RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted March 24, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) Has anyone attempted to prise a cabside number off yet? Had a quick go but it doesnt want to play. Edit: cracked it: brand new blade, attack from bottom where less visible, prod point between plate and surround and lever until it pops off. Reminded of that chap who fainted cutting the queens diamond! Can also confirm the replacements do need to be smaller than any of the various ones I have so narrow planet specials are the best bet, unless you fancy removing the moulded surround. Edited March 24, 2020 by Hal Nail 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fezza Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Finally arrived - some shots of the new loco on track.. excuse the dodgy ballasting on the shelf layout. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fezza Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 One more... runs vey well too. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coeurdelyon Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Hi Hal, The etched plate is fitted into a small recess the beading around is moulded to the cab and painted body colour, to remove the number plate you need to get a craft knife an place inside the beading to prize off. I have attached a picture showing the moulded on beading Hope that helps Best Richard 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidmouth Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 I've bought two from Tony's Trains at Rugby . what beautiful models they are and capture the prototype the bad news is they are too good to sit on display so now I have a little o gauge layout coming together 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron3820 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 My Dapol 14xx seems really incapable of towing even a single autocoach around, can any help me with it? 1 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted March 26, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 26, 2020 2 hours ago, aaron3820 said: My Dapol 14xx seems really incapable of towing even a single autocoach around, can any help me with it? Bloody obvious why......they have both derailed 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Just a little adhesion required. Can you sit on the 14xx? Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted March 26, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 26, 2020 52 minutes ago, atom3624 said: Just a little adhesion required. Can you sit on the 14xx? Al. Not without an embarrassing trip to A&E afterwards........er.......I slipped Doc...... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K14 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 10 hours ago, boxbrownie said: Bloody obvious why......they have both derailed From the look of the butterfly, someone's pulled the cord too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartb Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Quote I recieved my 14xx on Friday, and guess what ? it's not working. First loco I have ever had that is not working. so will phone the shop up tomorrow about sending it back. i recieved my replacement 14xx today, and it runs well. Thank you Tower models for such a quick service. Next thing is to try it out on my garden Railway. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartb Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Tried my 14xx out today on my garden railway. It went well once I cleaned the track. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welsh Signaller Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Does anyone know how to remove the body shell ? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncklowe Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 On 19/03/2020 at 20:45, dpgibbons said: It's not very illuminating, but the link here illustrates the slide-out pcb with speakers underneath. According to the Hornby Mag review, a pair of 15x11mm sugarcube speakers clip in to enclosures under the pcb with no soldering required. Their review model - presumably the factory spec - used a Zimo MX644 decoder with a custom sound set. Hopefully we'll soon know what third party options will fit and if there is room for larger speakers and stay-alives. I have fitted the MX644D to my 14xx along with a 330muf cap and an Ice Dual 28x18x7 mm speaker supplied by YouChoos. I reckon that you would get an 8mm speaker in attached with BlackTack or a 9mm if you use double sided tape. Not sure if you would get much more in in the way of stay alive. Can put up a couple more pics if required. Nick 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 I have done the same but I think it would be possible to reduce the Dapol PCB to just the 21 pin socket and the end that plugs in to the loco. That would make space in the boiler for a deeper speaker and a decent stay alive. I tried the Dapol method of two slim line sugar cubes but found that fitting the supplied gaskets was very fiddly and then I could not get one enclosure to sit properly so I abandoned that and went for the conventional soldered solution. Norman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coeurdelyon Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Regarding the stay alive capacitors, these would be very useful on a short 4 - coupled wheelbase locomotive and others that have rigid suspension to maintain smooth performance. The new Dapol 0-4-2 has been designed with a FULLY compensated chassis and sprung plunger pick-ups on all six wheels, to avoid the use of these capacitors. The new slide in PCB for decoder/speaker installation won an award last year at Warley for its invention, which we are very proud of, helping our customers to fit a DCC decoder for improved performance and sound fitting if required without the use of tools such as a soldering iron Regards, Richard 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDuty Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 On 22/03/2020 at 16:20, Bartb said: I recieved my 14xx on Friday, and guess what ? it's not working. First loco I have ever had that is not working. so will phone the shop up tomorrow about sending it back. So much for not going out. My pair arrived last week, and while one runs beautifully the other ran poorly for a few inches and stopped. I looked for obvious issues such as an unseated PCB, but it appears to be an issue somewhere near the motor because the firebox light does work indicating power is being picked up. I’m hesitant to pop it open to look for a loose wire, and because the running was rather poor initially I think it will need to make the long trip back across the ocean for replacement. They are truly gorgeous models! