Quarryscapes Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 It's taken a lot of flack, but the OR Dean Goods is such a good runner it is well worth some effort to make it look like its namesake. My plan is to turn lined green 2309 into BR Black 2538 as an example. If you've followed the thread in the suppliers section, you'll know that options for the OR Dean goods are limited based on its cab profile and footplate style to the following locos: 2538, 2540, 2543, 2549, 2550, 2555, 2569. That's excluding other detail variables which exclude them as possibilities, though they are all more or less modellable depending how much effort you want to go to! For 2538, I'll be doing the following: Replace Smokebox Door Replace Chimney Remove Lining Replace Tender filler with Correct dome and separate filler. I also plan on doing something about the firebox profile and washout plugs. Add characteristic repair plate to tender. Remove moulded cabside numberpltes. Currently it looks like this: DSXT8518 by Alan Jones, on Flickr 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01001 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Do you think it is possable to convert the Mainline body to fit the Oxford chassis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Do you think it is possable to convert the Mainline body to fit the Oxford chassis. Generally, for an inter-war DG, I'd agree. I assume the intention is to represent the last DG in service; 2538 in her final condition. This makes her a well-photographed example. Both photographs from this period and a very good shot taken in GW days show 2583 to be one of the very few class members that retained a very shallow space between the cab roof and the cut-out to the side-sheet. I could not say whether the line of the cut-out scoop or the radius of the roof are correct for this variant on the Oxford model, but I assume that the narrow band between cut-out and roof line is is the basis of Alan's choice. Otherwise, although lacking in detail and refinement, the small splashers and the better cab-sides would make the Mainline body shell the better base for an upgrade. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarryscapes Posted June 26, 2017 Author Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) Can we please not turn this into another discussion thread over which is better? It's already been done to death in the product thread. 2538 currently looks like this: DSXT8529 by Alan Jones, on Flickr Edited June 26, 2017 by Quarryscapes 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john dew Posted June 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 26, 2017 Hi Firstly, thank you for all the trouble you took to post all those photos on the other thread. I found them really helpful. You mention removing the "moulded number plates". I will be renumbering mine so any advice you can give about the most effective way of doing this will be much appreciated. I was hoping I could just prise them off but I guess from your description that will not be possible Thanks again for all the photos John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarryscapes Posted June 26, 2017 Author Share Posted June 26, 2017 Hi Firstly, thank you for all the trouble you took to post all those photos on the other thread. I found them really helpful. You mention removing the "moulded number plates". I will be renumbering mine so any advice you can give about the most effective way of doing this will be much appreciated. I was hoping I could just prise them off but I guess from your description that will not be possible Thanks again for all the photos John I used an old no.11 scalpel where the end had bent and just kept gently carving it away until it was about right then finished off with 800 grit then 1500 grit emery. Same with the washout plugs. I had hoped they were separate fittings but no, part of the cabside. Beware removing the handrail - it's glued into the rearmost of the knobs on the smokebox, the rest are loose. I think mine is bend beyond repair. 2538 has a particularly large plate on the firebox which is ideal for altering the profile - I took a file and filed down the moulded one and popped a suitably sized sheet of nickel silver in there, some thin plasticard would have been better but I had none thin enough. I might actually do a small etch with replacement plates for doing just this, a bit more filler round the front edge to then I need to source some new washout plugs and drill suitable holes. DSXT8527 by Alan Jones, on Flickr 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarryscapes Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 Waiting on 3D printed replacement parts so I've not done a lot, just removed the D filler from the tender in order to fit separate dome and filler as required for 2538. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) Glad to read your timely remark in the OP and to see a positive thread emerge on the Oxford Dean Goods. I don't know when the version with later smokebox door will hit the shelves but its the one I'm waiting for seeing as i currently have enough to do with building a layout. Already it looks like you are prepared to go to more trouble than I. I was thinking of making washout plugs but if you come across some neat castings, let us know. Edited July 3, 2017 by coachmann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarryscapes Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 Glad to read your timely remark in the OP and to see a positive thread emerge on the Oxford Dean Goods. I don't know when the version with later smokebox door will hit the shelves but its the one I'm waiting for seeing as i currently have enough to do with building a layout. Already it looks like you are prepared to go to more trouble than I. I was thinking of making washout plugs but if you come across some neat castings, let us know. Washout Plugs are part of the 3D printed kit I'm waiting on. https://www.shapeways.com/product/GD99FL2PX/washout-plugs-4mm-scale-00-em-p4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) Washout Plugs are part of the 3D printed kit I'm waiting on. https://www.shapeways.com/product/GD99FL2PX/washout-plugs-4mm-scale-00-em-p4 Interested... Edited July 3, 2017 by coachmann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarryscapes Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) All the replacement 3D parts I'm using are available from my Shapeways shop, and I'm working on a few additional variants too. Edited July 3, 2017 by Quarryscapes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarryscapes Posted July 12, 2017 Author Share Posted July 12, 2017 2538 gets a new chimney, and it's tender is bought into the modern era with a separate dome and filler. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarryscapes Posted July 12, 2017 Author Share Posted July 12, 2017 And now it has a face too! Excuse the weird shading, paint's still wet and the number needs sanding back a bit. Now I just need to find where I put my smokebox dart! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Nice chimney. 2538 had lamp irons mounted on the toolboxes, btw: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_02_2015/post-13142-0-95191300-1423219666_thumb.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted July 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2017 That looks great Alan. The parts make a big difference, they're really convincing. Can't be easy to get a tapered GWR chimneys right. I wish I needed one of those tender fillers, they're superb. Looks like youve' chosen FXD for yourself, any particular reason for that choice over the Hi Def acrylate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarryscapes Posted July 12, 2017 Author Share Posted July 12, 2017 Nice chimney. 2538 had lamp irons mounted on the toolboxes, btw: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_02_2015/post-13142-0-95191300-1423219666_thumb.jpg Oh well, that's one thing mine will have to omit. I'm, not faffing about with lamp irons! That looks great Alan. The parts make a big difference, they're really convincing. Can't be easy to get a tapered GWR chimneys right. I wish I needed one of those tender fillers, they're superb. Looks like youve' chosen FXD for yourself, any particular reason for that choice over the Hi Def acrylate? Very pleased with the chimney too, your Parallel one shouldn't be too far off now either. I have a BHDA version too, but it warped slightly causing the filler not to make contact with the tender top and there are some support remnants between the dome and filler which won't be possible to remove. I also have BHDA and FXD chimneys, and a BHDA tender top that's right up your street, though the support placement is infuriating! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Oh well, that's one thing mine will have to omit. I'm, not faffing about with lamp irons! That's a shame....They are very noticeable and more especially in ¾ and side views. Surely no more difficult than mounting the same irons on the face of a bufferbeam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarryscapes Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 That's a shame....They are very noticeable and more especially in ¾ and side views. Surely no more difficult than mounting the same irons on the face of a bufferbeam. Not to me. I couldn't care less about lamp irons full stop to be honest, not in 4mm scale. I did however have a go at removing the splasher rivets. Ended up going a bit deep in places and not deep enough in others. Easier to do on a non lined one I suspect as the lining is right over them and makes it really hard to see where they are! The handrail did straighten up pretty nicely in the end, so that's now back on too. The paint has been removed from the nickel silver firebox panel to aid marking for new washout plug holes. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted July 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2017 That really does improve the splashers, I think. Very impressed that you managed to get the handrail straight again, looking at mine I would have thought it impossible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarryscapes Posted July 15, 2017 Author Share Posted July 15, 2017 That really does improve the splashers, I think. Very impressed that you managed to get the handrail straight again, looking at mine I would have thought it impossible. Same here! I've never had any wire as easy to straighten as this - I'll have to find out where Oxford are getting it from! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted July 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2017 Nice chimney. 2538 had lamp irons mounted on the toolboxes, btw: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_02_2015/post-13142-0-95191300-1423219666_thumb.jpg Are they toolboxs or sanders? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Sorry, silly me, they are sandboxes of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarryscapes Posted July 16, 2017 Author Share Posted July 16, 2017 Caley Coaches Smokebox dart fitted. I think I'll file down the number and print one, getting white paint on a teeny tiny number and nowhere else is not easy! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Like Coachman, I agree it is great to see a positive modelling article about the Dean Goods. I shall bookmark this thread for when Keith at Waltons gets my black one in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6892 Oakhill Grange Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Waiting on 3D printed replacement parts so I've not done a lot, just removed the D filler from the tender in order to fit separate dome and filler as required for 2538. DSXT8537.JPG Hi How were you able to do this so neatly? When I try similar I get a scratched disaster. Adrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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