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The P is wiithout doubt their best commission yet. They clearly listenned to feedback from previous commissions and applied it aptly to their own. Just as Kernow's Bullied diesel is their best commission to date too. The P almost certainly has my vote for model of the year, and that is with B4's, Lord Nelson and Atlantics on the way (I will be very surprised if nothing delay's the Terrier a few months TBH). Looking away from southern, there is the Stirling single - so the best list is not going to be a push over.

Don't forget the Worsdell G5 and Caley 812, those the Caley 812 and N.E.R G5, those two are high on the lidt too.
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I have now fitted a Zimo MX648 decoder and YouChoos Minnow 4 speaker to my P Class.

I removed the pcb and unscrewed the weight  by the side of the motor. Using a Dremel type tool I ground away the metal to make the slot longer where the weight had been so the decoder could be fitted there. This side gives a bit more height for the decoder. The speaker was then fitted with the plastic top up against the motor. I did wonder if the magnets in the motor would effect the speaker but they do not. The decoder and speaker were wrapped in Kapton tape to insulate everything. They were held in place with small amounts of black mastic. 

 

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I had rotated all the photos the correct way before uploading so why are some now on there side?

 

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Well, perhaps!

Can you clear up the confusion I've encountered whilst "readin' up" on the line. Different sources say that the LSWR B4 classes were used, others not.

 

Please could you advise?

 

Regards

 

H. Ector

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Can you clear up the confusion I've encountered whilst "readin' up" on the line. Different sources say that the LSWR B4 classes were used, others not.

 

Please could you advise?

 

Regards

 

H. Ector

Are you actually asking me to neither confirm nor deny something (or nothing)?

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Had to put my two pennyworth in.

 

I have just received my BR Black late crest version. It spent over 2 days in customs at Brisbane Airport and then the whole of Easter in the tender mercies of Australia Post (excuse any pun)..........

 

Well worth the wait though, going out on their own, Hattons have created what is a cracking little model, and it runs beautifully. They have kept the construction and mechanism simple and have "nailed" it; well done to all concerned. Looking forward to the Barclay and whatever else is in the pipeline.

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I still have my original Wills Finecast kit from 1965 somewhere in my collection. I was pretty basic but I done a bit of super detailing with brake shoes. It's now on its second chassis, the original took the Triang XT60. I also have the later Finecast kit with etched chassis, a much better kit which I must finish for comparison.

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I had rotated all the photos the correct way before uploading so why are some now on there side?

I gather you took these shots on your mobile. Assuming you did, the RMweb software insists that photos are taken in landscape format not portrait.
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Had to put my two pennyworth in.

 

I have just received my BR Black late crest version. It spent over 2 days in customs at Brisbane Airport and then the whole of Easter in the tender mercies of Australia Post (excuse any pun)..........

 

Well worth the wait though, going out on their own, Hattons have created what is a cracking little model, and it runs beautifully. They have kept the construction and mechanism simple and have "nailed" it; well done to all concerned. Looking forward to the Barclay and whatever else is in the pipeline.

 

So, yours took the same time to get to Oz that mine took to get to Kent ... as you say, well worth it though!

 

Apologies for poor phone snaps. "Bluebell" meets "Kissack", which isn't huge itself.........

 

There is a pic in one of the Bowaters albums of Pioneer II parked next to one of the Bagnells at Ridham ... they're about the same size!!  The P really is quite small.

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Don't forget the Worsdell G5 and Caley 812, those the Caley 812 and N.E.R G5, those two are high on the lidt too.

Good contenders for sure but suspect they have a good chance of being delayed into 2019.

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The Saga doth continueth in 'The Sussex Play'...

 

Act 4 - Scene 1

 

The yard. In the middle, the ash pit.

 

Steam, Enter the three WAINWRIGHT P's.

 

Bluebell: Thrice the B4 Tank hath whistled.

 

Primrose: Thrice and once the block bells chimed. (ED. For the 'Wealden Rambler' was due to leave for Horsted, and it's an express. I know Sheffield Park is a terminus...)

 

178: Birch Grove cries 'Tis time, 'tis time.

 

Bluebell: Round about the ashpit go;

                In the boiler sludge throw.

                TOAD, that under cold stone

                Days and nights has the O-One

                Swelter'd diesel (sleeping git)

                Burn thou first i' the charmed pit.

 

All: Double, double toil and trouble;

       Firebox burn and Ashpit shovel.

 

Primrose: Fillet of some boiler plate,

                  In the ashpit melt and cremate;

                  Rod of H and buffer of U,

                  Bulleid Chain and Wainwright Flue,

                  Adams Bogie and a cylinder ring,

                  Drummond dome and the machine that goes 'ping',

                  For a charm of powerful trouble,

                  Like a hell ashpit, boil and shovel.

 

All: Double, double toil and trouble;

       Firebox burn and Ashpit shovel.

