Indomitable026 Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, Mark Forrest said: Go on, give us a cheeky look at its underside, I'm intrigued. Ok, as requested, here’s the ‘up the skirt view...’ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted December 14, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 14, 2020 Phwoar! Plenty of room under there for anything from a straightforward wheel swap through to something much more complicated (if needed). Wouldn't it be great if manufacturers and reviewers included photos like that for the benefit of those of us working in the wider gauges? 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, Mark Forrest said: Phwoar! Plenty of room under there for anything from a straightforward wheel swap through to something much more complicated (if needed). Wouldn't it be great if manufacturers and reviewers included photos like that for the benefit of those of us working in the wider gauges? You must get out more. I dread to think what “something much more complicated (if needed)’ entails... 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 Just look at this for a picture... https://railphotoprints.uk/p683721011/hCF0701B6#hcf0701b6 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted December 14, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Indomitable026 said: Ok, as requested, here’s the ‘up the skirt view...’ Up the kilt, or under the sporran, surely? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted December 14, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 14, 2020 57 minutes ago, Indomitable026 said: I dread to think what “something much more complicated (if needed)’ entails... Doubt that it would be necessary, but (depending on the wheelbase) there's always one of these... Which will hopefully find itself under a Stove R, one day. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 5BarVT Posted December 14, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2020 47 minutes ago, Indomitable026 said: Just look at this for a picture... https://railphotoprints.uk/p683721011/hCF0701B6#hcf0701b6 Excellent! It must be a model, just look at how far the bonnet is out of line with the buffers. Paul. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, Mark Forrest said: Doubt that it would be necessary, but (depending on the wheelbase) there's always one of these... Which will hopefully find itself under a Stove R, one day. Thats very smart. Who makes it? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted December 14, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, Indomitable026 said: Thats very smart. Who makes it? It's the Brassmasters Cleminson underframe: http://www.brassmasters.co.uk/cleminson_underframe.htm 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted December 14, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2020 I can’t physically get to it just now*, but when I built a 6-wheel brakevan, I used standard w-irons (one fixed, one rocking) on the outer axles, and for the inner axles, removed the pin-points and enclosed the axle in a piece of 2mm bore brass tube, which was soldered to a piece of thin steel wire (electric guitar top-E string) with lots of play, and only enough pressure to keep the wheels on the track but to carry minimal load. It has worked well ever since, on its occasional outings, without any adjustment. *Since the under frame is black, it probably wouldn’t photograph well, anyway! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJCT Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) This is a slightly different take on the uses for Independent Snow Ploughs, but there's plenty of room for P4 wheels between the side-frames, see - - fixed axle under the blade end and rudimentary compensation at the other. As for the centre axle, a 6-wheel ex-NBR van (D&S kit, I think) I got from a friend many years ago has a sort of floating axle carrier suspended on 2 brass wires: sounds much like Regularity's arrangement described above. HTH Alasdair Edited December 15, 2020 by AJCT Clarification & spelling ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted December 15, 2020 Author Share Posted December 15, 2020 14 hours ago, Mark Forrest said: Doubt that it would be necessary, but (depending on the wheelbase) there's always one of these... Which will hopefully find itself under a Stove R, one day. I was just thinking, it’s a shame when something as nice as this is built and most of it is hardly ever seen... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted December 15, 2020 Author Share Posted December 15, 2020 Inbound. I’ve never thought of this before, but in terms layout weight, wiring must contribute. This stuff’s quite heavy. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted December 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 15, 2020 Do you really need it that thick?, it's only a bit of a shed. Mike. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted December 15, 2020 Author Share Posted December 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said: Do you really need it that thick?, it's only a bit of a shed. Mike. A bit of a shed? ha ha 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted December 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Indomitable026 said: A bit of a shed? ha ha OK then, part of a motive power depot, just to try and distance it from your normal modelling standards!!!! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted December 15, 2020 Author Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Enterprisingwestern said: OK then, part of a motive power depot, just to try and distance it from your normal modelling standards!!!! Mike. I’m thinking of renaming the layout now... ”A bit of a shed”... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted December 15, 2020 Author Share Posted December 15, 2020 It’s the wiring size we standardised on Black Country Blues but I agree I haven’t got the length here... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted December 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, Indomitable026 said: I’m thinking of renaming the layout now... ”A bit of a shed”... Just make sure the cheque is in the post! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted December 15, 2020 Author Share Posted December 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said: Just make sure the cheque is in the post! Mike. You’ll get something in the post.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portchullin Tatty Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 23 hours ago, Mark Forrest said: It's the Brassmasters Cleminson underframe: http://www.brassmasters.co.uk/cleminson_underframe.htm I stopped using Cleminson chassis, they are not as easy to use in practise. Instead I now use sliding axles and wouldn't go back on them. Details here and you will see that the RTR plough uses the same concept. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted December 16, 2020 Author Share Posted December 16, 2020 17 hours ago, Portchullin Tatty said: I stopped using Cleminson chassis, they are not as easy to use in practise. Instead I now use sliding axles and wouldn't go back on them. Details here and you will see that the RTR plough uses the same concept. Mark, Thats so interesting, thanks for posting the link. I’ll have to have a think as to the best way to go with the ploughs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted December 16, 2020 Author Share Posted December 16, 2020 I’m just having a bit of a head scratch moment while reading the instructions for the point motor mounting base. The instructions say the vertical tubes - that hold the wire to the switchblades up through the baseboard - should be on 20.5 mm centres. This is obviously greater than the track gauge but I can’t work out why? To me the blades will be spaced well below the track gauge. I’m missing something. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Cram Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 The wire from the tube is joggled under the rail to stop the switch riding higher than the stock rail. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted December 16, 2020 Author Share Posted December 16, 2020 20 minutes ago, Paul Cram said: The wire from the tube is joggled under the rail to stop the switch riding higher than the stock rail. That makes perfect sense - I hope my holes in the board can accommodate this. Thank you 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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