Edwardian Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Beatrice Which brings us back to Dante. My cherished translation of the Divine Comedy is by Dorothy L Sayers (yes, that Dorothy L Sayers) and she describes the area between the gate if Hell and the river Acheron, where the fence-sitters, who never committed to either a good or evil life, are tormented in a sort of limbo. She uses the term "vestibule". The date of the translation is 1949. I'm pretty sure the area concerned is not part of a railway carriage! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted September 25, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 25, 2017 A "Shooting Break" was a vehicle used to cart sportsmen and their equipment out to slaughter game birds. Its synonymous with Station Wagon and latterly, the Estate Car. According to Wikipedia, its an early 19th C British term and derives from a robust carriage chassis hooked to spirited horses to "break" them. But had become, in English 'brake'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Hayter Posted September 25, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 25, 2017 Mrs Compound2632, or Beatrice if she must have a nom de chemin de fer, is a lexicographer by profession. She maintains that in current British English, use of the word vestibule is confined to its railway carriage sense. I do hope your OH has not accepted that nasty Americanism "lobby" as a replacement for a hotel vestibule. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 EDIT: That's my wife you're talking about, so watch your step... I had gathered from your pseudonym that you were a 'Midland man' but I hadn't realised that you were actually married to one of their locos! Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Which brings us back to Dante. My cherished translation of the Divine Comedy is by Dorothy L Sayers (yes, that Dorothy L Sayers) and she describes the area between the gate if Hell and the river Acheron, where the fence-sitters, who never committed to either a good or evil life, are tormented in a sort of limbo. She uses the term "vestibule". The date of the translation is 1949. I'm pretty sure the area concerned is not part of a railway carriage! Given the overcrowding on sections of the modern railway, being tortured in a vestibule seems pretty spot on. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted September 25, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 25, 2017 Since French has had a mention, ‘break’ is the term for an estate car here, hence I drive a Clio Break. The brakes do work, but of course they are called ‘freins’. That's just a fourgon conclusion... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted September 25, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 25, 2017 Which brings us back to Dante. My cherished translation of the Divine Comedy is by Dorothy L Sayers (yes, that Dorothy L Sayers) and she describes the area between the gate if Hell and the river Acheron, where the fence-sitters, who never committed to either a good or evil life, are tormented in a sort of limbo. She uses the term "vestibule". The date of the translation is 1949. I'm pretty sure the area concerned is not part of a railway carriage! I've only read it right through in her translation, that being the Penguin available in the days when I had time for such things. She's very good on explaining Thomist theology but weaker on poetry. Now back in the pre-grouping era, if one read Dante, one had the leisure to do so in Italian. I do hope your OH has not accepted that nasty Americanism "lobby" as a replacement for a hotel vestibule. Despite intense lobbying... We don't discuss stations in our house, either. I had gathered from your pseudonym that you were a 'Midland man' but I hadn't realised that you were actually married to one of their locos! Jim You were the one who mentioned your excitement at the sight of her safety valves... Given the overcrowding on sections of the modern railway, being tortured in a vestibule seems pretty spot on. Reading to Paddington. More purgatory than hell - the rigours of the journey have been willingly embraced for the sake of what lies at journey's end. That's just a fourgon conclusion... Très bien... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted September 25, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 25, 2017 That's just a fourgon conclusion... A remorqueable follow-up! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted September 25, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 25, 2017 Reading to Paddington. More purgatory than hell - the rigours of the journey have been willingly embraced for the sake of what lies at journey's end. The Hammersmith and City line?!?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 The Hammersmith and City line?!?! Mornington Crescent! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted September 25, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 25, 2017 The Hammersmith and City line?!?! The inner circle... You're right, the analogy rapidly breaks down. Mornington Crescent! No, that's the Northern Line - not for nothing is Dante's Inferno represented as subterranean. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted September 25, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 25, 2017 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted September 25, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 25, 2017 IMG_1435.JPG Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) The internet is much slower up at these latitudes I've only just found this in order to check on spelling: The Train - A.A. Milne Let it rain, who cares?I've a train -- upstairs,With a brake that I make from a string sorta thing --Which works -- in jerks,'Cause it drops in the spring and it stops with the string,And the wheels all stick so quick that it feelsLike a thing that I make with a brake, not string.Let it rain, -- who cares? I've a train -- upstairs,With a brake that I make from a string sorta thing --Which works -- in jerks,'Cause it drops in the spring and it stops with the string,And that's what I make when the day's all wet,It's a good sort of brake, but it hasn't worked yet! But is Christopher Robin pre or post grouping? dh Edited September 25, 2017 by runs as required 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penlan Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 But is Christopher Robin pre or post grouping? It was all a very long time ago now, about last Friday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate. Over the door of the Brexit negotiation room? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted September 25, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 25, 2017 IMG_1435.JPG Class! I looked and thought "Emett!" and so it is. In my yoof his Far Twittering & Oysterperch (?) model would appear at events like the Boys & Girls Exhibition at Olympia. Essentially Pre-Grouping. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted September 25, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 25, 2017 The internet is much slower up at these latitudes I've only just found this in order to check on spelling: The Train - A.A. Milne Let it rain, who cares? I've a train -- upstairs, With a brake that I make from a string sorta thing -- Which works -- in jerks, 'Cause it drops in the spring and it stops with the string, And the wheels all stick so quick that it feels Like a thing that I make with a brake, not string. Let it rain, -- who cares? I've a train -- upstairs, With a brake that I make from a string sorta thing -- Which works -- in jerks, 'Cause it drops in the spring and it stops with the string, And that's what I make when the day's all wet, It's a good sort of brake, but it hasn't worked yet! But is Christopher Robin pre or post grouping? dh It was all a very long time ago now, about last Friday. It does sound suspiciously like the notorious Clark and Webb chain brake... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 With a brake that I make from a string sorta thing -- It's a good sort of brake, but it hasn't worked yet! Excellent - About time we got onto the Clark & Webb chain brake system - One for Penlan, I think! Possibly not such a concern if one is a dead fish, however. It does sound suspiciously like the notorious Clark and Webb chain brake... Snap! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian@stenochs Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Let's get it over and done with: a Smellie wee bogie. With apologies to Sou' West enthusiasts everywhere, who will rightly say it's more properly a 119 class or 'Greenock' bogie. Yes a 'Wee Bogie' as designed by Hugh Smellie.like this one, Ian. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Yes a 'Wee Bogie' as designed by Hugh Smellie.like this one, Ian. If its a Smellie Bogie, what is it fulled with? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted September 25, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 25, 2017 Yes a 'Wee Bogie' as designed by Hugh Smellie.like this one, Ian. Superb. Do you have an example of the large bogies (153 class) too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 If its a Smellie Bogie, what is it fulled with? Assuming you mean 'fueled', smelly Ayrshire coal. (The name is more correctly pronounced 'Smiley', to be pedantic once again.) Jim 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted September 25, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 25, 2017 Assuming you mean 'fueled', smelly Ayrshire coal. (The name is more correctly pronounced 'Smiley', to be pedantic once again.) Jim Does one detect just a whiff of the old rivalry there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted September 25, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 25, 2017 Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate. Lasagne without spinach, had me chundering? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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