 

178: Green of Stroudley, wheel of Gooch,

        Stephen's Gazelle, Gresley's Pooch,

        Of the new-build Marsh Atlantic,

        The wheels begin turning frantic,

        Boxpoks of the stuffed Q1,

        Just so I can think of a pun,

        The nose of an A4, 

        A spanner left on the workshop floor,

        A fresh new Wainwright Pagoda cab,

        Dubdee outshopped in WD Drab,

        The tender from a Hughes-Fowler Crab,

        Add thereto a tiger's ashpit,

        For the ingredients of this sh*t.

 

All: Double, double toil and trouble;

       Firebox burn and Ashpit shovel.

 

Primrose: Cool it with the finest water.

                  Then test the charm o' the nearest Porter.

 

Enter HECATE (0-8-0T) to the three WAINWRIGHT P's.

 

Hecate: O well done! I commend your pains;

              And everyone shall share i' the gains;

              And now about the ashpit sing,

              Live Pecketts and Barclays all in a ring,

              Enchanting all that you put in.

 

Music and a song: 'Black Moguls' & C.

 

HECATE retires.

 

Primrose: By the clunking of my Buffers, ( :O )
                  Something wicked this way chuffers.

                  Open, points,

                  Whoever appoints!

 

Enter STEPNEY

 

Stepney: How now, you secret, green (and blue), and midnight tanks?

                What is't you do?

 

All: A deed without a name.

 

Stepney: I conjure you, by that which you profess,

                Howe'er you come to know it, answer me:

                Though you untie the jumbos and let them fight (ED: Them Caley 0-6-0's keep me up all the night!)

                Against the management, through yesty clouds,

                Confound and swallow trackwork up;

                Though bladed points be lodged and trees blown down;

                Though bridges topple on the signal heads;

                Though signal posts and lamps do slope

                Their heads to their foundations; though the treasures

                Of the C&W Workshop do tumble all together,

                Even till destruction stricken; answer me

                To what I ask you.

 

Bluebell: Speak.

 

Primose: Demand.

 

178: We'll answer.

 

Bluebell: Say, if thou'dst rather hear it from our mouths,

                Or from our masters?

 

Stepney: Call 'em, let me see 'em.

 

Bluebell: Pour in the porter's blood, that hath eaten

                His bacon sarnie; fat that's sweaten

                From the buffet's frying pan through

                Over the gas-ring stove.

 

All: Come, high or low;

       Thyself and office deftly show!

 

Steam. FIRST APPARITION: An armed tank (An ex-GER F5)

 

Stepney: Tell me, thou unknown power, --

 

Bluebell: He knows thy thought:

                Hear his speech, but say thou nought.

 

First Apparition: Stepney! Stepney! Stepney! beware the 'Duff.

                             Beware the Thane of Loughborough. Dismiss me. Enough.

Descends 

 

Stepney: Whate'er thou art, for thy good caution, thanks;

                Thou hast harp'd my fear aright: but one word more, --

 

Bluebell: He will not be commanded: here's another,

                More potent than the first.

 

Steam. SECOND APPARITION: Princess Anne (As met her end at Harrow)

 

Second Appartion: Stepney! Stepney! Stepney!

 

Stepney: Had I three ears, I'ld hear thee.

 

Second Apparition: Be bloody, bold and resolute; laugh to scorn

                                  The power of diesel, for none of Brush Works built

                                  Shall harm Stepney.

Descends

 

Stepney: Then live, Duff, what need I fear of thee?

                But yet I'll make assurance double sure,

                And take a bond of fate: thou shalt not live;

                That I may tell pale-hearted fear it lies,

                And sleep in spite of thunder.

 

Steam. THIRD APPARITION: A Royal Engine (LBSCR B1 'Gladstone' ordained with royal regalia)

               

                What is this

                 That rises like the issue of a king,

                 And wears upon his smokebox door the crown

                 And garters of sovereignty?

 

All: Listen, but speak not to't.

 

Third Apparition: Be lion-mettled, proud and take no care

                              Who chafes, who frets, or where conspirers are:

                              Stepney shall never be vanquished until

                              Great Sharpthorne Tunnel to Sheffield Park

                              Shall come against him.

Descends

 

Stepney: That will never be

                Who can impress the tunnel, bid the brick

                Unfix its hill-bound wall? Sweet bodements! good!

                Rebellion's head, rise never till the tunnel

                Of Sharpthorne rise, and our high-placed Stepney

                Shall live the lease of nature, pay his breath

                To time and mortal custom. Yet my boiler

                Throbs to know one thing: tell me if your art 

                Can tell me so much: shall Fenchurch's issue ever

                Reign in this kingdom?

 

All: Seek to know no more.

 

Stepney: I will be satisfied: deny me this,

                And an eternal curse fall on you! Let me know.

                Why sinks that ashpit? and what noise is this?

Whistles

 

Bluebell: Show!
 

Primrose: Show!

 

178: Show!

 

All: Show his eyes and grieve his heart;

       Come like shadows, so depart!

 

A show of eight terriers, the last in original A1 form. The GHOST OF FENCHURCH following.

 

Stepney: Thou art too like the spirit of Fenchurch: Down!

                Thy copper-top does sear mine smokebox. And thy bunker,

                Thou other coal-railed rear, is like the first.

                A third is like the former. Filthy P's!

                Why do you show me this? A fourth! Start, eyes!

