Fat Controller Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 A lot of Italian HGVs were also RHD, for the same reason. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 18 hours ago, Fat Controller said: A lot of Italian HGVs were also RHD, for the same reason. Lancias [Lanchas] wagons always were (and even a lot of Lancia cars too -as Rugds interesting video about the Gloucester restorer posted above explains) Silverstone (when 2 or 3 of us used to bike down as school kids from north Derbys to camp overnight in the early 1950s) used to have some wonderful old Iti buses turn up and kip alongside us with old 4CLT Maseratis and such like stuffed into them. I enjoy buses of that vintage turning up occasionally in Young Inspector Montelbano these days dh 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 3 hours ago, runs as required said: Lancias [Lanchas] wagons always were (and even a lot of Lancia cars too -as Rugds interesting video about the Gloucester restorer posted above explains) Silverstone (when 2 or 3 of us used to bike down as school kids from north Derbys to camp overnight in the early 1950s) used to have some wonderful old Iti buses turn up and kip alongside us with old 4CLT Maseratis and such like stuffed into them. I enjoy buses of that vintage turning up occasionally in Young Inspector Montelbano these days dh Mrs.Rugd1022 is now ell versed in the correct pronunciation of Lancia... 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium J. S. Bach Posted October 11, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) A pre-war Baltimore Transit Company (Maryland) Pullman Standard trackless trolley. In this series of photos, it is being towed (@1976 or 1977) to its new home at the Baltimore Streetcar Museum. The first three shots are on Howard Street where it ran for most of its active service life. The last shot shows it arriving at its temporary storage at the MTA Bush Street facility: Edited October 11, 2019 by J. S. Bach 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Marsbar Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, J. S. Bach said: A pre-war Baltimore Transit Company (Maryland) Pullman Standard trackless trolley. In this series of photos, it is being towed (@1976 or 1977) to its new home at the Baltimore Streetcar Museum. The first three shots are on Howard Street where it ran for most of its active service life. The last shot shows it arriving at its temporary storage at the MTA Bush Street facility: Interesting to see that the channels under the bridge where the overhead wires used to run appear to be still in situ on that photograph. Howard St downtown looks a bit different to that today! I've got a photo of that trolleybus taken inside the BSM depot building back in 2011....... Edited October 11, 2019 by Johann Marsbar 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) Another one from the land of Abarths, Pavaroti and potty traffic jams - a 1956 Fiat 306 series conveyor of the people... Edited October 13, 2019 by Rugd1022 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastairq Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 'Eckover radiator cap badge too. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Pretty sure Lancia didn't enter one of these in the Monte Carlo Rally, but I can just picture it with wider wheels and a face full of fog lights.... 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium JDW Posted October 13, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 13, 2019 5 hours ago, alastairq said: 'Eckover radiator cap badge too. Some fine dustbin lids there too! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastairq Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 These Italian buses are so much better looking than typical British efforts......Nice bit of 'style' 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinZaPint Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Went to the Beer and Buses event this weekend, unfortunately as you know it "rained a bit", however we had some good beer and travelled on a few grand old ladies our transport from Cowes to Newport a nice Routemaster A pal of mine had a Royal Blue just like the one in the middle One brave soul out there In the queue to get back to Cowes saw this and my favourite of the day, took us from the IoW Steam railway to Newport, very nostalgic! Would have been really good on a dry day! but at least we had liquid compensation, sampled several Island brews! 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 A 1969 Lancia... 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted October 14, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 14, 2019 Lancia provided trolleybus chassis to Cape Town for bodying as double deckers. British manufacturers had ceased producing trolleybuses. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Marsbar Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, PhilJ W said: Lancia provided trolleybus chassis to Cape Town for bodying as double deckers. British manufacturers had ceased producing trolleybuses. Porto (Portugal) certainly had Lancia trolleybuses - both single and double deck, one of the double deckers being preserved at Sandtoft. http://tram-porto.ernstkers.nl/Trolleybuses.html Can't recall Cape Town having any though, particularly when the system closed around 1964 - will check up later today when I have access to my library!. They certainly operated Ransomes and Sunbeam ones though. One of the Ransomes ones is preserved at the James Hall Museum in Johannesburg. Edited October 15, 2019 by Johann Marsbar link inserted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted October 15, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 15, 2019 4 hours ago, Johann Marsbar said: Porto (Portugal) certainly had Lancia trolleybuses - both single and double deck, one of the double deckers being preserved at Sandtoft. http://tram-porto.ernstkers.nl/Trolleybuses.html Can't recall Cape Town having any though, particularly when the system closed around 1964 - will check up later today when I have access to my library!. They certainly operated Ransomes and Sunbeam ones though. One of the Ransomes ones is preserved at the James Hall Museum in Johannesburg. It might have been Joannesburg rather than Cape Town. Apparently they were practically identical to the Sunbeams that preceded them, possibly built under licence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Marsbar Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 hours ago, PhilJ W said: It might have been Joannesburg rather than Cape Town. Apparently they were practically identical to the Sunbeams that preceded them, possibly built under licence. The Italian built vehicles in South Africa were actually supplied to Johannesburg in 1957, being a batch of 20 Alfa Romeo/Ansaldo chassis which were bodied locally in SA. There were apparently (unspecified) problems with Sunbeam providing chassis, so that is why the order ended up as Italian ones. They remained in service in Jo'burg until 1974. For anyone interested in such things, see Italian Trolleybuses Abroad, which was published by Trolleybooks a couple of years ago (and which I still have to read properly!) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 More buses large and small from Alfa Romeo... presumably they were built in another factory, away from the main car plant in Arese...? 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium J. S. Bach Posted October 15, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 15, 2019 That last one (Alitalia sign) made me think of a VW bus/van. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted October 15, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 15, 2019 With all the problems Italian cars seem to cause with low tension 12v , wouldn't fancy a vehicle with high current 600V+ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 On 14 October 2019 at 17:36, MinZaPint said: Went to the Beer and Buses event this weekend, unfortunately as you know it "rained a bit", however we had some good beer and travelled on a few grand old ladies our transport from Cowes to Newport. One brave soul out there Love those old Gardner engined high rad Bristol Ks I - even with 6 bay ECW body cut down as an open topper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 10 hours ago, J. S. Bach said: That last one (Alitalia sign) made me think of a VW bus/van. Presumably aimed at the same market. I first came across Alfa's commercial vehicles via The Observer's Book of Commercial Vehicles from the early 60s. Said volume also contained such previously unknown exotica as the Triumph Herald Courier and the Standard Atlas, along with the oddball European stuff, and the even odderball Japanese micros. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Tha later Alfa coach and the 1969 Lancia are both bodied by VanHool in Belgium. The Alfa had the same model of body as the first VanHools imported to the UK by Smiths of Wigan in 1966, based on LHD Leyland Tiger Worldmaster chassis which were originally destined for South America IIRC. The ship they were aboard sank in the Thames estuary and the salvaged chassis were sold to Smiths. VanHool of course are now a significant player in the UK industry. Lancia played a significant role in the early years of the UK bus industry when Barton imported large numbers of them in the 1920s which were lengthened and bodied in the UK. The first roadgoing Diesel engined bus in the world is credited with being one of those after Barton fitted a Hornsby engine to it in 1930. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted October 16, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 16, 2019 The Leyland Worldmasters were intended for Cuba, the ship carrying them ended up on its side after a collision. The Americans made strong objections to the sale of these buses and there were, and still are suspicions about the accident. They were originally fitted with dual door bus bodywork. Some of the less damaged ones did go to Cuba after they were recovered and repaired. Those that went to Smiths the original bodies were badly damaged and were scrapped. A couple of the buses were reported to have survived in Cuba but its doubtful that they are in use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unicorn1 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) An unexpected treat today was a trip aboard FRM 1. This was the first time I'd actually managed some mileage with this unique vehicle. I sat at the back to make sure there was the sound of an AEC 570! Edited October 20, 2019 by Unicorn1 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 A propos ^^^ I have a photograph of RM1 and FRM1 together at Crich Tramway museum taken by myself some years ago; I'll look it out and post it here if I find it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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