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On 04/06/2019 at 10:49, Roy Langridge said:

 

As you say, very visible, but not raised. It is actually a thin groove. 

 

Roy

 

I think there may have been changes, certainly on the SWR 158s. I travelled over to Romsey on one on Saturday and the groove has been covered with a very wide black layer that makes them very obvious. I wonder if Bachmann did their drawings from data collected by a SWR (SWT) version.

all the best

 

Godfrey

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Found out why Scotrail have moved the hopper windows on their 158s.... there is a luggage rack partly filling the first bay so the window wouldn't open! I was discussing a train prep with my trainee today and she asked why they needed the windows if the unit has air con. Had to point that it wasn't always reliable!!

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3 hours ago, Eddie R v2.0 said:

Found out why Scotrail have moved the hopper windows on their 158s.... there is a luggage rack partly filling the first bay so the window wouldn't open! I was discussing a train prep with my trainee today and she asked why they needed the windows if the unit has air con. Had to point that it wasn't always reliable!!

 

:lol::lol: Aircon, that'll be in the same paragraph as fully working HST

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3 hours ago, SprinterMan30 said:

Any clues as to when the Units are going to be released? Hattons are saying on their website July/August whilst the others are saying January/February next year!

 

Bachmanns own website says February 2020 for all three versions so that's probably the earliest we'll see them on the shelves.

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3 hours ago, SprinterMan30 said:

Any clues as to when the Units are going to be released? Hattons are saying on their website July/August whilst the others are saying January/February next year!

Seriously, why are you looking at Hattons website for Bachmann stuff?

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6 hours ago, Andy Mac said:

Seriously, why are you looking at Hattons website for Bachmann stuff?

Because Hattons are the holy grail to some people, most of us have seen the light and moved on years ago!

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25 minutes ago, Darlington South Junction said:

Probably the Hybrids

 

Probably simpler to buy 2x 2-car GWRs and make the necessary adjustments to allow the inner and outer ends to couple. Then some wiring adjustments to allow through control of lighting. So would imagine an RTR example would be unlikely.

 

798 however, they are tooling up a MOS for the 159s. But admittedly unlikely that they'd do the one off unit.

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The 158/9s should have been disbanded by now, yet this has been delayed until the December 2019 timetable change. This shall see 2x158/9s remain,  which along with 158798/150001/002, shall work the Barnstaple's. The rest of the 158/9 fleet shall be re-formed back into their original 2-car formations to cover for Cornwall half-hourly services along with the HST GTi's.

 

What I would utterly utterly love is for the FGW 'dynamic lines' 158/9s! These ran from early 2008-today.

 

 

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I’m glad somebody else has mentioned the ‘dynamic’ or ‘local lines’ livery as they wore this for so many years as you have stated 159220. Also hoping for the 150/2 also in this livery, can’t help but feel though (going off topic here) that the Hornby class 153 is sliding towards being in the RailRoad range... May start a new topic on this if there’s enough interest. 

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1 hour ago, Shoey said:

I’m glad somebody else has mentioned the ‘dynamic’ or ‘local lines’ livery as they wore this for so many years as you have stated 159220. Also hoping for the 150/2 also in this livery, can’t help but feel though (going off topic here) that the Hornby class 153 is sliding towards being in the RailRoad range... May start a new topic on this if there’s enough interest. 

Sorry to hijack the thread, but what makes you think that? 

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55 minutes ago, Darlington South Junction said:

Sorry to hijack the thread, but what makes you think that? 

Indeed, the 153 is far from being a railroad model. If that is to be the level that makes something railroad, Hornby won’t have much left. 

 

Roy

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58 minutes ago, Darlington South Junction said:

Sorry to hijack the thread, but what makes you think that? 

 

1 minute ago, Roy Langridge said:

Indeed, the 153 is far from being a railroad model. If that is to be the level that makes something railroad, Hornby won’t have much left. 

 

Roy

Ok, I may have been a little harsh to locate the 153 in the RailRoad range but just feel as though it could do with an upgrade or even retool slightly (if cost effective) it’s lack of prototypical lighting, ploughs that clip and turn with the bogie (I know there are other models/manufacturers that do this too) internal lighting, orange door lights. Just when you compare it to this 158 that is due and Realtrack’s already released 156.

Hey guys look, it’s just my opinion. The 153 has been around for many years and I just feel as though it might be time for an upgrade.

I won’t say anymore on this as it’s diverting away from the topic of this thread.

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5 hours ago, Shoey said:

I’m glad somebody else has mentioned the ‘dynamic’ or ‘local lines’ livery as they wore this for so many years as you have stated 159220. Also hoping for the 150/2 also in this livery, can’t help but feel though (going off topic here) that the Hornby class 153 is sliding towards being in the RailRoad range... May start a new topic on this if there’s enough interest. 

 

Aye, FGW livery first appeared in early October 2007 (I cannot remember the unit number) and can still be found today on 158763 (all be it, in one shocking level of tatter) - that gives the livery 11 years, 10 months and counting (train vinyl is made for 7 years). Not as long as SWT livery, but fairly close! The 159/9s were first re-formed at FGW in early (March - 158951) 2008, with 158960 lasting until last month - 11 years, 3 months. 

 

Only thing, I know its utter fantasy to wish that we would ever see this livery on a model. Seeing as Bachmann claim they cannot produce FGW or Wessex on the 150/2 with their fancy ink jet printer (as per 66 specials). I suspect the FGW shall never appear. Which is a shame. But, like with anything - money talks. So as with a Wessex 150/2. I would be willing to pay a handsome premium to have a FGW 158/9 or two. Say £100-200 ontop of the base model? Who else would?

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On 06/07/2019 at 12:27, Wild Boar Fell said:

 

Probably simpler to buy 2x 2-car GWRs and make the necessary adjustments to allow the inner and outer ends to couple. Then some wiring adjustments to allow through control of lighting. So would imagine an RTR example would be unlikely.

 

798 however, they are tooling up a MOS for the 159s. But admittedly unlikely that they'd do the one off unit.

 

You’d need to buy three 2 car sets to make two hybrid units.

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5 minutes ago, royaloak said:

Are you sure?

How do you work that out?

 

Pure maths, you need six carriages to make two hybrid sets; DM (A) - DM (B) - DM (A) - 52xxx or 57xxx car.  If you bought just two 2 car sets, you’ll have a spare DM left over.

 

As I worked with them on a regular basis, I know.

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Just now, jools1959 said:

 

Pure maths, you need six carriages to make two hybrid sets; DM (A) - DM (B) - DM (A) - 52xxx or 57xxx car.  If you bought just two 2 car sets, you’ll have a spare DM left over.

I misread the post I quoted and deleted my reply within one minute, you must have managed to quote me before it was deleted, quick work.

 

You are of course correct.

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On 23/08/2019 at 09:37, Sir TophamHatt said:

Sorry to bump this with a boring question but wondered if anyone could tell me how long one coach is?

 

With and without couplings.

 

Just want to plan storage.

The prototype is 23.21m thus *IF* Bachmann have gone to correct scale, it *should* measure 30.46cm - or am I going mad with maths?

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A shot of the 158 samples from Warley yesterday. Spoke to one of the reps in the lounge as they were keen to see what items I was interested in and apparently they’re expected to arrive in the middle of next year. 
 

Warley NEC


cheers Peter

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