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Yep it’s the Luna stuff which is ok but the flat insert with printed cobbles just doesn’t quite look right amongst the better detailed buildings and stock to me. ;)

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Paul what were your issues with the Tillig track? I wondered about a dock scene utilising it as it looks quite neat - especially the short bladed point that reminds me of wandering around Bristol docks as a child. 

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On 19/02/2019 at 13:29, PaulRhB said:

Yep it’s the Luna stuff which is ok but the flat insert with printed cobbles just doesn’t quite look right amongst the better detailed buildings and stock to me. ;)

(Puts on revolting pedant hat) I think you'll find, Paul, that these are printed setts, not cobbles.  Cobbles are round.

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2 hours ago, James Hilton said:

Paul what were your issues with the Tillig track? I wondered about a dock scene utilising it as it looks quite neat - especially the short bladed point that reminds me of wandering around Bristol docks as a child. 

The printed cobbles/setts ;) just look too flat and shiny. I’m considering either hand laying points to match the bullhead rail or replacing the plastic inserts with Das cobbles. 

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12 minutes ago, PaulRhB said:

The printed cobbles/setts ;) just look too flat and shiny. I’m considering either hand laying points to match the bullhead rail or replacing the plastic inserts with Das cobbles. 

So nothing mechanical or electrical? I was looking at Tarmac infill anyway... the point radius is what looked promising...

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The points are ok but it’s folded strip so it does require gentle persuasion to get smooth joints. I’ll take some pictures tomorrow and try to link up the controller to show what I mean ;) 

busy on the FR today ;) 

 

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Here we go, the video shows how bumpy it is even screwed down. You don’t notice it with bogie trams but the Pecketts lose contact and the wagons derail too much to make it fun at home let alone at a show.  I had to remove couplings at one end to minimise derailments. 

 

On the point this step causes some of the derailments. 

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Followed by this bump where the rail meets the crossing. 

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Joining up the inset pieces leaves gaps, some you can close up using inset pieces but joining another point on means chopping up the longer sections to exact lengths. 

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And you still get bumps like this. 

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So overall a nice try at rtr but it just needs loads of faffing around to run reasonably and then doesn’t look great close up. To be honest I think it’s as quick to lay inset track with Das clay on plain track but it’s not so easy on points and no one offers such good radii for works trackage. 

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Having used the Kato and Tomix N gauge inset track, which are far better looking and just snap together, I just lost enthusiasm for it and it went on hold until I’m in the mood to try building track again or redesign it completely to use larger radii points. 

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What modelling software did you use to design the layout? I know this question is a bit off-topic, but the information would be helpful to myself and others when it comes to designing and planning out track lengths.

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42 minutes ago, MoarCrossovers said:

What modelling software did you use to design the layout? I know this question is a bit off-topic, but the information would be helpful to myself and others when it comes to designing and planning out track lengths.

;) Microsoft Word! ;) 

I use the drawing tools and lay it over a grid picture. The three way split is just the Tillig drawing scaled and inserted as a picture with the white erased. 

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With Peco announcing the medium bullhead points I’ve tried out some new ideas for the layout. 
Rather than squeeze the loop onto the main board I’m thinking of a fold down 1x2 flat board hinged to the end so the return half is off scene. 
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Here’s a test on 8” radius

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I've use R4 curves on the fold down loop on T-CATS.

 

I also used a pair of fire-door hinges to ensure no unwanted movement of the trackbeds.

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I’ll look up the hinges thanks but I think I’m going to have to bend my own track as it must be R(-1)! ;) 

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On 23/06/2019 at 16:38, PaulRhB said:

Here we go, the video shows how bumpy it is even screwed down. You don’t notice it with bogie trams but the Pecketts lose contact and the wagons derail too much to make it fun at home let alone at a show.  I had to remove couplings at one end to minimise derailments. 

 

On the point this step causes some of the derailments. 

A0F3D336-E038-4A87-9672-02C029934256.jpeg.cea366cf439578bed2c66496dd328c9f.jpeg

 

 

Followed by this bump where the rail meets the crossing. 

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Joining up the inset pieces leaves gaps, some you can close up using inset pieces but joining another point on means chopping up the longer sections to exact lengths. 

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And you still get bumps like this. 

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So overall a nice try at rtr but it just needs loads of faffing around to run reasonably and then doesn’t look great close up. To be honest I think it’s as quick to lay inset track with Das clay on plain track but it’s not so easy on points and no one offers such good radii for works trackage. 

 

Hi Paul. Can I ask, presumably you fitted the little metal in-rail connectors at the joints? I’ve been wondering about this track for a yard , seems like it will need a lot of fettling for smooth-ish running. 

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Yes the connectors are in which is why you can see the bump in the second photo goes up in three stages! Tram bogies manage it but the longer wheelbase of the wagons and Peckett randomly derail.

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