47606odin Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 here we go. i have achieved something Bachmann or Kernow can't. a 3 car unit. using Bachmann couplers and a bit of internal rewiring for the centre car i have a fully functional fully illuminated 3T class 204. i have had to sacrifice a 2EPB and part of a CEP under frame, but i have done it. all that remains is a respray and renumber as 1403, and adjust the bogie heights, as all these vehicles suffer from MLV syndrome, and not one coach is the same height as each other 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 all i need to finish off my underframe is to fit a vestibule buffer plate to the back of the EPB DT, does anyone know where i can get one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted July 31, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 31, 2016 Heljan do one as a spare for their 33/1. Available from Howes. Griff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Also, Replica Railways in plastic, MJT in white metal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 thanks guys. most helpful :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tref67 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 A question... Whilst a trailer might allow the creation of a 3H and a 4EPB, are the current models of the 2H and 2EPB wired the same? I.e., if this were looked at commercially, would is there the possibility that it would really require two identical looking carriages, that were wired differently? Also I presume, there would still be a problem with set numbers, or at least the trailer numbers? TIA, Tref. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted September 26, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 26, 2016 A question... Whilst a trailer might allow the creation of a 3H and a 4EPB, are the current models of the 2H and 2EPB wired the same? I.e., if this were looked at commercially, would is there the possibility that it would really require two identical looking carriages, that were wired differently? Also I presume, there would still be a problem with set numbers, or at least the trailer numbers? TIA, Tref. The wiring for the lighting is different in the two models. In the 2H the head-codes are white at one end and red at the other and they are directional. If you don't want the interior lights on then there's an on/off switch in the underframe. On the 2EPB the lights are not directional and you cannot control the lighting and head codes independently - it's either both or none. On the 4CEP the head codes and interior lighting are separate (with DCC you control them via F0 and F1). I did try a 4CEP trailer coach in the 2H and found the interior lights worked in one direction only. However all the 2H's lights worked correctly. There is a precedent (well sort of) for using an ex-CEP trailer coach - see http://www.semgonline.com/gallery/class207_4.html . It is in a class 207 and the coach is from a refurbished 4CEP, but modeller's licence etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintbury jon Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 The epb lights are in fact directional. The reason they don't appear to be is that they are both white. On my DCC one, I have fitted white blanks at both ends and have added some red paint to one of the LEDs. Not perfect but not bad at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 regarding lights. the lighting for the route indicator in the EPB and Demu are reverse. i inserted a complete coupler in the ebb cab end from a CEP driving tailer as that was the cheapest chassis i could get for bits at the time. when connected up the route indicator on the DEMU trailer worked in the wrong direction. this was easily remedied by reversing the wires on the coupler. this then made the the route indicators work in the right direction. the next issue i had was the lights for the ex EPB driving trailer. due to the fact the lights get their power from the contact next to the route indicator, as i have fitted the electric coupler, the circuit board would no longer fit, and i had to cut the end off. this meant there were no contacts for the risers to connect to. this was remedied by soldering wires onto the risers and prior to cutting off the end of the board tracing the tracks back and cleaning them off to a spot where i soldered on the wires from the risers. this means now all lights work from the controller in all vehicles and directional as applicable. i shall be making a video which i will upload on youtube showing all that i did to get this to happen. bear with me though it won't be done this week, but it will be coming Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
den250 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 just a heads up certain shop in Sheffield is now selling the NSE version for £169 cheapest I have seen so far https://railsofsheffield.com/class-205-a2-h-thumper-network-south-east-two-car-demu-JJJA30987.aspx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Hawkins Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I have somehow lost the short horn from my dummy car S60821 of unit 1122, has anyone an idea where I may source a spare from or would it be best to contact Bachmann ? I doubt if Bachmann stock this item as a spare part though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class37418stag Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Hello everyone How many passengers in class 205 thumper? Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted September 2, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2017 Hello everyone How many passengers in class 205 thumper? Thank you 52 second in the motor coach and 13 first, 50 second in the driving trailer composite. The additional centre coach, perhaps one day modelled by Kernow (hopefully!), had 104 second. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted September 2, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 2, 2017 52 second in the motor coach and 13 first, 50 second in the driving trailer composite. The additional centre coach, perhaps one day modelled by Kernow (hopefully!), had 104 second. Correct for the items as released but remember that the luggage compartment between driver and first class also seated 12 second class in the Berkshire units (1127-1133) which never had the seating stripped out and was also reinstated in some units in Connex days to help with overcrowding on the Uckfield line. From memories I would prefer to not have those units could also accommodate as many standing as seated when used on Portsmouth - Bristol duties. I have even seen people in the luggage racks on those trips for want of anywhere else to go. Quite woeful when you think that the journey could be several hours long and most passengers didn't have access to a toilet never mind any other sort of seat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Cregan Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 (edited) Hi anyone taken off the tension lock coupling from the DMBSO? Cheers Jack Edited May 4, 2019 by Jack Cregan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted May 4, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 4, 2019 48 minutes ago, Jack Cregan said: Hi anyone taken off the tension lock coupling from the DMBSO? Cheers Jack It's in an NEM socket so you can just pull it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Cregan Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Hi Thanks yes on the DTC it's easy as the inside end of the coupling is visible. Not so on the DMBSO. Cheers Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted May 4, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 4, 2019 Both ends are NEM pockets - they just pull out with your fingers. If it's tight then just pull gently with a pair of pliers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Cregan Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Got it Thanks Robert Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernMafia Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 I've been faffing about with coach lighting in some Bachmann Mk1s, and thought why not do the same to my Thumper and custom build centre coach. Bachmann seem to have developed a taste for horrible orange LEDs which look naff, and obviously no lighting in the centre coach, so the old orange LED strips were removed and new warm white strips installed, along with a small home made DCC stay alive,see here: Each coach has one fitted, as my Thumper has sound and I can't be arsed with turning a function number on each time I want the lighting on, so they are on all the time. The effect I hope you'll agree is quite pleasing. The interior in the centre coach is painted red, the others are factory standard blue, which accounts for the difference in warmth. I think I prefer the colour of the centre coach so may well paint the other two coach seats red too, but not sure which is correct, I've seen red and blue. 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian J. Posted April 5, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 5, 2020 Nicely done. However, I do wish Bachmann would 'pull their finger out' and produce the three car set properly, in blue/grey, of course. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, Ian J. said: Nicely done. However, I do wish Bachmann would 'pull their finger out' and produce the three car set properly, in blue/grey, of course. Keep dreaming. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted August 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 24, 2020 (edited) I’ve been thinking of getting one in solid blue and just wondering if the center coach was ever removed for repair work etc and the two remaining in service, or would the whole unit be taken out of service? I’m just trying to find a excuse to buy one . Edited August 24, 2020 by jools1959 Spelling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Geep7 Posted August 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, jools1959 said: I’ve been thinking of getting one in solid blue and just wondering if the center coach was ever removed for repair work etc and the two remaining in service, or would the whole unit be taken out of service? I’m just trying to find a excuse to buy one . The current Bachmann BR blue set is numbered 1122, which was one of 4 Class 205 units (1119 - 1122 that always were 2-car units until they became 3-car Class 204's in the early 80's, so there is no excuse.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted August 25, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Geep7 said: The current Bachmann BR blue set is numbered 1122, which was one of 4 Class 205 units (1119 - 1122 that always were 2-car units until they became 3-car Class 204's in the early 80's, so there is no excuse.... Any idea when it was painted into blue and grey? I assume it would about the same time it gained a centre coach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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