RMweb Gold Popular Post PaulRhB Posted July 8, 2017 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2017 (edited) This was originally intended as an extension to my Lulworth layout to represent the china clay works beyond the fiddleyard. I was going to use an Agenoria MSC loco but with the advent of the Pecketts and Sentinel I decided to continue the RTR theme behind Lulworth and the theme was rather derailed by the superb H&P liveried Peckett So a couple of redesigns later and I'm down to two options. I have ordered the Tillig cobbled tram track in two radii, 205mm & 250mm to see what the couplings will stand being pushed round. The aim is still to fit it all on a 2x3ft board although I may split that in two and make an L shape. The idea is to make it a cased layout so I can stack stuff on top or just pop it down like a suitcase. Edited July 9, 2017 by PaulRhB 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon A Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 I like your two half buildings. Where did they come from? Gordon A 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted July 8, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 8, 2017 Bachmann scenecraft 44-238 found cheap on ebay. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted July 10, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 10, 2017 (edited) Testing on the 205mm radius, they are quite happy Edited July 10, 2017 by PaulRhB 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted July 10, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 10, 2017 Would the couplings be eased even more if you removed one hook from each wagon ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted July 10, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 10, 2017 Yes but this was really a test of do they work as standard The wagons aren't tight only the longer overhang of the loco is pushing it and it doesn't cause a problem. If I retain the hooks and don't go to kadee's as usual I remove the loco hooks anyway as it looks better. I did mull over three link but I'll leave that for the O gauge messing around as you spend half your time batting the wagons around in 4mm with big fingers like mine. This is a home plaything to add a bit more interest to operating Lulworth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted July 25, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2017 (edited) Practical testing has lead to some revisions. The Luna points are a bit loose so some tweaking required to stop stock splitting them and wandering off in two directions at once! I decided to include a loop so I can run things in. There will be a short tunnel in the backscene about 50mm long with a lightweight black, (binliner), curtain to hide the far side. Just need to order some more Luna track. The wagons do occasionally derail but a little weight solved that. The loco coupling is also prone to jumping off the side of the wagon loop due to the longer overhang but bendingbit gently to the left has solved that too. I'm going to try kadees next Edited July 25, 2017 by PaulRhB 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted July 29, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 29, 2017 (edited) Now I've put the loop within the scenic board I still need to be able to bring in the wagons from the SR or GWR (depending on the identity of the Pecketts I'm running ) Unsurprisingly I've chosen a cassette as I have the Peco locolifts and the DCC Concepts MPD longer cassettes. The idea now is I can change the identity to H&P, a generic industry, somewhere on the MSC or possible a brewery in the future by changing a few signs and the details lying around in the yard. So it will be some branded vans, coal and timber piles or barrels etc that can be changed around. Like I did on Lulworth the signs can be stuck to sections of steel pepsi cans that have been flattened and then small neo magnets drilled into the walls fix them but allow easy swapping around. Edited July 29, 2017 by PaulRhB 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted July 29, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 29, 2017 205mm, = 8.7 inches in real money. That'd be pushing it in 009; this is remarkable and boundary stretching stuff! I think you are managing a 4mm continuous circuit layout in 27 x 18 inches excluding the cassette. Assuming you decide to keep the tension lock couplers and not go for Kaydees, I would suggest retaining both the hooks for each coupled vehicle as they are offcentre and will tend to pull sideways if both are not there; of course, Kaydees may well prove to be a better option as a buffer/coupling. A fascianting project which I will follow with interest, but I assume 10' wheelbase wagons and the Pecketts or maybe a Sentinel will be it! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted July 29, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 29, 2017 (edited) Remember that's radius the board is 2ft x 3ft overall as two of the sidings are outside those radii. There will be 0.6.0's bringing wagons in from the mainline, (the cassette), but they'll only drop them in the exchange siding then shuffle off into the cassette again. With the couplings I've found the narrow Bachmann ones work best with one hook and the extra length of the Peckett meant it's coupling jumped out of the adjoining loop on the reverse curve of the siding. I solved that by bending the Peckett hook slightly towards the inside of the radius and it all works fine. The wider original Bachmann coupling loop works fine as it is so you can leave both hooks on if you don't include any stock with narrow couplings. Still need to try kadees Edited July 29, 2017 by PaulRhB 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire Hog Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Remember that's radius the board is 2ft x 3ft overall as two of the sidings are outside those radii. There will be 0.6.0's bringing wagons in from the mainline, (the cassette), but they'll only drop them in the exchange siding then shuffle off into the cassette again. With the couplings I've found the narrow Bachmann ones work best with one hook and the extra length of the Peckett meant it's coupling jumped out of the adjoining loop on the reverse curve of the siding. I solved that by bending the Peckett hook slightly towards the inside of the radius and it all works fine. The wider original Bachmann coupling loop works fine as it is so you can leave both hooks on if you don't include any stock with narrow couplings. Still need to try kadees Crumbs Paul, this layout takes the biscuit. Best regards. Kevin. