The Bigbee Line Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Hal Nail said: A bit late to reply but the wooden one appears to use those prominent angled headstocks as the banger? I had noticed that, but wondered what the piece was, riveted nearby to the sole bar. I might try adding the extra bits to the sole bar with a single door spring in the middle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 A piece of styrene sheet was filed to a wedge shape. Then cut into four pieces, cemented to the end of each headstock. When dry will get final shaping. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 The door springs are made, with the first one in position.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 So again thanks to “Hal Nail” for the “door banger” choice. The end of the door bangs on a longer headstock. There is one metal “banger” between the legs of the V hanger. A 3/4 view... Now trying to scribe planks inside as it will run empty. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 Help required to identify this wagon body. This body waiting to enter the shops. Does anyone recognise the prototype 4 plank wagon? Any information is appreciated..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcD Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 It's a parkside NBR 4 plank circ 1889-1940(ISH) they are now produced by peco Marc 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) I had a shuffle and put the NB open to the back of the queue. Until my new LNER book arrives. The former Palbrick has been shunted into the shop. One gang is on brake work. The other is painting the body. There is gloss where the transfers need to go. Various other patches added. When I was a freight guard in the 80s these were rust all over.... The big train axle guards and boxes are re-used with a bit of tarting up... Edited March 6, 2020 by The Bigbee Line 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 Today I want to get the body painting completed. I am using B596094 as my model. By chance I took a picture of the wagon in 1982. It was ex Betteshanger Colliery and detached after a hot axle box... Looking at in detail there are remnants of the original bauxite painted area from when the wagon was built using a Palbrick underframe in 1975. With a picture date of 1982, the original paint was only 7 years old. It hasn't fared too well, so suspect it was a cheap and cheerful paint job. Single coat sprayed on (I'm sure a member will clarify). The darker rusted areas seem to be either general failure of the original paint or from impacts inside the body. The TOPS data panel seems to be on a more recent patch, with the change to MXV from MCV on another smaller patch of a slightly different colour. For added detail there are the remains of the yellow 'HMLE' panel. These were stuck on to show brake force in Heavy, Medium, Light or Empty states and were used when writing a manual train list. You can also see the rather faded 'Red Card - Hot Axle Box' label after it developed a hot axle box heading north and been detached. So a varied pallet of colours is the order of the day... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 Just tried a Parkside data panel. It seems overscale.... Maybe a 4mm one might work better. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) Sublime to..... Here’s a Modelmasters 00 for size. It’s not the correct wagon, but is too small anyway. Suggestions please. Thanks Edited March 7, 2020 by The Bigbee Line Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 7 hours ago, The Bigbee Line said: Just tried a Parkside data panel. It seems overscale.... Maybe a 4mm one might work better. I did a “cut and shut” on the existing decal. Then added numbers and letters. I think it could be made a better proportion if starting from scratch. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) Having established the methodology I’ve made a start with side two. For me the number is the key. I would like to shunt with a shunt list, so a fairly legible number is a plus. Dating this wagon to 1982 ties in nicely with the period that I was out on the “iron road” as a guard at Ashford in Kent. There are a few wagons that I’d like to model that are out of my Hayling Island pre 64 period. So this date will give me some discipline not to wander to far. Plus a blue 09 will do nicely. Edited March 7, 2020 by The Bigbee Line 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted March 8, 2020 Author Share Posted March 8, 2020 Another cruel close up. The build up of the data panel continues.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sf315 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Hello Ernie MXV looking good ill be able to borrow it . Id leave the tops panel as the pic above, as it looks as if its in the same state as the rest of the wagon and weather it in. It looks good with a bit missing. thanks Steve 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted March 8, 2020 Author Share Posted March 8, 2020 49 minutes ago, sf315 said: Hello Ernie MXV looking good ill be able to borrow it . Id leave the tops panel as the pic above, as it looks as if its in the same state as the rest of the wagon and weather it in. It looks good with a bit missing. thanks Steve Steve Thanks for the feedback. This is the easiest conversion from the Big Train model. Just add a few mm of height at the bottom, extend the stanchions downwards to fill in the missing bits, cut out the old doors that are too narrow and make a new door. The PALBRICK conversions have no top traders door, so it is simple... I made a replacement section above the end door, just to try it, looks good, but for running is not essential. This one has the Big Train underframe re-used, a bit of a work up, but makes it cheap on materials. I added the luxury of sprung buffers. I will also add some thin brass brake levers as it will catch the eye and stop it wandering to the axleboxes. There is lots to do on the weathering, I'm going to try using copydex instead of maskol to make patches, paint over, then peel off the copydex (It only works for a day or two as the copydex will go sticky eventually, I found that out when I tried to use its rubbery properties in 4mm wagon suspension) I will work out the hire rates for the next show, Very best regards Ernie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sf315 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Thanks Ernie If you wanted a pitted texture to the wagon paint the wagon base brown colour then cover it with talcum powder shake it off and give it a rust colour paint coat then Maskol or however to get the top coat on. You could try this on the next one. Thanks Steve. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted March 8, 2020 Author Share Posted March 8, 2020 It’s like time lapse photography.... keeps me off the streets.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted March 8, 2020 Author Share Posted March 8, 2020 One side is done. This time from the more normal viewing distance. I’ve added a representative “HMLE” yellow sticker (actually a chopped up panel from an HO box car sheet. The nondescript black lettering looks fine). Plus a maintenance panel and the 10’0” wheelbase. On this one I used a decal for the white stripe. Now it’s on with the brake work and weathering. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 Tonight Mathew I’m doing brakes.... In the spirit of make do and mend, I rooted around in my scrap brake parts box. Finding a couple of handy brake slides. The base was filed and the top gently filed to fit nice and snug in the sole bar. So after tea I can fab up and fit the brake handles. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) When having one of my many clear outs I came across a tub of Copydex. So gave it a try as a 'maskol' substitute. Here with some Copydex brushed on in a semi random pattern: The with a coat of bauxite over the top: Then after a few minutes to dry it peeled off: Now to add rust streaks and a grime wash. P.S. could not get pictures the right way up..... Edited March 9, 2020 by The Bigbee Line Could not spell..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 Well... my stash of lids from drink cups gave me a bonus today.... I wanted a shaped piece for the end of a brake lever... So here’s the first cut showing the bend... Then setting up in the end of a Parkside lever.... Then a test run... It needs a bit more fettling when properly dry... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted March 10, 2020 Author Share Posted March 10, 2020 Nearly there. Safety loops and door bangers to go..... oh and tie bar... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 Just a few changes today. I had noticed that the wagon was down on one end. I just shimmed they axle guards at the low end. I’ve also added the first safety loop. Just a piece of waste brass 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) Duplicate Edited March 12, 2020 by The Bigbee Line Duplicate entry removed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) I’d forgotten to add the representative spring shoes. So here goes. They are the white rectangular blobs This is the underside. Shortlist is now: 2 more safety loops, vac pipes and 2 door bangers and the vacuum cylinder... Edited March 11, 2020 by The Bigbee Line 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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