RMweb Premium ColinK Posted August 20, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 20, 2017 Did they carry any other liveries, especially when first built? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Did they carry any other liveries, especially when first built? Nope, these were IIRC the first wagons outshopped in Dutch from day one. Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Am I just being blind or have they not said who is producing them for Kernow? I wonder the same too. I think KMRC own the tooling and probably DJM did it for them. Would imagine its DJ Models. Have e-mailed Dapol to see if they are going to continue with their Turbot (suppose it will depend on how far they are with tooling and the levels of pre-orders, but I am hoping so). Personally, the Turbot's underframe detail looks 'bulky' to me and after having FTG SPA's from the DJ Stable, not too keen. My preference would have been for DJ and Kernow to have focused on getting some of their other projects to fruition. Regards, Agree... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mevaman Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I sometimes have to smile at the conjecture! Just ask Kernow if you want to know who owns the tooling and produced the models. They can tell you if they wish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted August 20, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 20, 2017 I sometimes have to smile at the conjecture! Just ask Kernow if you want to know who owns the tooling and produced the models. They can tell you if they wish. Where's the fun in that? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbox321 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I sometimes have to smile at the conjecture! Just ask Kernow if you want to know who owns the tooling and produced the models. They can tell you if they wish. Its hardly rocket science to work it out!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted August 20, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 20, 2017 My god a simple statement and ww3 erupts. I'm not desperate to know, I was merely saying I wonder as the article doesn't state. It's not Life or death that I find out. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Did they carry any other liveries, especially when first built? Nope, these were IIRC the first wagons outshopped in Dutch from day one. Jon as http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brturbot/e8e8a4c11 Paul PS another reason they got in such a mess, used as a roadway - http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brturbot/e19e460b6 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 There are of course other wagons to be made , but this is a numerous one that they think will sell . Emphasis on the sell bit ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 In the OP there is a photo of an EWS YCV with roller bearing axleboxes. Could anyone say whether these were a BR or EWS fitment, please. Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 In the OP there is a photo of an EWS YCV with roller bearing axleboxes. Could anyone say whether these were a BR or EWS fitment, please. Regards The Bolster Es, which supplied the chassis for these wagons, were built with roller-bearings. By the time they were built (very early 1960s), most new wagons of over 20t capacity were being built with roller-bearings, and older wagons were being retro-fitted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempfix Rich Papper Posted August 29, 2017 Tempfix Share Posted August 29, 2017 I e-mailed Kernow about weathered versions and underframe trussing. They say weathered versions have been considered but are dependent on sales of these ones, and as for the underframe trussing they have assured me that the model has been based on measurements of the real thing and the difference apparent in the model (dutch) and real (EWS) ones is just because of the angle the photograph is taken from. OK RMWeb? Aaaaaannnndd....GO: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Nah - trusses definitely not correct - the gap between the bottom of the vee-hanger and the bottom truss member is simply far, far, too large - and the vee hanger looks long enough (about twice the distance the VB cylinder hangs down below solebar level - so the truss depth must be too large and the whole underframe looks wrong because of it And I do WANT to be proved wrong ............. but don't think I am Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMinion Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Nah - trusses definitely not correct - the gap between the bottom of the vee-hanger and the bottom truss member is simply far, far, too large - and the vee hanger looks long enough (about twice the distance the VB cylinder hangs down below solebar level - so the truss depth must be too large and the whole underframe looks wrong because of it And I do WANT to be proved wrong ............. but don't think I am Its definately quite a bit off. Kernow would be better to acowlege the error than try to convince postential customers they are wrong. It's a bit too big for my interests but given the availability of a decent kit in the same scale it would be a none starter for me I'm afraid. If this isn't the Dapol one and has been produced by someone else then I would urge Dapol to carry on with theirs anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMinion Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Add in, while the trussing catches the eye, the sides look far too low relief as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybuttterworth1962 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 (edited) I'm still in 2 minds - I would like to see one in the flesh Here is YCW Turbot DB978804 in Truro yard 30th Aug '86 Edited September 3, 2017 by andybuttterworth1962 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 I wonder the same too. I think KMRC own the tooling and probably DJM did it for them. Agree... Looking at the Bullied diesels, Kernow are quite capable of doing it themselves. Likewise Hattons just did their own Warwells with snow ploughs to follow soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Up front payment is not mandatory, and Kernow do allow you to save up credit to then pay for items. I have over £1K of items pre-paid and am more than happy as they can all come at once and I won't care. Roy Personally I am not prepared to go more than 3 items pre payed at any one time. At the moment I have 1Stirling single, 1 Bullied diesel and 1 class 74 fully pre payed. The Bullied being the last item added. Doubtless when the Bullied comes out soon, it will be time to pre pay 10202. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted September 4, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 4, 2017 Personally I am not prepared to go more than 3 items pre payed at any one time. At the moment I have 1Stirling single, 1 Bullied diesel and 1 class 74 fully pre payed. The Bullied being the last item added. Doubtless when the Bullied comes out soon, it will be time to pre pay 10202. Indeed, my comment was, however, made in the light of another post suggesting pre-payment was needed. There is a benefit in paying up front, but you don't have to do so. Roy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard60098 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 These look ok, i prefer the Cambrian version as i like to bash kits! But yeh i'll buy a couple. When wil be the release date any idea's? Xmas 2018? lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted September 24, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 24, 2017 Next stop a Bogie Bolster E? Please! Pretty please? Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richp1976 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Are these due this year? Has anybody heard anything recently - especially since Dapol have confirmed theirs are going to be produced?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 I just checked Kernow's website & it still states 4th Quarter 2017. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) Pretty please? Phil Sorry just seen the dates but just in case ........................ http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/128023-kernow-commission-bogie-bolster-e/?hl=%2Bbolster+%2Bkernow and the turbot centre truss depth on the model shown so far is definitely too low .......................... Edited December 22, 2017 by Southernman46 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium SHerr Posted January 8, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 8, 2018 I've been looking at Kernows website as was wondering about ordering a couple of these. Is it me or does the NEM coupler socket appear to be the wrong height? the coupling appears to have a large crank. It doesn't appear to have been discussed on these pages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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