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted July 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2017 Excellent looking project! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Mmm, a novel little idea Paul, look forward to seeing it sometime. I still have this plan to build a small Black Country (ish) colliery with its few attendant sidings, one day - time permitting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted July 30, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2017 Thanks chaps, I didn't intend this one going out once it morphed away from part of Lulworth but we will see how it goes. It does have the advantage of being very easy to move 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted July 30, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) I wanted the track on the exchange siding side to be sleepered so I removed the rail and bent it round an aerosol tin.And after carefully slotting it back in with the outer sleeper web cut. Edited July 31, 2017 by PaulRhB 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 the other day i found some real tight trackwork at Buchanans flour mill in Birkenhead on britain form above a tight hairpin https://britainfromabove.org.uk/en/image/EAW036039 and with vans left on it https://britainfromabove.org.uk/en/image/EAW038518 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted July 31, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 31, 2017 the other day i found some real tight trackwork at Buchanans flour mill in Birkenhead on britain form above a tight hairpin https://britainfromabove.org.uk/en/image/EAW036039 and with vans left on it https://britainfromabove.org.uk/en/image/EAW038518 Superb find, thanks very much 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted October 7, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 7, 2017 A friend passed away from Motor Neurone Disease and in clearing his models out his wife passed this on to me thinking it might be good for one of my layouts. Just about perfect for the other side of Peckett Paradise So a donation to MNDA and the street will be named after Chris 8 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDJR7F88 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Superb work indeed Paul. Certainly looks like you can fit a lot in, in a small space with that track work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted July 7, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 7, 2018 It's not as reliable as I'd like though so I've been contemplating hand laying it instead! Need the time and enthusiasm so it's on hold as a couple of other layouts are more urgent to get finished. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
retiredoperator Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Hi There. I have a Peckett on pre order to run on an Inglenook , I was hoping that it would have arrived, but being prototypical the train is late. I had been planning on DCC ing a pair of L& Y Pugs , but they, to me , seem a bit crowded. In the meantime I am running an O8 shunter. I read something that doesn’t make sense? about “ track radii “ and 0-4-0 Locos which I don’t understand , because loco would go anywhere on any radii, but apparently not. Happy modelling. Kevin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted September 24, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) The 0-4-0 locos will run on incredibly tight radii but you tend to get problems with buffers locking and couplings not having enough sideplay. Both can be sorted with changes to bigger or block buffers and the couplings but I didn't want to hack up the H&P loco Edited September 24, 2018 by PaulRhB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Great start. What's next ? Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted February 17, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2019 Cogitation on handbuilding track as I’m not happy with the Tillig points and inlay. So it’s on the back burner while other layouts are taking up time. It will happen as I’ve ordered more Pecketts, 4 & 6 wheeled! I’m also playing with ideas on a slot in backscene so it can change from biscuits to beer in an instant 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
south_tyne Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 On 17/02/2019 at 11:39, PaulRhB said: Cogitation on handbuilding track as I’m not happy with the Tillig points and inlay. So it’s on the back burner while other layouts are taking up time. It will happen as I’ve ordered more Pecketts, 4 & 6 wheeled! I’m also playing with ideas on a slot in backscene so it can change from biscuits to beer in an instant Paul, Please to hear this one is still alive and kicking. I love it - it's a fascinating little project. Biscuits and beer..... what more could we ask for! Look forward to seeing progress in due course. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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