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 13 hours ago, coeurdelyon said: Regarding the stay alive capacitors, these would be very useful on a short 4 - coupled wheelbase locomotive and others that have rigid suspension to maintain smooth performance. The new Dapol 0-4-2 has been designed with a FULLY compensated chassis and sprung plunger pick-ups on all six wheels, to avoid the use of these capacitors. The new slide in PCB for decoder/speaker installation won an award last year at Warley for its invention, which we are very proud of, helping our customers to fit a DCC decoder for improved performance and sound fitting if required without the use of tools such as a soldering iron Regards, Richard Richard, I wholly agree that a rigid 4-wheeler will need KA caps, but I don’t think it’s true to say that a compensated 6-wheeler would not benefit from them. I am looking forward to seeing one in the flesh! atb Simon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron3820 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 I’ll get mine to Australia one day maybe 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piemanlarger Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 5 hours ago, aaron3820 said: I’ll get mine to Australia one day maybe I can't get one to Swansea ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NeilHB Posted March 31, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2020 Could I ask a favour please of those of you who own one please? Would someone mind posting a photo of the chassis without the body on please? I have an idea forming but need to know what the chassis looks like I commit to buying one. Thanks in advance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welsh Signaller Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 On 31/03/2020 at 07:39, Piemanlarger said: I can't get one to Swansea ! If you want one, drop me a line....(Newport). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
suomen Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 On 30/03/2020 at 09:05, coeurdelyon said: The new slide in PCB for decoder/speaker installation won an award last year at Warley for its invention, which we are very proud of, And rightly so! It's absolutely great and I hope all future models will have similar easy-fit solutions! I like to show how I did the installation with the Sugarcubes, as well as to show how totally easy the installation is thanks to Dapol's preparations. Installation of sound actually is a piece o' cake. No tools needed at all if you stick to just installing sound. I opted for the YouChoos sounds but I added their 17.000μF Super Capacitor which I value so much because of its lavish performance of 8-9 seconds additional power if power supply fails. Installation starts with opening of the smokebox door which is easy if you gently lever it from the hinge side. Don't try to open the door by means of the smokebox dart! Afterwards just pull out the PCB. Attention, I failed to do photos in time… the pictures show the state after changing the original Dapol PCB for the Zimo decoder. The Next picture already shows the SuperCap on the left. But what I mainly want to show is that Dapol had a cool idea regarding the speaker housings. You just have to replace the original Zimo housings with the Dapol housings which are a clip-fit. Make sure that the spring contacts line up with the circuit paths on the underside of the main PCB. The flat foam pad which I added to the upper side of the speaker is supplied by Dapol with the model and it prevents vibration. After sliding the PCB back into the boiler there's enough space for the SuperCap beneath the PCB - though mine struggled a bit which is why it's slightly askew. Smokebox door back in place - ready for layout use! The sound of the 2 Sugarcubes is full and loud and the YouChoos sounds are really great! The whole installation process took about 10-12 minutes because I had to change the supplied 470μF capacitor for the 17,000μF SuperCap. If you don't have to solder the installation is a matter of 5 minutes I'm sure. 10 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted April 3, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) Great description, looks such an easy install and rightly deserved the award. One point I could never understand is the reason for fitting these “super caps” I have always just fitted the smallest but effective cap (and with Zimo the one that comes installed as standard) , after all they really are just for bridging a momentary failure of contact (and to be honest most dirty track contacts are milliseconds of running, and often countered by decent flywheel momentum but obviously this doesn’t negate the loss of sound often), fitting a capacitor that enables running for 5-15 seconds seems to me to be just a bit OTT, I always thought anything that bridges half a second contact is almost over the top anyway. Just my view, not disagreeing with the fitment. Edited April 3, 2020 by boxbrownie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpgibbons Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Quote But what I mainly want to show is that Dapol had a cool idea regarding the speaker housings. You just have to replace the original Zimo housings with the Dapol housings which are a clip-fit. Make sure that the spring contacts line up with the circuit paths on the underside of the main PCB. Do you need to seal the speaker enclosures with sticky gaskets? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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