages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted June 1, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 1, 2019 I read, on the L&B website, that with the reconstructed composite carriage No. 5 close to entering service at Woody Bay, the heritage carriage group (the East Group) are to start work on a reconstruction of brake composite observation saloon No. 1 - perhaps this will spur Peco on to producing this magnificent vehicle - the most handsome of the L&B carriages in my opinion. Opening dog box? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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