Beclawat Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Hi I have a newbie DCC question please. I was doing quite well with my ECoS, I have been running my first 2 locos ok for a while. But I have a problem with a couple of new locos I've just bought and had chipped. They program ok using the manual 'New loco > Create manually' options (I seem to recall my first two locos were recognised automatically, but I can't remember for sure) and I can drive them fine. But when the controller is turned off and back on again, there is no trace of the new loco. When programming I'm pressing the button that has a down arrow pointing to the track and I'm saving to loco list 1, but the loco never appears there (or in any other list). I guess I'm missing out a step or something. Any advice much appreciated cos at the moment it's driving me nuts! Thanks, Anthony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiDAS Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Hi I have a newbie DCC question please. I was doing quite well with my ECoS, I have been running my first 2 locos ok for a while. But I have a problem with a couple of new locos I've just bought and had chipped. They program ok using the manual 'New loco > Create manually' options (I seem to recall my first two locos were recognised automatically, but I can't remember for sure) and I can drive them fine. But when the controller is turned off and back on again, there is no trace of the new loco. When programming I'm pressing the button that has a down arrow pointing to the track and I'm saving to loco list 1, but the loco never appears there (or in any other list). I guess I'm missing out a step or something. Any advice much appreciated cos at the moment it's driving me nuts! Thanks, Anthony. Are you changing the loco number or using one already entered by some one else. I have found that the ECoS has a wierd thing about saving an existing number. My way round this has been to under manual options to alter the number by one and save, then alter it back to the original and save. Hope this helps Terry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beclawat Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 Hi Terry. Thanks for the suggestion, do you mean the address number? I tried changing it, saving, then changing it back and saving it again, but no joy. :-/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiDAS Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) Hi Terry. Thanks for the suggestion, do you mean the address number? I tried changing it, saving, then changing it back and saving it again, but no joy. :-/ Yes I do mean address number. Try disabling M4/Railcom and try again. Railway modelling is fun ??? THis is under set up 1 on the rail icon 5th down make sure all But DCC is un ticked Edited September 8, 2017 by MiDAS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beclawat Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 Yes I do mean address number. Try disabling M4/Railcom and try again. Railway modelling is fun ??? THis is under set up 1 on the rail icon 5th down make sure all But DCC is un ticked Sorry, you've lost me. This sounds like a menu I've not found yet. Thanks for your patience, I feel a right numpty! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted September 8, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 8, 2017 Hi there Sounds to me like the problem might be you are not saving before closing down. Locos created are lost if you don't. It's in the controller maintenance icon along the top row....not at home at moment but can talk through it later if you can't suss it. Had same problem myself! Cheers Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 55020 Posted September 8, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 8, 2017 In addition to pressing the "track" icon to reprogram the chip, you also need to press the green "tick" icon to save it to the ECoS memory. Then when it comes to powering off the ECoS you need to hold down the stop button until a message is displayed stating you can now turn it off. Perhaps this helps? Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beclawat Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 Thanks chaps. Terry, I now see the screen you mean, I changed the settings as you suggested but sadly to no effect. Steve, thanks but I've already been doing those two things. Phil, it's good to hear it's not just me who is having this problem! Is the controller maintenance icon the one that brings up Setup 1 and Setup 2? I'm not sure where you mean from there? I've got to put this to one side now as I've got an early start in the morning, but I will have another crack at it on Sunday. When I can finally see the new loco appear on the loco list I'll breathe a sigh of relief! Cheers Anthony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daltonparva Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I changed the loco icon to something else once, and that disappeared from my list. If you have 2 steam and 2 diesels might they be hiding in 2 different lists? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted September 10, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 10, 2017 Phil, it's good to hear it's not just me who is having this problem! Is the controller maintenance icon the one that brings up Setup 1 and Setup 2? I'm not sure where you mean from there? Cheers Anthony Morning Anthony Apols for not coming back sooner - busy day yesterday So what you want is... Spanner over ECoS image - 3rd from right at top of screen Then Set up 1 tab - save bottom right corner That should prevent your locos disappearing As for those having problems with locos saved but subsequently disappearing - on ECoS 50200 firmware v4.2.0 if you go in to select loco via screen icon or button and type 0 - that's zero - in to the numeric keypad on the RH side of the screen you should find it clears all the display list filters and displays every loco stored on your controller regardless of list or loco type Had the same issue - especially with consists - but found this works Cheers Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beclawat Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 Many thanks Phil, only just seen your reply, I'll try it out tomorrow! Cheers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted September 13, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 13, 2017 Let us know if that solves the problem Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beclawat Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 Let us know if that solves the problem Phil Sadly not... see the attached screen print, I don't appear to have a 'Save' button! It's got me completely stumped. Whatever I try, the new locos fail to appear on the loco list, even though I can drive them. Maybe I need to do a firmware update or something? But it beats me why I would need to do that, when my original two locos appeared on the loco lists without all this hassle, and continue to work with no problems. Ant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted September 13, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 13, 2017 Ant Do you want to have a phone conversation about this? Drop me PM with phone number if so Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beclawat Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 For the benefit of anyone reading this thread in future, I solved this with Phil's kind help over the phone. The problem was that at some time in the past I had started to add a loco to the ECoS, but I'd left it as an incomplete entry, so it was lurking in one of the other loco lists under the default name "New 0003". This itself wouldn't have been a problem, but unwittingly I'd left this 'ghost loco' with an address of 3, which was conflicting with the new loco I was trying to add, as it had the same address. Simple when you know how...! Later tonight I also discovered that if you save a loco to a steam loco list, but then change the little loco picture to a diesel (a class 08 in this case), it automatically moves that loco to the diesel loco list. For a moment this had me scratching my head as to where my freshly programmed gronk had disappeared to! Ant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daltonparva Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Later tonight I also discovered that if you save a loco to a steam loco list, but then change the little loco picture to a diesel (a class 08 in this case), it automatically moves that loco to the diesel loco list. For a moment this had me scratching my head as to where my freshly programmed gronk had disappeared to! Ant I mentioned that in post 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beclawat Posted September 14, 2017 Author Share Posted September 14, 2017 Indeed you did daltonparva, my bad, I had missed your message entirely. Thanks for responding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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