David Bigcheeseplant Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 I wonder if anyone had come across any layouts for exhibitions that have any unusual riders on there info sheets. I have not come across anything too weird, normally good accommodation, tea coffee etc, but it crossed my mind that someone may have written or requested something odd like smarties in the accommodation in a bowel with the blue ones taken out! David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMal Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Smarties in a bowel is definitely unusual 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Smarties in a bowel is definitely unusual It'd be more unusual if they ended up somewhere else... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john new Posted June 1, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 1, 2017 No but seen some over egged expenses claims - not sure four Mars bars bought/eaten on way to the show really counts as a legitimate meal expense! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted June 1, 2017 Administrators Share Posted June 1, 2017 Any weird riders would normally be read as "Don't invite me to your show as I'll be a pain in the backside all weekend with stupid whiney demands". 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 No but seen some over egged expenses claims - not sure four Mars bars bought/eaten on way to the show really counts as a legitimate meal expense! If it's good enough for our Peers and MPs then it's good enough for us. TFIC. Dave Franks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 I was under the impressed that the 'smarties with the blue ones removed' (or similar) rider that bands use was a way to test how competent the people running the venue were. http://www.snopes.com/music/artists/vanhalen.asp 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Huw Griffiths Posted June 1, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 1, 2017 No but seen some over egged expenses claims - not sure four Mars bars bought/eaten on way to the show really counts as a legitimate meal expense! If it's good enough for our Peers and MPs then it's good enough for us. It depends - do those Mars bars have to come from John Lewis Waitrose?* * When the parliamentary expenses scandal hit the headlines, there was a lot of fuss about second homes and the "John Lewis list". A number of MPs, from various parties, were implicated - some were "invited" to pay back some of their expenses - while others were "invited" to check into the "iron bar hotel", for an extended holiday "at Her Majesty's pleasure". Joking aside, I could see Mars bars being legitimate for a number of people - especially if they have certain medical conditions (diabetes?). Huw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 At the one show of any size I managed, we did have a condition from layout x that they were not adjacent to layout y (both were fairly well known layouts in the day - 1995). Evidently the two clubs were at permanent loggerheads and although both knew the other was coming, we didn't get a reciprocal request from the builders of layout y! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john new Posted June 1, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 1, 2017 It depends - do those Mars bars have to come from John Lewis Waitrose?* * When the parliamentary expenses scandal hit the headlines, there was a lot of fuss about second homes and the "John Lewis list". A number of MPs, from various parties, were implicated - some were "invited" to pay back some of their expenses - while others were "invited" to check into the "iron bar hotel", for an extended holiday "at Her Majesty's pleasure". Joking aside, I could see Mars bars being legitimate for a number of people - especially if they have certain medical conditions (diabetes?). Huw. DefinItely NOT diabetes, that requires trying to go for a low sugar diet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Huw Griffiths Posted June 1, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 1, 2017 Any weird riders would normally be read as "Don't invite me to your show as I'll be a pain in the backside all weekend with stupid whiney demands". I guess that means my, perfectly reasonable, requests - for a piece of carpet, a snooker cue and a cask of Hoegaarden - would be declined if I ever built an exhibitable layout. After all, there are completely legitimate reasons for all of these: * The carpet would be to stop my feet hurting after 8 hours of standing behind a layout (or table). * The snooker cue would be useful when "explaining" technical points about wiring to people who don't like listening. * As for the Hoegaarden, this might come in very useful after dealing with some of these "comedians". Seriously though, I've never been "inside the barriers" at any show - and I'm not expecting this to change any time soon. Even if this were to happen, I'd go out of my way to be reasonable with my requests - and completely honest with any claims, which would be detailed. Saying that, I'm not expecting this to be put to the test any time soon. Huw. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Huw Griffiths Posted June 1, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 1, 2017 I could see Mars bars being legitimate for a number of people - especially if they have certain medical conditions (diabetes?). Huw. DefinItely NOT diabetes, that requires trying to go for a low sugar diet.If the diabetics I know are anything to go by, it's actually a bit more nuanced than that. Apart from there being a number of different forms of diabetes, I understand that a key issue here is the body not always being able to correctly regulate blood sugar levels. As you say, the problem is often too much sugar. Sometimes, however, the problem might actually be too little sugar - which is why a number of diabetics have sometimes been known to have glucose tablets (or Lucozade) with them, for a quick sugar boost. Huw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick G Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 I must be a exhibition managers dream, I only ever claim for fuel! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnb Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Had a couple of unusual requests in my 'career' (now well over) as an exhibition manager:- One was a request for reimbursement for 'wear and tear' on the layout. (declined as not being notified before the show) Another was similar to Rangers as above, from 'x' please don't put me next to 'y'. Reasons were given and understood and I didn't put them close. 