Bachmann Class 45

[Tim Hall]

24 minutes ago, Derails Models said:

 

Sorry Tim....there's 94xx's to follow in the New Year too....

 

At the moment we don't accept limbs for payment but we could add that option online if required? 

I wouldn't have a leg to stand on..

 

 

[47423]

4 hours ago, Derails Models said:

In a surprise twist, I've just been notified that the first of the sales area limited edition 45's have arrived at Barwell! As you know they were originally expected in January of next year however their early arrival is a nice Christmas present. 

 

Speaking of Christmas, that will probably mess up the deliveries of these to your local retailers, quite when they will be arriving in stores is anyone's guess, but we could be lucky and get them before the big day!

 

Here's the Wales, West Midlands, West England & Ireland model, 45040:

 

Excellent news, be a nice birthday present or 2 :-) 

[owentherail]

7 hours ago, Derails Models said:

 

Sorry Tim....there's 94xx's to follow in the New Year too....

 

At the moment we don't accept limbs for payment but we could add that option online if required? 

Good,  I've one on preorder with you. 

[acg5324]

The reps special class 45s are due at Monk Bar Models in York tomorrow along with the EFE class 58s.

[amarr40]

Why does the cost vary so much on these from region to region? Kernow being the most expensive.

[PJ10]

31 minutes ago, amarr40 said:

Why does the cost vary so much on these from region to region? Kernow being the most expensive.

Evening amarr40,

 

As I understand it, the thinking expressed at the time when the Reps Limited Editions were first introduced (early 2017 I think) was that it would encourage people to buy from lesser known retailers in different areas, not just the “box shifters”. Also, the bigger shops were encouraged not to heavily discount the models, again trying to level the playing field and encourage purchases from other shops. It could be that some are still honouring this whilst others are not. Assuming of course that there was an agreement on not discounting in the first place.

 

PJ10

[amarr40]

8 minutes ago, PJ10 said:

Evening amarr40,

 

As I understand it, the thinking expressed at the time when the Reps Limited Editions were first introduced (early 2017 I think) was that it would encourage people to buy from lesser known retailers in different areas, not just the “box shifters”. Also, the bigger shops were encouraged not to heavily discount the models, again trying to level the playing field and encourage purchases from other shops. It could be that some are still honouring this whilst others are not. Assuming of course that there was an agreement on not discounting in the first place.

 

PJ10

thank you, that helps explain the regional difference.

[Butler Henderson]

Could be Bachmann have upped the price since the May 2019 announcement and others have not reacted as yet. Given Kernow did not virtually double the price of the Hornby L&M open coach unlike others the I would expect they are quoting the price they are now being given by Bachmann.

 

45040 incidentally is being offered for £135 by Trainstop of Knighton on ebay. None of the others have yet appeared on their.

Edited December 23, 2020 by Butler Henderson

[acg5324]

http://www.monkbarmodelshop.co.uk/index.php?route=product/search&filter_name=32-683RJ

 

32-632RJ 45022 Lytham St Anne’s is the rep special at Monk Bar Models, some sound fitted too.

Edited December 23, 2020 by acg5324

[Butler Henderson]

Noted another supplier quoting £159.95 as Bachmanns price so it does look like they have gone up and in which case, assuming the 15% initial discount limit applies, then £135.96 is the price below which annoyances might be issued by Barwell to a retailer.

[aureol40012]

35 minutes ago, Butler Henderson said:

Noted another supplier quoting £159.95 as Bachmanns price so it does look like they have gone up and in which case, assuming the 15% initial discount limit applies, then £135.96 is the price below which annoyances might be issued by Barwell to a retailer.

Antics have 45040 for £123.20........

[Butler Henderson]

38 minutes ago, aureol40012 said:

Antics have 45040 for £123.20........

Which is 15% off the price quoted by Bachmann in May 2019

[aureol40012]

27 minutes ago, Butler Henderson said:

Which is 15% off the price quoted by Bachmann in May 2019

Not sure what point you are making? 

[grimytimes]

We have 45022 Lytham St Annes in stock selling at £135.95 and £212.45 for the sound fitted version

[Butler Henderson]

1 hour ago, aureol40012 said:

Not sure what point you are making? 

That Bachmann normally impose a maximum 15% discount limit.

[adb968008]

look into my eyes....

 

Santa has just arrived...

 

 

Swapped his sleigh for DPD..

 

 

Arriving from Toton via Coleford

 

overnight from Derails in time for Christmas

[Phil Bullock]

Nice to see wire handrails on the front rather than previous moulded ones

[adb968008]

1 hour ago, Phil Bullock said:

Nice to see wire handrails on the front rather than previous moulded ones

Its a few improvements on top of 45048...

