Edwardian Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Mike King has drawings of the 6 wheel stock and the bogie coaches. Photos of the bogie stock are 1912, but the trio of 6 wheelers are photographed in the 1920s. Might now consider these designs for next project. That is good news. Quite a lot of your stuff I'm saving up for already, but, with a ready-made loco to go with them, a 6-wheel push & pull 3-set might just shoulder its way to the front of the queue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caddy Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Delighted these are coming out, The bank balance is not so delighted. Order and BR Black Late and the Blue schemed loco , I could not resist. The SE&CR livery is lovely too. Must resist. I couldn't...................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davknigh Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 That is good news. Quite a lot of your stuff I'm saving up for already, but, with a ready-made loco to go with them, a 6-wheel push & pull 3-set might just shoulder its way to the front of the queue. You might want to check here http://mousa.biz/fourmm/coach/etches4.html to find some etched kits and sides that might be of interest. Usual disclaimer applies. Cheers, David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted September 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 12, 2017 Hi Ric, Colour layouts for all twelve planned releases can be seen on the main website - www.hattons.co.uk/pclass[/size] Thank's Dave, I had seen that, just thought it would be nice for Phil's comprehensive post on here to be complete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Come on guys, the Barclay has drawn ahead with 7 pages of interest while we remain at 5. We must find additional things to say about the P class such as: Look -- the P class also served as an Industrial, there are 2 offered. Boy this will go well with the Dapol B4 in a harbour setting, a Barclay probably won't. Wow... they were even used at Folkstone, imagine it helping to push the Golden Arrow - you never saw a Barclay do that.... etc..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Returning briefly to potentially suitable coaching stock for the 1909-1911 Ps, according to Coachman's former copy of David Gould's Carriage Stock of the SE&CR, the following conversions were made to Push-Pull, with the driving compartments fitted to the Seconds. Dates are not given, however. ex-LCDR 6-Wheel Composite No.11, built 1893 (date of P&P conversion given as c.1913) ex-LCDR 6-Wheel Second No. 12, built 1887 ex-LCDR 6-Wheel Second No. 13, built 1889 ex-LCDR 6-Wheel Second No. 57, built 1886 ex-LCDR 6-Wheel Second No. 80, built 1886 ex-LCDR 6-Wheel Third No. 390, built 1891 ex-LCDR 6-Wheel Third No. 391, built 1891 ex-LCDR 6-Wheel Brake Third No. 674, built 1899 No drawings, unfortunately. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Mine will help shunt loaded warwells into place 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 A grey one would go very well with my grey Wainwright C. Blast! That’s four I want now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davknigh Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Come on guys, the Barclay has drawn ahead with 7 pages of interest while we remain at 5. We must find additional things to say about the P class such as: Look -- the P class also served as an Industrial, there are 2 offered. Boy this will go well with the Dapol B4 in a harbour setting, a Barclay probably won't. Wow... they were even used at Folkstone, imagine it helping to push the Golden Arrow - you never saw a Barclay do that.... etc..... I seem to recall that when working the Golden Arrow they were used in groups of three, were they not? Now there's an excuse to push the boat out. Cheers David 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 No drawings, unfortunately. The Mike King book on Pull-Push set has drawings. I'm tempted to have a go at them one day. I don't think D&S ever did the driving trailer as part of their range of LCDR coaches, which is a shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) Just found a link of a P at Chatham Dockyard. http://www.dockyardrailway.co.uk/standard/history/SECR1558.php Edited September 13, 2017 by JSpencer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 During WWII - 2 Ps were used in Chatham Dockyard 1556 and 1558. Info here: http://www.dockyardrailway.co.uk/steam.php Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 31027, a Dover located engine on a short trip to Brighton! https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Trains-Railways-British-Isles/SR-and-BRS/SECR-tank-engines/i-bktZL8r/A Other interest pics of Ps in use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 The atmosphere of this pic is amazing and makes an interesting modelling subject: https://doverhistorian.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/th-11-seafront-railway-c-1955-waterloo-crescent-no-31027-a-p-class-0-6-0-tank-engine.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dover_Marine_Parade_Goods_train_from_Eastern_Dock_geograph-2663003-by-Ben-Brooksbank.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 The Mike King book on Pull-Push set has drawings. I'm tempted to have a go at them one day. I don't think D&S ever did the driving trailer as part of their range of LCDR coaches, which is a shame. Thank you. That is very good to know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireline Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Terrible announcement. Southern modellers being favoured yet again. I've only ordered 3..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Budgie Posted September 13, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 13, 2017 Come on guys, the Barclay has drawn ahead with 7 pages of interest while we remain at 5. We must find additional things to say about the P class such as: It's not the quantity of the interest that matters, but the quality. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 It's not the quantity of the interest that matters, but the quality. It's nice if it's a bit more than .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrymx5 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Oh well! It was never going to be a new 'Manor' was it! Thank heavens! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Terrible announcement. Southern modellers being favoured yet again. Actually not Southern modellers, South East modellers - what about us poor LSWR chappies, what have these retailer led commissions ever done for us? Cue Life of Brian skit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewwaite1 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Well done Hattons! Have both SECR liveried versions on preorder. Now if only someone could make a model of the NRM SECR 'D'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Well done Hattons! Have both SECR liveried versions on preorder. Now if only someone could make a model of the NRM SECR 'D'. Surely, following on from the popularity of the C, H & P, a D is a no brainer, maybe we'll end up with 3 different companies producing one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
autocoach Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Actually not Southern modellers, South East modellers - what about us poor LSWR chappies, what have these retailer led commissions ever done for us? Cue Life of Brian skit Using rule 1, one could legitimatize/theorize an actual use of a P on the Wenford Branch. Overlook the windy(as in winding) twisty problem. In the summer of 1928, it was transferred to Wadebridge Shed for trials on the Wenford Bridge china clay services, but unfortunately the long coupled wheelbase took unkiindly to the many sharp curves and the class was rejected. It was then used on a series of trial runs on the Axeminster-Lyme Regis Branch, but again this was a failure. Eventually in the Autumn of 1928, it was allocated to Battersea Shed for use in the construction of the Wimbledon-Sutton Line. from http://www.dockyardrailway.co.uk/standard/history/SECR1558.php Oh my poor empty purse..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I seem to recall that when working the Golden Arrow they were used in groups of three, were they not? Now there's an excuse to push the boat out. Don't take it literally just because someone said they had a P on the Golden Arrow .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Hamblin Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Ordered 323 and 178 as Bluebell is my local railway. It would be nice if a deal could be done to get a special edition for Project 27 to help with fundraising for that locomotives major overhaul. Regards, Dan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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