'Over-egged' expenses, as John New says above, were always one to watch out for, as were requests for excessive numbers of operators (usually very rare). OK a couple or so of extra lunches was not really a major issue, but if that translated into o'night accomodation that was a different story. Usually resolved by a phone call. All in all though, almost all requests were very fair and reasonable, for example veggie lunches, never had a request for vegan tho'. Most operators being satisfied with fuel costs (often understated), maybe van hire, a lunch and 'ad-lib' tea and coffee. Overnight stays were on a B&B basis with the evening meal being at the exhibitors expense. Had enormous fun with the shows and made some longstanding friendships, (longer than some of us really care to remember). A fondly remembered period. John 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) If the diabetics I know are anything to go by, it's actually a bit more nuanced than that. Apart from there being a number of different forms of diabetes, I understand that a key issue here is the body not always being able to correctly regulate blood sugar levels. As you say, the problem is often too much sugar. Sometimes, however, the problem might actually be too little sugar - which is why a number of diabetics have sometimes been known to have glucose tablets (or Lucozade) with them, for a quick sugar boost. Huw. Type 1 diebetics do need emergency sugar supplies, but Mars Bars aren't great for that as the carbs are released too slowly. BTW, any type 1s reading this who use Lucosade for emergencies, check the dietary information. They've recently lowered the sugar content in the normal (non-diet) version and it now isn't nearly as effective for treating hypos. Edited June 1, 2017 by Talltim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 DefinItely NOT diabetes, that requires trying to go for a low sugar diet. That may be so, but a Mars bar is a recognised way of boosting sugar levels quickly if the need arises. I always carry a couple with me just in case ( though admittedly rarely use them). Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Storey Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 When I used to exhibit in the late 1970's and early 1980's with a group of friends (we never called ourselves a club, but we were centred on the Globe and Engine in Sittingbourne), two different layouts, in SE London, Kent and East Sussex, our "leader" would always insist that Shepherd Neame should be available within walking distance.....that is why we never went national. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted June 1, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 1, 2017 When I used to exhibit in the late 1970's and early 1980's with a group of friends (we never called ourselves a club, but we were centred on the Globe and Engine in Sittingbourne), two different layouts, in SE London, Kent and East Sussex, our "leader" would always insist that Shepherd Neame should be available within walking distance.....that is why we never went national. Depends how far you want to walk! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnb Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 When I used to exhibit in the late 1970's and early 1980's with a group of friends (we never called ourselves a club, but we were centred on the Globe and Engine in Sittingbourne), two different layouts, in SE London, Kent and East Sussex, our "leader" would always insist that Shepherd Neame should be available within walking distance.....that is why we never went national. Seems quite a reasonable requirement. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnb Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 I guess that means my, perfectly reasonable, requests - for a piece of carpet, a snooker cue and a cask of Hoegaarden - would be declined if I ever built an exhibitable layout. Seriously though, I've never been "inside the barriers" at any show - and I'm not expecting this to change any time soon. Even if this were to happen, I'd go out of my way to be reasonable with my requests - and completely honest with any claims, which would be detailed. Saying that, I'm not expecting this to be put to the test any time soon. Huw. Seriously though, I have known and still do know of exhibitors who have a roll of stair carpet strip as part of their equipment. You ought to try being inside the barriers sometime it's a totally different view of things and very enjoyable. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick G Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Seriously though, I have known and still do know of exhibitors who have a roll of stair carpet strip as part of their equipment. When I exhibited 'Holland Park' we always had a strip of carpet the length of the layout. It's surprising what a difference it makes standing and walking on carpet rather than a hard floor. It was a advantage having a carpet fitter as one of my operators. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 When I exhibited 'Holland Park' we always had a strip of carpet the length of the layout. It's surprising what a difference it makes standing and walking on carpet rather than a hard floor. It was a advantage having a carpet fitter as one of my operators. You had a fitted carpet? Surely most halls are a bit sensitive about nailing carpet grippers to their floors! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick G Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Surely most halls are a bit sensitive about nailing carpet grippers to their floors! They really weren't happy about it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew1974 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Type 1 diebetics do need emergency sugar supplies, but Mars Bars aren't great for that as the carbs are released too slowly. BTW, any type 1s reading this who use Lucosade for emergencies, check the dietary information. They've recently lowered the sugar content in the normal (non-diet) version and it now isn't nearly as effective for treating hypos. My 9 year old son who is type 1 diabetic uses Jaffa cakes rather than mars bars when he needs a boost. But back to the initial point, as long as it is clear and understood what will / won't be claimed before the invite is accepted and everyone sticks to it then all will be well. As long as the 'unusual' requests are agreed upfront then at least exhibitor and manager know where they stand. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew1974 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 When I exhibited 'Holland Park' we always had a strip of carpet the length of the layout. It's surprising what a difference it makes standing and walking on carpet rather than a hard floor. It was a advantage having a carpet fitter as one of my operators. Special mats can be purchased that work even better, we use that at work for machine operators then tend to be stood in one place for most of their shift, makes a huge difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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