RMweb Gold Popular Post pheaton Posted January 3, 2021 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2021 Someone was asking what brackets were missing.....so while doing some essential winter maintenance i took some shots.... and differences between a 0 and 1 No 1 end and its buffer beam pipe work We will start with No1 one end B Side nearest camera, fuel filler valve, followed by the radiator Drain/filer followed by 1 of 4 external bogie retainers, followed by speedometer drive, followed by the engine water filler/drain, followed by the oil filler. (note the different bearing suppliers for No1 axle and No3 axle (timken and SKF) Further down, Battery boxes and gravity catches each of the 4 boxes contains 24 cells, the tanks below were added during dual brake conversion, the two orange boxes are the centre point tappings for the batteries (required for the lighting) which is split into two 110v circuits and the control emergency switch (which used to allow the cubicle to run from a battery supply) also present on the right hand side of the tanks is the check valve for the engine room compressor. Note the missing sandboxes on the outer ends of the bogies. Above we have the hatch for the charge circuits, and light switch, as well as jump start terminals! Further down...the external BIS Pull lifting bracket attachment points, fire alarm PULL, bogie retention bracket no2, urinal cistern filler another lifting bracket attachment, and finally the white pipe is vacuum pipework. No2 end A Side....note the different headcode panel 149 was unique in that it had different ends due to an accident at this point of its life... going forward lifiting bracket, urinal cistern filler, fire alarm pull another bracket Close up of No2 end Further on at No2 end A side, the NON return valve for the locomotives nose end air compressor, the pipe facing down is the turbocharger breather and storm drain, the brass "whistle like object" on the white pipe is a safety valve for the main air reservoirs, outer tank and pipework is unique to a dual braked machine. battery box B side, with oil drain, and bed plate drain (out of view) Moving further up... Engine oil filler, engine water drain, Exhauster breather (peaks were synonymous with a white mist coming out of this pipe, this indicates the train they are hauling is vacuum and the exhauster (a heavy consumer of oil) is running, lifiting bracket...radiator overflow, retention bracket, and another lifiting bracket, rad filler and fuel filler, and the main vacuum pipe (like the other end) Close up of the buffer beam. ETH room roof, with the water tank fillers blanked off and covers unqiue to an ETH machine Underneath showing the arrangement of the water tanks and the bed plate water tank. the inner pairs of tanks were fitted as built, the other tanks added when dual braked. close up of the retention bracket someone mentioned about viewing the frame through the grill, its actually the back of the grill you can see....it has sections fabricated to fit between the frame, not over it. Someone mentioned the fuel tanks, well there you go Just for fun, this is where the toilet used to be, in the former (now ETH) boiler room, the outlet is all thats left of the urinal the shelf above is where the cistern sat. You can see the frame in good detail. The eth room roof internally and the original position of the water tanks...which were replaced with ballast weights on removal 12 1 1 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted January 3, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 3, 2021 What fantastic detailed photos Simon! Thanks so much for taking the effort to take them and catalogue the details..... 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted January 3, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 3, 2021 I need to stop modelling and buy a real one. its the only way to be truly accurate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted January 3, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 3, 2021 Thanks for the pictures with the really helpful explainations. The jump start terminals made me smile - we have them on our buses too. Potential for a little spoof operation. Peak sitting on your layout, you hear the sound of the battery trying and failing to turn the engine over. Out of your fiddle yard rushes a AA or RAC liveried loco which stops by the Peak with the flat battery. Jumper cables get connected between to two locos, AA/RAC loco revs up, peak bursts into life. Jumper cables disconnect, AA/RAC loco scuttles back to fiddle yard. I’ve got two Police liveried locos, perhaps I should do a RAC loco next! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 50 minutes ago, adb968008 said: I need to stop modelling and buy a real one. its the only way to be truly accurate. And as a owner you can replace with larger or smaller bolts, place rivets in new places and even weld up/remove access panels. You can give the rivet counter a massive hissy fit. At the end of the day no two loco’s are the same, you can only model the loco you prototype from. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tim Hall Posted January 3, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 3, 2021 47 minutes ago, ColinK said: Thanks for the pictures with the really helpful explainations. The jump start terminals made me smile - we have them on our buses too. Potential for a little spoof operation. Peak sitting on your layout, you hear the sound of the battery trying and failing to turn the engine over. Out of your fiddle yard rushes a AA or RAC liveried loco which stops by the Peak with the flat battery. Jumper cables get connected between to two locos, AA/RAC loco revs up, peak bursts into life. Jumper cables disconnect, AA/RAC loco scuttles back to fiddle yard. I’ve got two Police liveried locos, perhaps I should do a RAC loco next! I jump started this with a Hyundai i10..... 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 PS, nice pics Pheaton. Last peak I was in was 45112 while rescuing her from March and doing her up for the “Dark Lord H “ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted January 4, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 4, 2021 I have put some yellow Kapton tape between the lenses and LED and that has changed the colour quite nicely, just need to adjust the CV settings now to make them dimmer. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold pheaton Posted January 4, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 4, 2021 Mr P...you will show my crimes against the name plate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold pheaton Posted January 4, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, D1051 said: we were expected to outshop 45149 with a hand painted name via 3 shareholders ! But the GWR had a livery policy to adhere too so what you see conforms to the lines policy. I know that mate I was joking 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley47708 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 On 03/01/2021 at 17:17, SouthernBlue80s said: Probably a bit early doors for this question. Has anyone tried removing the nameplate and factory fitted numbers yet and renumbering one? I would be interested to find out if it is a of one where the numbers come of relatively easily. Was just going to ask the same question, I had been thinking of a Heljan one as they do unnamed ones which is what I'd prefer. If the nameplates come off the Bachmann ones I may plump for one of these. I've always found Bachmann numbers easy enough to remove so am assuming these will be the same. However there was a photo earlier with a regiment version and a mark for want of a better expression for where the Crest went. I'm guessing Lytham Saint Anne's may be the easiest to rename as there was no Crest. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
