RMweb Premium 47137 Posted October 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 26, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, 47137 said: Please, do we know yet whether the body shell is plastic or diecast? (If it's plastic I'll place a pre-order with a view to converting it to another class, but if it's diecast I'll pass it by) - Richard. 43 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: For that, you might do as well with the old Mainline/Bachmann version which is plastic and a good deal cheaper, second hand. E? Or something off-NER? The project would be a LSWR G6 in 1:87 scale - major dimensions convert well. To be honest, the Palitoy chassis is never going to satisfy. I could go for a Palitoy body on a scale underframe (a kit), but the new Bachmann model will probably run as well or better than any chassis I can build. So really, the new Bachmann model would be a good starting point if it has a plastic body; but if the body is diecast I'll go the Palitoy/chassis kit route or not begin at all. Hence my question :-) Edit: I should add, I have some vouchers to spend in a shop. They have no stock I actually want (few shops do), but the new J72 just might be a way to spend the vouchers. - Richard. Edited October 26, 2019 by 47137 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 26, 2019 1 hour ago, 47137 said: The project would be a LSWR G6 in 1:87 scale - major dimensions convert well. That makes sense. I was thinking that at 4 mm/ft the E1's drivers would be a little on the small side for anything look-alike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cor-onGRT4 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 (edited) According a review i read in M Railway Magazine Modelling, the model have a die-cast metal running plate, the boiler, body cab and sidetanks are plastic moldings,model weight total is 175 gram. A coreless motor is setteld in the boiler between the chimney and dome The review model seems to have to many spokes 14 instead of the 12 as it should be, hopefully the production model have not. Hope this will help Edited October 27, 2019 by Cor-onGRT4 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Cor-onGRT4 said: A coreless motor That'll set the hares running! P Edited October 27, 2019 by Porcy Mane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cor-onGRT4 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Porcy Mane said: That'll set the Hares running! P According Hornby's magazine review a coreless motor in boiler, Railway Magazine is speaking over a smooth- running motor, no mention about a coreless motor, so what will it be than? We have to rely on the reviews Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Cor-onGRT4 said: We have to rely on the reviews Or confirmation one way or the other from Bachmann. With there being some resistance from certain parts of the model railway fraternity to coreless motors due to their supposed incompatibility with some types of legacy feed back controllers, I'd have thought Bachmann would have stressed to reviewers what type of motor it used. I'm sure warranty returns with popped motors due to folks using old controllers is something Bachmann will be aware of. For what it's worth I've seen a good few coreless motors running quite satisfactorily on feedback controllers. P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad McCann Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Isn’t Resistance the problem anyway..? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 On 26/10/2019 at 17:52, Compound2632 said: That makes sense. I was thinking that at 4 mm/ft the E1's drivers would be a little on the small side for anything look-alike. A J72 carves up into the ex-GER J67/69 reasonably well. The Worsdell connection. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 On 27/10/2019 at 12:45, Cor-onGRT4 said: According Hornby's magazine review a coreless motor in boiler, Railway Magazine is speaking over a smooth- running motor, no mention about a coreless motor, so what will it be than? We have to rely on the reviews Model Rail has just arrived on my phone. “Motor type: Sealed can,” it says and there is a picture of a nice, chunky motor inside the body. Phew! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floreat Industria Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 The Bachmann site is now showing 31-060 LNER lined black 2313 in the "latest arrivals" list 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43078shildoncountydurham Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Sorry chaps are any of these DARLO built? Thanks as always for your time Craig Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted December 3, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, 43078shildoncountydurham said: Sorry chaps are any of these DARLO built? Thanks as always for your time Craig See here and here. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floreat Industria Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 19 hours ago, 43078shildoncountydurham said: Sorry chaps are any of these DARLO built? Of the four new Bachmann locos, details are as follows:- 2173 (BR 68690) built Darlington 1914* 68696 (NER 2179) built Darlington 1914 2313 (BR 68720) built Armstrong Whitworth 1922 68733 (NER 2326) built Armstrong Whitworth 1922 *fantasy livery based on photographic grey works photo I was born and brought up in Darlington and never came across the expression Darlo, which seems common today! Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Hayter Posted December 4, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 4, 2019 Darlo was in use 30years ago when I lived nearby. Possibly a Radio Tees invention. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) Darlo is the nickname of the football club. I've never heard anyone call them The Quakers. Even though it's on the badge. Does remind me a bit about Parmo's though. I've have a Parmo in Darlo. Jason Edited December 6, 2019 by Steamport Southport Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted December 6, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Steamport Southport said: Darlo is the nickname of the football club. I've never heard anyone call them The Quakers. Even though it's on the badge. With the greatest respect to the Society of Friends, I really don't think "The Quakers" really gives the impression one wants from one's favourite team. "Oop the Baggies", I sez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 I just think of oats. Surprising how many football clubs had religious starts. Also quite a few works teams such as Newton Heath L&YR, but I won't mention what they became... Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 48 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: Also quite a few works teams such as Newton Heath L&YR, but I won't mention what they became... I'm united with you on that. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Brit70053 Posted December 7, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 7, 2019 Darlington were certainly referred to as 'The Quakers' in the 1960s Local press and on North East TV Sunday Football programme 'Shoot'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floreat Industria Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Yes, it was always "The Quakers" in my day, but that was a long time ago when they were at Feethams and trolleybuses used to queue outside the ground for the end . I was taken to a match when I was about 5. I remember being interested in the turnstile and being glad when it was half time so we could go home! I haven't been to another match since. When I was pushed in my pram to see the trains on the ECML next to Stephenson's works they were still LNER. My grandmother was a Quaker. A different world. Returning to the thread, I wonder how long the first J72 will take to get to the shops and whether the other three will follow closely. All four say "December" on the dealer's list. I loved the Darlington station pilots and have an early film I took of one shunting a parcels van as an A3 comes in on the "Queen of Scots". 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Derails Models Posted December 9, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 31-061 by Derails Models, on Flickr Beautiful and quiet little runner, very smooth. Weighs in at 175 grams, so quite weighty for its size. Edited December 9, 2019 by Derails Models 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Moss Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Lovely little model but ouch! at the price. £105.99 at Kernow and that's with some discount on RRP. The Hornby new tooling Terrier in comparison being available for £35 less! Can see these sitting on the shelves for a while! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Chariot Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Can anyone outline the detail differences between the original class members of J72s built way back from 1898 and the later 1950s build 69001 - 69028 Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted December 10, 2019 Administrators Share Posted December 10, 2019 12 hours ago, Sam Moss said: Lovely little model but ouch! at the price. £105.99 at Kernow and that's with some discount on RRP. The Hornby new tooling Terrier in comparison being available for £35 less! Can see these sitting on the shelves for a while! Surely that depends on whether you want a specific loco for your layout of just any tank engine. If your layout needs a J72, then your options are buy Bachmann, use an old model or kitbuild. Likewise, if you need a Terrier, it wouldn't matter what the price is, you have to buy a Terrier from Hornby or Rails. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted December 10, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Sun Chariot said: Can anyone outline the detail differences between the original class members of J72s built way back from 1898 and the later 1950s build 69001 - 69028 Bob The very basic difference is that the 1950s locos, in fact all the locos built from 1914 onwards, had extended rear frames and 6" longer bunker than the 20 engines built 1898/9 - hence the Bachmann and Mainline models are not suitable for these nineteenth century engines without major surgery. The 1898/9 locos had Ramsbottom safety valves with brass "trumpet" covers; the 1914 locos had Ross pop safety valves; subsequent boiler changes and renewals mixed things up a bit. Likewise buffers varied over time. I've just re-read the J72 section of Locomotives of the LNER Part 8B (RCTS, 1983) but am still confused about what safety valves the BR-built engines were given from new - I have the impression that there may have been a reversion to Ramsbottom valves and trumpet cover? In short, the RTR model does not represent the first 20 engines, in BR-speak, 68670-68689. Edited December 10, 2019 by Compound2632 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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