Edwardian Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Well no more has happened to this layout yet I did however receive my order from Andy Stadden which included William Stroudley, who shall take pride of place outside the works, however he will also have to find a spot on my other layouts as well as he sent me 3 of them!!!!!!! So allow me to introduce the Stroudley Triplets: 2017-09-01 19.11.00.jpg This of course sets the scene very clearly as Brighton, and so I think a name change is in order, although I still don't want to call it Brighton Works as it is only inspired by so I am thinking the layout may end up being called "Brighthelmstone Works". For those unaware Brighthelmstone is an archaic name for Brighton in use at the time of the doomsday book, and derives from the Saxon name of the settlement. Thoughts? Gary Finally the truth is revealed, there was no single Stroudley designing locos for the LB&SC.....there were three of them! A different one went into the works each day so as not arouse suspicion, very clever! Seriously though the figures look great, and It will nice to see him make a cameo appearance on you different layouts. I really like the name (mainly because I LOVE anything Anglo-Saxon) and it fits perfectly. Alex I am rather a fan of Brighthelmstone, as I, too, like the use of Anglo-Saxon for naming fictional versions of real places. For instance, I considered a fictional ECML station, GN Section, somewhere near the real Peterborough. Later it became clear that it could also be the 'mainland' jumping-off place for my fictional Fenland Island and eventually link via Bishop's Lynn to the West Norfolk. The Anglo-Saxon name for Peterborough was "Medeshampstead/Medeshamstede", which I think is a lovely name, and 'Meadhampstead' (to modernise a little) would suit a railway station! Tolkien was a great one for taking old words (or inventing them!) and then modernising the spelling, as if the spelling had evolved over time. Nothing wrong with Brighthelmstone,though it could have evolved to be, say, 'Brightonstone', which is a little less of a mouthful for moderns. Railways often took up their own spellings of place names, and you could always spell it 'Brighthelmstone', but pronounce it 'Brightonstun' or 'Brightstun', for added verisimilitude! I suspect, though, you could do worse that leave it as it is. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted September 5, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2017 I do enjoy the evolution of names although I can't see the link between "Medeshamstede" and "Peterborough"!! but "Meadhampstead" does make a good name for a ECML layout. Just wondering though James, do you intend on modelling the entirety of the British Isles at some point?? With a railway in every town! :jester: Gary 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 I do enjoy the evolution of names although I can't see the link between "Medeshamstede" and "Peterborough"!! but "Meadhampstead" does make a good name for a ECML layout. Just wondering though James, do you intend on modelling the entirety of the British Isles at some point?? With a railway in every town! :jester: Gary If I could, Gary, I would. At the moment keeping healthy and solvent enough for long enough to finish Castle Aching seems enough of a challenge! Apparently insurmountable financial problems are, once again, crowding round and trying to usher in that black dog! If CA goes quiet again, it is because I'm busy giving my demons a damn good hiding, though for the present I am able to enjoy modelling vicariously via your efforts! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted September 5, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2017 James, Sorry to hear the finances are bad again, it is something I am familiar with. I must say I am surprised the house has not sold!! Having seen the pictures, if I had the money I would have it, but something tells me you need more than a tenner though!!! I am glad my modelling gives you something to enjoy through the dark times, hopefully they will not last long. Gary 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ChrisN Posted September 6, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) I do enjoy the evolution of names although I can't see the link between "Medeshamstede" and "Peterborough"!! but "Meadhampstead" does make a good name for a ECML layout. Just wondering though James, do you intend on modelling the entirety of the British Isles at some point?? With a railway in every town! :jester: Gary Gary, I assume, although I have no definite knowledge, that as 'borough' was a Viking term, the Vikings actually took over and renamed the town rather than setting up a another town/village nearby which is what usually happened. According to the modern fount off all Knowledge, Jimo Wales Big Bag of Trivia I am almost correct. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medeshamstede Just to point out Andy Stadden does neither Saxon or Viking figures to fit in with a Saxon layout named Brighton. Edited September 6, 2017 by ChrisN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted September 6, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 6, 2017 Thanks Chris, I didn't realise that borough was a Viking term. That Jimbo Wales really does have a lot of Trivia in his bag!! Gary 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted September 12, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 12, 2017 The next step for this layout is what goes under the turntable, on the prototype this was steel with t section strengtheners, I wondered what I could use to make this then remembered i had these: Looks like that job is sorted and I can get on with making the turntable!! Thanks for looking, hope you enjoyed, Gary 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted October 28, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 28, 2017 Gary, I assume, although I have no definite knowledge, that as 'borough' was a Viking term, the Vikings actually took over and renamed the town rather than setting up a another town/village nearby which is what usually happened. According to the modern fount off all Knowledge, Jimo Wales Big Bag of Trivia I am almost correct. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medeshamstede Just to point out Andy Stadden does neither Saxon or Viking figures to fit in with a Saxon layout named Brighton. My reading is that “borough” is an old English word used to denote fortifications put up to defend against Vikings.Not that it matters massively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold phil_sutters Posted October 29, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) Just to point out Andy Stadden does neither Saxon or Viking figures to fit in with a Saxon layout named Brighton. You could always get a 3D scan done by Modelu of this lot, seen on our way to the 2014 Brighton Modelworld. Don't let's get into a massive debate on the shape of their helmets! Of course there is already a railway in Brighton whose name can be traced back to the Saxons - Edited October 29, 2017 by phil_sutters 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted February 17, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2018 Hi people!!!! Weren't expecting to see an update here today were you? I now find myself in a situation where I can work on this layout a bit more freely, and so I have spent the morning playing and I have re-designed the track plan. I think this new layout works better as the back track is no longer attached to the turntable so trains of supplies and workers (The Brighthelmstone Belle) can be brought in! Thoughts please? Thanks for looking, hope you enjoyed, Gary 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Hi people!!!! Weren't expecting to see an update here today were you? I now find myself in a situation where I can work on this layout a bit more freely, and so I have spent the morning playing and I have re-designed the track plan. I think this new layout works better as the back track is no longer attached to the turntable so trains of supplies and workers (The Brighthelmstone Belle) can be brought in! Thoughts please? IMG_20180217_121606.jpg Thanks for looking, hope you enjoyed, Gary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ChrisN Posted February 17, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2018 Gary, Hope all is well with you. If the reason for the layout is as a photographic plank then having a road where you can just have trains arrive sounds good to me. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted February 17, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2018 Thanks for the feedback guys! Yes the plan is still for this to be a photo plank. I have started work on the low relief backscene. showing the new design for the end wall. It won't be flat when it is finished!! What do you think? Thanks for looking, hope you enjoyed, Gary 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ChrisN Posted February 17, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2018 Gary, Are you still going to have the previous backscene along the long back? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted February 17, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2018 Yes. I will still have a full length building on the backscene. This will also be done as a low relief the same as this. side is being done. Depending on how much of this side I get done, I may start on that tomorrow. Gary 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Glad to see something positive has resulted from your current situation! I await further progress with interest. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted February 18, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 18, 2018 Well this is how far I got with the end of the building yesterday!! I am quite happy with that for a days progress especially as I don't usually work with wood!!! I have now started working on the back section. We shall see how far I get with this! Thanks for looking, hope you enjoyed, Gary 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted February 21, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 21, 2018 After a fair amount of cutting and fiddling I finally have a back wall to show!! You can now really get a feel of how the layout will look when it is completed. I have started work on adding details to the end wall, and then shall do the same to the back wall. I think I will have to put something on the backscene to represent the inside of the works with the windows being so big! However I'm not sure what to do. I also am unsure on how to represent the roof behind the back wall! As a reminder of what we are aiming for here is the picture of the works that this is based on again: Any ideas greatly received. Thanks for looking, hope you enjoyed, Gary 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 After a fair amount of cutting and fiddling I finally have a back wall to show!! 2018-02-20 21.29.00.jpg You can now really get a feel of how the layout will look when it is completed. I have started work on adding details to the end wall, and then shall do the same to the back wall. I think I will have to put something on the backscene to represent the inside of the works with the windows being so big! However I'm not sure what to do. I also am unsure on how to represent the roof behind the back wall! As a reminder of what we are aiming for here is the picture of the works that this is based on again: works old b.jpg Any ideas greatly received. Thanks for looking, hope you enjoyed, Gary Looking good. You have got to the excitement building level of the project for me. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgundy Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Gary I also am unsure on how to represent the roof behind the back wall! If you could move the wall clear of the back of the module by even an inch, you could include a foreshortened roof (a very steep slope but the slates in perspective) and you would have space to have something vague going on behind the windows. Best wishes Eric 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted February 21, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 21, 2018 Thanks Eric, I will look at doing that. I may see if I can get away with moving the backscene backwards, as the layout is quite tight being only 11" deep!! Gary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 (edited) Radical thought, but why do you need a backscene? The buildings do the job. If you reduced the height of the backscene you could take the pitch of the roof back over the top of it. Edited February 21, 2018 by Edwardian 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted February 21, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 21, 2018 That is a great idea!!! Now I just need to see if I can work out what a loco works interior looked like in the 1870's so I can put something behind the windows! Gary 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu4472ke Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 what a loco works interior looked like in the 1870's it had locos in it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted February 22, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 22, 2018 I have a slight concern that you may have your buildings too tall. Theres something not quite right about the proportions of the door entrance. Looking at the picture of the works, I think the door isn't as tall as it seems, look at the open wagon in front and the opening looks lower.... Other wise it really is beginning to look the business, and I like the idea of having the roof as the top of the back scene... Andy G 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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