Andy Y Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Time to split the 7mm model out into a separate topic I think. Decorated samples of the O gauge model have been received; it's certainly an impressively weighty model but beautifully free-running. Love the end details! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giles Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Thanks Andy - I missed these....... but I've put one on order now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted August 16, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 16, 2017 it's certainly an impressively weighty model but beautifully free-running. Someone should ask Andy or should it be Tomy how he knows they are free running... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadnought05 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Fantastic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 All final production samples now received at Hatton's: http://www.hattons.co.uk/NewsDetail.aspx?id=181&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=FacebookOGaugeWarwellFinalProds 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hattons Dave Posted November 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 17, 2017 Morning All, As some of you have already spotted, we've received final production samples for the O Gauge Warwells. They're looking just as good as the OO versions that were launched earlier this year. These are due to leave the factory in the next few days and will be arriving with us during w/c 8th January 2018. Here's some photos showing all 10 Production samples. H7-WW-701 - Warwell wagon 50t with diamond frame bogies MS.1 in War Department livery (GWR) H7-WW-702 - Warwell wagon 50t with diamond frame bogies WW.55 in War Department livery (LMS) H7-WW-703 - Warwell wagon 50t with diamond frame bogies WW36 in War Department livery (LNER) H7-WW-704 - Warwell wagon 50t with diamond frame bogies MODA95560 in MOD 1970s olive H7-WW-705 - Warwell wagon 50t with diamond frame bogies M360333 in BR grey H7-WW-706 - Warwell wagon 50t with diamond frame bogies M360329 in BR gulf red H7-WW-707 - Warwell wagon 50t with diamond frame bogies ADRW96501 in BR engineers yellow H7-WW-708 - Warwell wagon 50t with Gloucester GPS bogies MODA95511 in MOD 1970s olive H7-WW-709 - Warwell wagon 50t with Gloucester GPS bogies MODA95537 in MOD 1990s olive H7-WW-710 - Warwell wagon 50t with Gloucester GPS bogies MODA95536 in MOD 2000s olive All 10 are still available to pre-order for £85 each on THIS page. Cheers, Dave 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) I just noticed that Hattons are showing these on their new items page. Now, question is, besides military use, what did BR in the early 60s use these for? I like the gulf red version but I think this was a short lived livery. John Edited January 9, 2018 by brossard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I just noticed that Hattons are showing these on their new items page. Now, question is, besides military use, what did BR in the early 60s use these for? I like the gulf red version but I think this was a short lived livery. John I'm not bothered myself, nice looking wagon, rule 1 John My H7-WW-705 - Warwell wagon 50t with diamond frame bogies M360333 in BR grey is on order, so should have it by weekend. Jinty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I probably should get one, the grey version seems to be about right. Gulf Red is attractive and fits my era, it seems to have been for Engineering stock. It would be nice to have a bit of background on civilian use. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I just noticed that Hattons are showing these on their new items page. Now, question is, besides military use, what did BR in the early 60s use these for? I like the gulf red version but I think this was a short lived livery. John The Gulf Red livery may only have been applied for a couple of years, but vehicles painted in it would survive into the 1980s. The Warwells themselves would have been used for heavy/bulky loads, such as precast concrete culvert sections from Taunton Exmouth Jct and Castleton Precast Concrete Works, as well as being adapted with decks and bolsters (to carry rails) or HIAB-type cranes for use by the Power Supply teams of the M&EE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Harvey Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Any one want a Warrior Transport Cradle in 7mm? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedman Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Ah . Just ordered the two green ones with GPS as the yellow ended ones are wrong and then came on here and seen Pete's post!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 (edited) For those worried about time periods of the liveries Many are based on my photos – yes I am declaring an interest: H7 WW 704 http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/?q=moda95560 Post war condition, diamond bogie in 1980 H7 WW 705 http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/?q=m360333 Post war condition, diamond bogie in departmental use as ex boiler carrier 1977 - 1982 H7 WW 706 http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/?q=m360329 Post war condition, diamond bogie in departmental use as ex boiler carrier 1977 M360333 & M360329 The final LMR wagons retained their original features, although the diagram shows they had some wooden blocks which are not on the model. These were LMS diagram special 133F for Loco boilers and tenders. There were 12 of these M360329 - 340. My diagram is stamped 5 July 1949. I have a number of photos of this example, including http://PaulBartlett....rwell/e8d5c2150 in 1979. I have others of this batch in the collection, H7 WW 707 http://www.ontrackplant.com/otp/96501 Post war condition, diamond bogie in departmental use The crane this requires is absent. H7 WW 708 http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/?q=moda95511 Modernised with air brake and new bogie and carrying a new bogie in 1977 H7 WW 709 http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/?q=moda95537 Modernised with air brake and new bogie 1991 H7 WW 710 http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/?q=moda95536 Modernised with air brake and new bogie 1983 NOTE the model is of a later repaint – there are similar repaints on my website. The MOD retained a good fleet of these wagons and added new bogies, air brake and sometimes other features. The earliest