Bachmann Class 45

[DavidM]

Tons of replica class 45/1's and early class 46's out there.

Bachmanns current 'Peak' body is in a different league

[robertcwp]

Bachmanns current 'Peak' body is in a different league

I agree, the old Mainline/Replica one was a poor misshapen model. Bachmann's one is vastly better.

[Covkid]

I agree, the old Mainline/Replica one was a poor misshapen model. Bachmann's one is vastly better.

 

 

Totally Robert. The current Bachmann BR/Sulzer bodyshell is streets ahead of the predecessor in it's "face". The nose and cab windows are the wrong shape and the characature windscreen frames just do not do it for me. There is a well known North Wales based "blue 80s" layout here in RMweb, which has some lovely locos. But then I see the old Mainline 45 and I wince !!!

Edited August 31, 2017 by Covkid

[50030]

I asked the Bachmann rep at DEMU show if we could have some sealed beam peaks, I added that as they seem to like producing models on anniversary's now (30 years of NSE, 30 years of sector livery) that 2018/19 marks 30 years since the last peak's were withdrawn and 45106 was painted green. So how about a nice new 45/0, 45/1 with headlight and 45106 as maybe a limited edition? He made a note of it in his notepad, let's see.

[Norm81]

Sealed beam peaks do come up for sale second hand, if you're very very patient or have deep pockets. Took me ages to get mine.

[ThaneofFife]

its about time they just got on with sealed beam peaks.  for years now folk have been calling for them.

[GordonC]

There might only be one livery for them, but there were lots of locos with this nose to pick and choose from. Even if a batch were split up to tampo print different numbers to increase variety it would surely sell well

[adb968008]

The only caution is I remember Replica introducing them back in the mid90's.

 

At the time they were the the mutts nuts, streeets ahead of Mainline offering and same price as Lima's contemporaries.

 

Replica offered 45128, 45106 and an unnumbered variant.

Whilst 45106 was ambitious as it was repainted and intended to replace D200 as BR's celebrity loco, it was short lived when it caught fire..

 

non of the models seemed the fly from the shelves, even despite the unnumbered ones being offered with painted name rub on transfers.

 

Back onto prototype, ixion, whilst being first to the mainline didn't attract many sell out Railtours and 45112 was the same.

As Peaks ended their careers it was no where near the bang that proceeded the 50's or the cult following of the 40's.

 

Even Bachmanns 46's were two a plenty.

 

Peaks aren't as popular as people make them out to be and with limited livery options for this variant there's not a lot to go off.

Edited September 1, 2017 by adb968008

[Legend]

Not sure to be honest. They were a widespread class . Edinburgh/Glasgow down to the toe of Cornwall and a fairly large class overall, they should be popular. I can't remember if Replica released them in late 70s condition, I thought they were only available with large sealed beam headlight , which to me disfigured them and wasn't particularly well executed on the model.

 

As has been said the Bachmann model is streets ahead of the old Mainline/ Replica one . It's also not been available for a few years now , so I suspect a plain banger blue marker light Peak would go down pretty well . By the time it arrives you might not have much change out of that £200 Hattons example previously mentioned.

[rob D2]

If they do do it, please don't do it with the big modern headlight - surely that was only valid for a couple of years and will wipe out the 70s potential.

 

Music easier for people to add that, than try and take away

[SouthernBlue80s]

If they do do it, please don't do it with the big modern headlight - surely that was only valid for a couple of years and will wipe out the 70s potential.

 

Music easier for people to add that, than try and take away

Totally agree Rob.

 

And the the mainline one might have been good in its day...but as some one said further up the thread it is a poor misshapen model by today s standards.

[Baby Deltic]

I picked up some of the MZ 45's some time ago. One was 45122. Since then I have found one or two second hand ones.

[Stentor]

I always remember seeing the "Peak Army" in action on the Spotter Special rail tour hauled by Lytham St Annes.

 

They were singing their song and trying to build a human peak by the trackside at the Grindleford photo stop.

 

You couldn't tell them that Peaks weren't popular machines.

[TRAILRAGE]

MMM I've also got a Bachmann model of 45122 with sealed beam headlights and nose seam but its in weathered condition. Bought S/H for £45 from Neil Creswell back in 10/05/08 . The label on the box says "exclusive model by TMC and has a small brass TMC plaque on the underside. Assume they bought up the remaining stock?

 

 

Cheers Tralirage 

[tinsley-toton]

I was lucky and picked up 3*45048 bodyshells from the Bachmann (I think) stand at Warley for £6 each some years ago, there was something wrong with the first batch so more were produced for Modelzone. 

[SouthernBlue80s]

Wow - very lucky

[TRAILRAGE]

JELOUS MUCH!!!!

[SouthernBlue80s]

No not at all...never

[TRAILRAGE]

I MEANT ME!!!!! LOL

[jonathan452]

From what I have heard (unofficially) the tooling had been checked within the last few years and was not in an acceptable condition.

Was that not the Farish 'N' gauge (rather than OO) tooling?

 

EDIT http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/119201-farish-peaks-whats-going-on/ - Post 7

Edited September 4, 2017 by jonathan452

[Flood]

Was that not the Farish 'N' gauge (rather than OO) tooling?

 

EDIT http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/119201-farish-peaks-whats-going-on/ - Post 7

I've only ever asked about the OO Peak as I have never modelled in 'N'. I'll try and see if my source has any further information on the Modelzone mould but I wouldn't hold your breath.

[Wayne 56089]

Standard release blue peaks are virtually non existent and always seem to go quick from retailers so surely a sealed beam version plus a 45/1 would fly off the shelf!

 

Barring the lucky few that managed to get hold of either 45048 (one went for £245 on eBay recently!) or one of the bodyshells Bachmann sold off they very rarely come up, and also aren’t very common on a lot of 80s layouts I’ve seen either.

[Clive Mortimore]

When the only Peak available was the Mainline 45 with its twin window headcode panels people use to do a thing called modelling and alter the fronts.

 

Old photo of old fashioned models, the 44 and the split headcode 45 are original Mainline locos. Bit of filler and away you go.

[34theletterbetweenB&D]

 With a model as a starting point available RTR, that would seem the obvious thing to do. Especially as most of the diesel models I have seen really cry out for 'adjustment' to significant features in any case, just to make them look like the prototype as I recall it, and comparison to photos confirms. (Of the sixteen different classes I have, mostly pilot scheme types, it is only the Bachmann DP1 and Cravens DMU, Heljan Baby Deltic and Hornby 350hp shunter that make the 'happily good enough' category.)

 

 

...They were a widespread class . Edinburgh/Glasgow down to the toe of Cornwall and a fairly large class overall, they should be popular...

... the "Peak Army" ...singing their song and trying to build a human peak by the trackside ....You couldn't tell them that Peaks weren't popular machines.

Whatever 'should be' the case, maybe that crowd were in a fair way to being the sum total following?

 

There are no rules for popularity, and the retailers and manufacturers are pretty well attuned to picking up on what will fly off the shelves. That the 'never mind the quality, feel the width' specialists, both Lima and Margate Hornby, studiously avoided the subject must indicate something, no?

['CHARD]

with this nose to pick 

 

Just don't eat it.