owentherail Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Waverley47708 said: Was just going to ask the same question, I had been thinking of a Heljan one as they do unnamed ones which is what I'd prefer. If the nameplates come off the Bachmann ones I may plump for one of these. I've always found Bachmann numbers easy enough to remove so am assuming these will be the same. However there was a photo earlier with a regiment version and a mark for want of a better expression for where the Crest went. I'm guessing Lytham Saint Anne's may be the easiest to rename as there was no Crest. Yeh I got 2 of 45022 for that reason ..... not done it yet tho 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) 45041 arrived this afternoon and has just done it's 2 hours running in as per the leaflet (but not the standard maintenance sheet which says only a hour). Plates are just printed on with a set of etched to fit, only one has a crest. Edited January 4, 2021 by Butler Henderson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernBlue80s Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share Posted January 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, owentherail said: Yeh I got 2 of 45022 for that reason ..... not done it yet tho Let Waverly and myself know how you get on. Hope it goes smoothly. I want two weathered banger blue unamed 45/0 s. But want to get the Bachmann model over the Heljan. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIRTY DIESEL Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 I received my sound 45040 version today, and to my untrained eyes & ears looks like a peak and sounds like one. After half an hour each way on the rolling road plus a good wheel clean (always amazes me how much crud comes off), it’s happily running around my layout. It’s also nice to see the wipers on the wheel backs unlike a few years ago with the 40, just a shame it’s only the four wheel pick up not the six. Just a few questions please, Does it have cab lights as I can’t seem to find it on the function sheet? Does anyone have the CVs numbers for headlight brightness & sound volume please? It’s my first sound loco for a good number of years & it doesn’t seem to come with the normal CV sheet with all CV values. I had to tweak the deceleration rate as it seemed to take a age to slow down. thanks Stu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Can't help with the rest but there are no cab lights Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hastings Thumper Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 hours ago, Butler Henderson said: 45041 arrived this afternoon and has just done it's 2 hours running in as per the leaflet (but not the standard maintenance sheet which says only a hour). Plates are just printed on with a set of etched to fit, only one has a crest. Just received my 45041 too - a very nice model. A question though, did 45041 run in-service with a crest on one side only as per the model ?. My photos of the preserved 45041 shows a crest on both sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIRTY DIESEL Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 55 minutes ago, andyman7 said: Can't help with the rest but there are no cab lights thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 31 minutes ago, Hastings Thumper said: Just received my 45041 too - a very nice model. A question though, did 45041 run in-service with a crest on one side only as per the model ?. My photos of the preserved 45041 shows a crest on both sides. Looks to be missing the crest in this photo on Flickr 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold pheaton Posted January 5, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 5, 2021 Do these new peaks still only pick up from 2 axles? or has that been improved? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted January 5, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, pheaton said: Do these new peaks still only pick up from 2 axles? or has that been improved? Going by some of the above posts it’s still only two axles. Did you get yours sorted? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyneux Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 The pick-ups are on 4 axles (2 per bogie). Guy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted January 5, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 5, 2021 34 minutes ago, D1051 said: the said crests were separate from the cast plate and in later years were prone to falling off I had a fairly quick look for photos of 45040 and I couldn't find any of it carrying crests when it had the sealed-beam front, making the model as offered by Bachmann right. Other 45s will vary of course, and somebody will no no doubt point me to a photo of 45040 with crests . Roy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIAM Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Roy Langridge said: I had a fairly quick look for photos of 45040 and I couldn't find any of it carrying crests when it had the sealed-beam front, making the model as offered by Bachmann right. Other 45s will vary of course, and somebody will no no doubt point me to a photo of 45040 with crests . Roy 040 seems to have had a strange history with its nameplates. As you say it appears to have lost its crests by the late 70's and then the nameplates themselved after overhaul c. May 84 only for a nameplate with crest to reappear on one side only by September 84? (assuming the Flickr photograph dates are correct) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aureol40012 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Fox (smaller) vs Bachmann (larger). Question is, which one is more accurate?! Bachmann one placed on model for test fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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