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To repeat the info given earlier

 

H7 WW 707 http://www.ontrackplant.com/otp/96501 Post war condition, diamond bogie in departmental use The crane this requires is absent.

 

Ex-DS3150 - now in use on Swanage Railway.  http://www.ws.vintagecarriagestrust.org/ws/WagonInfo.asp?Ref=10191

 

Paul

thanks paul useful info as ever but i was hoping for a as suppiledby hattons  wagon thanksanyhow houseman

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thanks paul useful info as ever but i was hoping for a as suppiledby hattons  wagon thanksanyhow houseman

I don't know why Hattons have produced it like that, as can be seen it went to conservation still with the crane intact and as mentioned above it had this for many years.

 

Paul

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I promised to post some photos once I had unpacked mine. Both are of the LMR wagons which retained their original features, although the diagram shows they had some wooden blocks which are not on the model. These were LMS diagram special 133F for Loco boilers and tenders. There were 12 of these M360329 - 340. My diagram is stamped 5 July 1949.

 

Essery, R, J, (1983) An illustrated history of LMS Wagons, Volume 2, Oxford Publishing Co. SBN 86093 255-9. 192 pages is interesting in how little Bob knew of these wagons! However, there is a nice photo from 1964 with one loaded with a large boiler.

 

The model is very neat. The screw couplings work - beware when delivered they are only just screwed on and the final link easily falls off. Like the 4mm version, the bogies appear too narrow. The wheels are smaller than standard wagon wheels, which is correct. Not unexpectedly to me, the chaining rings are moulded in - one of my friends thought they should have been made working but I suspect this would have been expensive as there are 14 rings of two shapes!

 

H7 WW 705 M360333 Post war condition, diamond bogie in departmental use as ex boiler carrier 1977 - 1982 Hattons used several of my photos for guidance http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/?q=m360333
By 1977 it appears to have been a permanent fixture in Derby works - and by 1982 they had formally renumbered it into the internal user fleet. 024332. The unusual font is reproduced well. On the model the jacks and additional safety chains are retained.

 

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Paul Bartlett

 

 

 

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The other is H7 WW 706 M360329 Post war condition, diamond bogie in departmental use as ex boiler carrier. This version, correctly, has the end jacks removed. The model claims to be Gulf red, and this is what it should be, but the model is a bauxite. Gulf red is a stronger red than bauxite - Dave Larkin refers to it as Indian red and although Gulf is the BR official description Indian red may be a more understandable name. This is the photo they used http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/warwell/e8d5c2150 not very good, but the darker red is obvious in comparison with M360332 which is in BR freight stock red (bauxite) http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/warwell/e1e2bf7e5

 

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I've wondered how people cope with tethered loads in layout operation.  The wagon comes in loaded and leaves the same way - seems odd to me but I'm blessed if I can see a way around it short of having an empty duplicate.

 

John

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In this case could you could glue some of those miniature high power magnets under the deck at chain mounting points and use steel chain?

With care they could be made to pull really tight yet easy to lift the whole thing off (and easy to re-load and get chains taut again).

The wagon could prove useful in lifting unwanted ferrous particles off the track at the same time!

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The quality of the warwell body detail is simply excellent - really pleased with purchase.

 

In terms of rivet detail, would anyone having an example of both dare to offer a comparison with the Darstaed well wagon?  I was tempted by the well wagon too, but the rivet / bolt head detail appears to be far too heavy, as does the thickness of the frame girder top / bottom flanges (might just be a visual thing).

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Mine arrived today, see Pauls post because mine is the same.  I found the planking that goes underneath in the shipping box not the model box so you'll want to beware of that.  I also found half a coupling in the box so I refitted it and applied thread lock loctite to stop it coming off again.  I'm not that bothered about working couplings - is anyone seriously going to wind these tight during layout operation?

 

John

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Built the load for mine this weekend....Tamiya kit with nice die-cast chassis.

 

Details, light weathering and numbers to add.

 

To be paired with LMS version, does anyone know of a good source for chains?

 

Neal

 

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