I saw such a conversion was spring 1977 http://PaulBartlett....rwell/e8d555a38 So the number series of the conversions is only findable from the spotters books which give diagram numbers for individual wagons. Earlier photographs and a drawing are a: http://www.railalbum.co.uk/railway-wagons/military/ww2-50-ton-warwell-1.htm http://www.railalbum.co.uk/railway-wagons/military/ww2-50-ton-warwell-2.htm Although there are models with the early finishes H7 WW 701 - 702 703 the floor of the model is completely planked and this is not original condition. These models are only the beginning of what can be done; there were many more uses including many as bogie bolster Bs. The 4mm market has these available, so please press Hattons to do them for 7mm – far more useful in my opinion and we are very short of bogie bolster models! Some of these alternative uses can be seen at http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/warwell There is a considerable amount of information under the 4mm discussion about the Hattons wagons http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/115836-50t-warwell-wagon-in-oo-gauge On http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/115836-50t-warwell-wagon-in-oo-gauge/page-17?hl=%20hattons%20%20warwell I have provided a history of many of the conversions in posts 414 and 415. Many date back to the turn of Nationalisation, both as boiler wagons - as now modelled by Hattons and also as various designs of bolster and borail wagons. Paul Edited January 10, 2018 by hmrspaul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 (edited) , The Warrior Transport Cradle modification only has plate to the side of the buffer, not over the buffers. http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/modawarwell/e8d5c2faa This shows how the additional side plate merges into the side before the drop into the well. http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/modawarwell/e8d5c3467 Paul AS PETE HARVEY POINTS OUT THE LINKS DO NOT WORK. I HAVE NO IDEA WHY NOT & TRYING TO REPLACE THEM DOESN'T WORK. BASICALLY IN THE MODAWARWELL COLLECTION THERE ARE SOME PHOTOS TAKEN AT SCUNTHORPE STEELWORKS WHICH SHOW TWO OF THESE WAGONS, ONE ON TOP OF THE OTHER, WITH ONE SHOWING THE MODIFICATION AND THE OTHER NOT. PAUL Edited January 10, 2018 by hmrspaul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 And if you wondered what the boiler-carriers carried after boilers...Diesel engines and associated generators. Derby became what would be called a 'Centre of Excellence' these days for the overhaul of diesel engines. These were taken to other BREL works, and also to the various Level 5 depots. Someone (possibly Pete Harvey?) has done some models of loco power units in 4mm; perhaps they could be done in 7mm? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Harvey Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 The modification only has plate to the side of the buffer, not over the buffers. http://PaulBartlett....rwell/e8d5c2faa This shows how the additional side plate merges into the side before the drop into the well. http://PaulBartlett....rwell/e8d5c3467 Paul Paul The posted links do not work and I have not a clue of what you ate trying to explain? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
houseman Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 i have just got the engineers yellow one but was surprised to see it has no markings anyone know what hattons based it on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 i have just got the engineers yellow one but was surprised to see it has no markings anyone know what hattons based it on? I heard it was one used by the Power Supply section on the SR; the markings were carried on the body side, which hasn't been modelled. I'd hope the Paul Bartlett site might have some photos, but I couldn't find anything. http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/warwell does, however, have a wide selection of other modified wagons, such as twin-jib tracklaying cranes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 (edited) i have just got the engineers yellow one but was surprised to see it has no markings anyone know what hattons based it on? To repeat the info given earlier H7 WW 707 http://www.ontrackplant.com/otp/96501 Post war condition, diamond bogie in departmental use The crane this requires is absent. Ex-DS3150 - now in use on Swanage Railway. http://www.ws.vintagecarriagestrust.org/ws/WagonInfo.asp?Ref=10191 Paul Edited January 11, 2018 by hmrspaul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Hi all, just ordered 10 for my part MOD train. Will be a wee bit heavy with all the Military loads on them once they are all chained down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mevaman Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Any one want a Warrior Transport Cradle in 7mm? SH102030s.jpg I’d like several in 00. Are you planning any Pete? Andrew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Harvey Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Yes Andrew Both 4mm & 7mm will be added to my site soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Hi all I done these in 4mm for a few customers. Still taking orders for them to be honest. I will be replicating them in 7mm with some extra detail on them. Please attached some 4mm items and some 7mm scorpion tanks which will be loaded on to the 7mm version 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mevaman Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Yes Andrew Both 4mm & 7mm will be added to my site soon. Pete, you’ve just made my morning! Andrew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 (edited) I heard it was one used by the Power Supply section on the SR; the markings were carried on the body side, which hasn't been modelled. I'd hope the Paul Bartlett site might have some photos, but I couldn't find anything. http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/warwell does, however, have a wide selection of other modified wagons, such as twin-jib tracklaying cranes. Yes - it had a folding hi-ab crane - 5t capacity ISTR ? - was a very useful bit of kit - last job I utilised it for was to put the vent lids on the transformer rectifiers modules at Farringdon substation in the confines of the old Smithfield market siding area - a scary 27 years ago !! Edited January 12, 2018 by Southernman46 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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