                What, will the line stretch out to the crack of doom?

                Another yet! A seventh! I'll see no more:

                And yet an eighth appears, who bears A1 form

                Which shows me many more; and some I see

                That two-fold domes and treble chimneys carry:

                Horrible sight! Now, I see, 'tis true;

                For the rust-bolter'd Fenchurch smiles upon me

                And points at them for his.

 

Apparitions Vanish

 

                What, is this so?

 

Bluebell: Ay, Sir, all this is so: but why

                Stands Stepney so amazedly?

                Come, Wainwrights, cheer we up his sprites,

                And show the best of our delights:

                I'll charm the air to give a sound,

                While you perform your antic round:

                That this great king may kindly say,

                Our duties did his welcome pay.

 

Music. The WAINWRIGHT P's shunt and then vanish, with HECATE.

 

Stepney: Where are they? Gone? Let this pernicious hour

                Stand aye accursed in the calendar!

                Come in, without there!

 

Enter NORMANDY

 

Normandy: What's your grace's will?

 

Stepney: Saw you the Wainwright P's?

 

Normandy: No, my Lord.

 

Stepney: Came they not by the yard office?

 

Normandy: No, indeed, my Lord.

 

Stepney: Infected be the rails whereupon they ride;

                And damn'd all those that trust them! I did hear

                The clattering of couplings: what was't that came by?

 

Normandy: 'Tis two or three, my Lord, that bring you word

                     The 'Duff is fled to Swanage.

 

Stepney: Fled to Swanage!

 

Normandy: Ay, my good Lord.

 

Stepney: Time, thou anticipatest my dread exploits:

                The flighty purpose never is o'ertook

                Unless the deed go with it; from this moment

                The very firstlings of my heart shall be

                The firstlings of my hand. And even now,

                To crown my thoughts with acts, be it thought and done:

                The shed of the 'Duff I will surprise;

                Seize upon Loughborough; give to the edge o' the sword

                His Tractor, his Chopper and all unfortunate diesels

                That associate with his like. No boasting like a fool;

                This deed I'll do before this purpose cool.

                But no more sights!-- Where are these gentlemen?

                Come, bring me where they are.

 

Exeunt 

 

 

 

S

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Morning all,

 

Apologies for being so quiet around these parts as of late.

 

The past couple of weeks have been incredibly busy but very satisfying at the same time.

 

We attended Alexandra Palace towards the end of March which was a fantastic experience yet again. It was great getting to meet so many people and share the progress on all of our current projects.

 

The day after I got back from the exhibition is when we finally received our Ps. The Logistics team did an absolutely fantastic job getting pre-orders despatched and I'm so glad to see that so many of you have received them.

 

It doesn't seem that long ago that we started the project and we imagined how people would react when they managed to get their hands on the finished models.

 

We're incredibly glad to see how happy people have been with the models so far. Thank you everybody for sharing your feedback and photos with us.

 

 

Cheers,

 

Dave

 

 

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Brilliant stuff! That is Thomas the Tank Engine for grown ups. When thou diest you die, you should be buried in Westminster Abbey.

Is there an ash pit in Westminster Abbey then ? ...................... seriously, someone should do an animation of this for a Media Studies degree ....... er- or something !

 

..... and mention of Hecate - Yes, Please, Dave ! ... you were hunting round for another project, weren't you !!?!

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A straight copy from my layout topic:

I did a bit of weathering with powders on the platelayers' hut, and am quite pleased with the effect. It can be seen here with newly arrived preserved P class 0-6-0T, No. 323 Bluebell, running 'wrong road' on a short works train.

The P is from Hatton's and looks absolutely stunning. It ran well on DC straight from the box, and after an hour on the rolling road was fitted with a Bachmann 36-568 decoder. It runs even more sweetly on DCC and is improving further with running on the continuous circuit. I'll look forward to receiving another, this time in SECR livery, plus two of their Andrew-Barclay 0-4-0ST industrial locos in due course. I'm very impressed.

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Hattons P Class 0-6-0T Bluebell on Maintenance Train - 1 by Jeffrey Lynn, on Flickr

 

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Hattons P Class 0-6-0T Bluebell on Maintenance Train - 2 by Jeffrey Lynn, on Flickr

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Some pictures of 'Bluebell' on the club layout at the barn at Godlingston Manor at Swanage. There were some engineering works on the model railway. By the time I had cleared the track I only had time to send 'Bluebell' on one circuit. I did clean the track but the locomotive was a little hesitant in places due to dirt on the track.

 

I have looked through the Bluebell Railway passenger rated stock list and I thought that a pair SECR birdcage brakes in Southern olive livery would be suitable coaches. The Bluebell has a wide variety of rolling stock ranging from pre-grouping coaches from eight companies to Southern Maunsell coaches, Southern designed Bulleid coaches, Pullman cars, LMS sleepers, BR Mk1s in BR green or maroon and some passenger rated vans.

 

I expect 'Bluebell' would have hauled these during its career. I think 'Bluebell' was hauling the Metropolitan coaches when I visited the Bluebell Line in the 1960s although I only took a picture of the locomotive.

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