Plated over roof access steps are rivetted, boiler port grill covered, and painted cab hand rails.

 

oh and I missed the obvious big one...

correct shape nose grill, with a basic imprint cover of the access plate, which is much less obtrusive.

 

P
 

The grills and panels are looking good too..

as does the roof..

 

it appears to have just been withdrawn, as 58017 just arrived too..

 

Overall impressed, only gripe is the missed opportunity to make it 6 axle drive instead of 4, but this is a good model, long overdue, roll on a 45/1 with headlight.

 

I think 45022 is going to be the winner in this batch, 45022 being a Lancashire and Yorkshire passenger regular until its end, and being the last loco on the Waverley route earlier in its life.

https://www.derbysulzers.com/45022.html

 

45041 looks a good bet too, its preserved and moved around quite a lot in preservation.

https://www.gcrailway.co.uk/the-railway/locomotives/45041-2/

 

 

Good choice 45040, never got an orange stripe or head light, withdrawn 07/1987, came back as 97412 until 08/1988

Edited December 24, 2020 by adb968008

[birdbath]

Evening all.

 

Has anyone got hold of a sound fitted version yet?  And if so, can you tell me what sound chip is fitted?  Maybe one for any retailers on here to answer?

 

Seasonal greetings to you all.

 

Roge.

[96701]

3 hours ago, adb968008 said:

Its a few improvements on top of 45048...

Plated over roof access steps are rivetted, boiler port grill covered, and painted cab hand rails.

 

oh and I missed the obvious big one...

correct shape nose grill, with a basic imprint cover of the access plate, which is much less obtrusive.

 

P
 

The grills and panels are looking good too..

as does the roof..

 

it appears to have just been withdrawn, as 58017 just arrived too..

 

Overall impressed, only gripe is the missed opportunity to make it 6 axle drive instead of 4, but this is a good model, long overdue, roll on a 45/1 with headlight.

 

I think 45022 is going to be the winner in this batch, 45022 being a Lancashire and Yorkshire passenger regular until its end, and being the last loco on the Waverley route earlier in its life.

https://www.derbysulzers.com/45022.html

 

45041 looks a good bet too, its preserved and moved around quite a lot in preservation.

https://www.gcrailway.co.uk/the-railway/locomotives/45041-2/

 

 

Good choice 45040, never got an orange stripe or head light, withdrawn 07/1987, came back as 97412 until 08/1988

I'm holding out for the Heljan unnumbered version. I already have the nameplates and the numbers for 60 which is how I remebered it when it was a Holbeck loco.

[andyman7]

I've somehow succumbed to ordering both 45040 and 45022. Must be that pent up desire for a 1980s era Peak. No doubt I'll end up with at leats one Heljan example in due course too. For various reasons Lytham St Anne was one of the celebrities of the fleet.

[adb968008]

12 hours ago, 96701 said:

I'm holding out for the Heljan unnumbered version. I already have the nameplates and the numbers for 60 which is how I remebered it when it was a Holbeck loco.

I was thinking tonight of doing a 45059 (F&W copy pit railtour of 1987, replacing 40122) , but on examining, one point of note, the printed nameplate print is raised against the body.

 

 

i haven't seen this before.

Removing the nameplate may not be straight forwards. I cant tell if its a well applied transfer (more likely) but its not a straight forwards tampo print, though a tampo print is on top of the raised finish.

 

in the parts bag is a 2 part nameplate consisting of backing plate and plate for the letters as per the real thing.

 

 

 

Edited December 25, 2020 by adb968008

[owentherail]

How many of these Reps Ltd edition 45s are out there ?

I'm guessing they are all names sadly 

['CHARD]

10 minutes ago, owentherail said:

How many of these Reps Ltd edition 45s are out there ?

I'm guessing they are all names sadly 

 

There are four different running numbers , one appropriate to each regional rep.  And yes they're all namers, with the names relevant to each sales region. 

 

 

[Butler Henderson]

52 minutes ago, 'CHARD said:

 

There are four different running numbers , one appropriate to each regional rep.  And yes they're all namers, with the names relevant to each sales region. 

Actually five

 

 

32-683RJ / 32-683RJSF – 45022 ‘Lytham St. Annes’ 

32-684DB / 32-684DBSF – 45040 ‘The King’s Shropshire Light Infantry’ 

32-685SD / 32-685SDSF –  45041 ‘Royal Tank Regiment’ 

32-686NF / 32-686NFSF - 45046 ‘Royal Fusilier’ 

32-687TL / 32-687TLSF - 45049 ‘The Staffordshire Regiment (The Prince of Wales’s)'