rue_d_etropal Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Does this book have scale drawings in it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) Hopefully. Went by this post: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/63604-mallorcan-railway/&do=findComment&comment=947213 Edited May 30, 2017 by MikeTrice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted May 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) It is handy that, in common with quite a few Spanish railways, it is 3ft gauge. That also gives the possibility of HOn3 on 10.5mm track (Shinohara). I'm not too sure though where one might get suitable running gear. Edit to add: Just googled 10.5mm gauge and find that Peco are now doing HOn3. They can do points for that but have struggled to get out some British OO! Edited May 30, 2017 by Joseph_Pestell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 There are some shots throughout the recently started "Railways of Spain" thread on RMWeb that may be of some interest. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/122177-railways-of-spain-photos/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rue_d_etropal Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 I will wait with interest before buying the book myself. Translating Catalan is less of an issue these days with online translation. It seemed quite cheap for a book that size, certainly compared to French ones. Hopefully. Went by this post: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/63604-mallorcan-railway/&do=findComment&comment=947213 With respect to 3ft gauge. I believe that is as much to do with the British builders of the lines and stock. A lot oif the drawings can be found in the Birmingham library, as it holds the original manufacturers documentation. Another scale that would work well is 5.5mm/ft, as this would use OO/HO trackand mechanisms. It is also very close to wargaming 28mm size, so there is a lot of saccessores available. For modern times, the Siku cars and lorries are 1/55 scale, and Norev do a range in 1/54 scale. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted May 31, 2017 Author Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) I am loath to ask this: 1:100 or 1:120? And yes I am aware of the thread on modelling TT metre gauge lines. Edited May 31, 2017 by MikeTrice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted May 31, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 31, 2017 I am loath to ask this: 1:100 or 1:120? And yes I am aware of the thread on modelling TT metre gauge lines. For a 3ft gauge line, I think that there is a good case for 1:100 on 9mm. For metre gauge, I would prefer 1:120 although I take Simon's point about fitting steam loco mechanisms into small bodywork. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted June 3, 2017 Author Share Posted June 3, 2017 Whilst waiting for my new book to arrive (it has now been dispatched) I have played around with the original drawings. I discovered that if I ignore the scale printed alongside them and scale them to match the lengths mentioned elsewhere in the book then they work out pretty well for vertical alignment. With that in mind I have started blocking in the major elements of the coach and motor coach on the basis that when the new book arrives it would be very easy to adjust the blocking to suit. The blocking has been worked out on the basis of various photographs imported into Inkscape. Here is the coach compared to the original Giles Barnaby drawing: Likewise the motor coach: Comparing the two elements with regards to vertical height matches my earlier research. I have even resolved my coupling height issues: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 What would be recommended for the pantographs. I ask , as I need something similar for one of my French projects. Sommerfeldt offer similar diamond frame pans in TT & N (you'd have to check the dimensions to see which would be suitable for this, 882 in TT?). The colour can be easily changed and additional framework soldered in place to suit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class 74 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 An interesting railway, Halling made one of the Trams that run to the Harbor: http://www.halling.at/themes/kategorie/detail.php?artikelid=499 Looking forward to see more! Greez Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 (edited) An interesting railway, Halling made one of the Trams that run to the Harbor: http://www.halling.at/themes/kategorie/detail.php?artikelid=499 Looking forward to see more! Greez Simon Stop tempting me! I've seen the Interurban and the Soller tramway featured in the media and Continental Modeller before, but have never been to Majorca (Did think about it for our Honeymoon but as soon as Mrs 298 said that to the travel agent, the special brochure came out with an extra nought on the end of every price so wee went to the home of another Tramway, Llandudno). Probably a good thing too, it's in the top ten list of prototypes I'd like to model. Edited June 7, 2017 by 298 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted June 10, 2017 Author Share Posted June 10, 2017 The book "El Ferrocarril A Mallorca" by Nicolau S. Cañellas has arrived. As suggested earlier there are a lot of drawings in it, a lot of which are dimensioned, however unfortunately those for the Soller Train are undimensioned. The drawings bear a great similarity to those by Giles Barnaby in "Rails Through Mallorca". As an exercise I thought I would try overlaying one with the other digitally the result of which can be seen here: Interestingly both exhibit the same major flaw: The cabs are represented with a flat front whereas the prototype has a tapered front. Comparison with an imported photograph suggests other possible areas that are questionable: I wonder if both drawings are based on the same incorrect source material? Oh well, back to the drawing board (even if it is a digital one). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted June 10, 2017 Author Share Posted June 10, 2017 Light has finally dawned on me. The windows on the motor coaches are NOT equidistant as they accommodate different classes. With that in mind progress is finally being made: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted June 11, 2017 Author Share Posted June 11, 2017 All major elements of the coach and motor coach have been blocked in and are in proportion to each other (hopefully): My Inkscape drawing actually comprises a number of elements which include the original Gile Barnaby drawings and various photographs to ensure they all marry up correctly: With the Giles Barnaby drawing visibility turned off, this is what I am actually working from: The final drawing is now being constructed on a new layer using all the various elements as references: And this is how it looks with the background elements hidden. Just need to finish it now: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardbealach Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Hi Mike Going for a week to Port de Soller and Soller next week - any pics required? (AM) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted June 11, 2017 Author Share Posted June 11, 2017 Hi Mike Going for a week to Port de Soller and Soller next week - any pics required? (AM) What an offer! Yes please. I am after as many side on views as possible especially of bogies and underframe fittings taken from a low angle, i.e. not from normal standing up height, if that makes sense. Basically whatever you can get (or are prepared to take). Thanks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardbealach Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 HI Mike Have made a note and wil try and sort something out for you! AM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted June 19, 2017 Author Share Posted June 19, 2017 Some small progress: 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted June 19, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 19, 2017 From a modelling point of view it would seem that if you could have the sides laser cut it would be far cheaper than 3D printing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted June 19, 2017 Author Share Posted June 19, 2017 I might know someone with a laser cutter 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 Couple more: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted June 20, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 20, 2017 These might come in handy. Note the built in sag and the different roof profiles. Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 Thanks for those. Not certain it is really different roof profiles. What I have noticed from a number of photos is that the coaches do not all sit level relative to each other so some seem higher than others. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted June 20, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 20, 2017 Sorry, I wasn't too clear, I more meant that some are flush at cantrail level and some overhang a little. I could blow up pics if you wish? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 Yes please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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