R 3453 Stanier Back 5

[Ian Hargrave]

For some of us,this engine might ring a bell,albeit a somewhat grisly one.45274 was the loco involved in the Sutton Coldfield fatal train crash in 1955.Amazingly enough,it was repaired and lasted until almost the end of steam.At the time of the disaster,she was allocated to 22A,Bristol Barrow Road.

 

Edit: typo; Should read " Black 5 "

Edited October 3, 2017 by Ian Hargrave

[Downer]

Can anyone tell me whether this new Black 5 has (a) an adjustable drawbar and (b) customised provision for a speaker?

[adb968008]

Can anyone tell me whether this new Black 5 has (a) an adjustable drawbar and (b) customised provision for a speaker?

It’s not out yet.

But the two previous releases R3323 / R3299 had a fixed draw bar, plug to the tender and fittings in the tender to add a speaker and DCC chip to the DCC socket.

 

Here’s my R3299 awaiting a place in the queue for renumbering (i’m Thinking 45025), Although it has several holes, you’d need to physically cut the drawbar as it would be pushing under the wiring cable, probably easier to make your own.

[adb968008]

Just looking at R3385TTS and something doesn’t look right...

 

Here’s a few pictures I’ve found of it..

 

(Early crest, riveted tender)

http://www.rcts.org.uk/photographs/archive/380/CAR/CAR1065C.jpg

(Late crest smooth tender)

https://i.ebayimg.com/thumbs/images/g/jV8AAOSwaeRZMD6s/s-l225.jpg

 

However between the artwork images and the production images it seems to have changed..

The artwork, shows standard numbers, with the class “5” centre top of the number.

https://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/br-4-6-0-black-5-class-with-tts-sound.html

https://hattonsimages.blob.core.windows.net/products/R3385TTS_3197071_Qty1_cat.jpg

 

But the release has changed to large Scottish numbers, with the “5” now centre under the number...

That’s not necessarily wrong, it worked down to london with large numbers, But this image looks the closest match, early crest, large Scottish numbers.. but the 5 is above the large numbers, with the bottom of large numbers just inline with the frame.. as are all the other images

http://www.rail-online.co.uk/img/s/v-3/p940328814-3.jpg

 

But not higher up as now released..

 

http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/53339/R3385TTS-Hornby-Black-5-Class-5MT-Steam-Locomotive-number-45116#

 

Turns out it’s correct though..

http://www.rail-online.co.uk/p129376112/h5CFCE8F8#h5cfce8f8

 

This loco seems to have had a very varied last 15 years, with at least 4 repaints and several tenders.

Edited October 24, 2017 by adb968008

[Hilux5972]

I’m not sure I understand the purpose of your purpose. If it’s correct as released what the issue?

[RAF96]

People are reporting that wiring route (on similar locos) is fouling on some point and diamond frogs, so it could be better routed to the side given enough slack.

​Rob

[pH]

For some of us,this engine might ring a bell,albeit a somewhat grisly one.45274 was the loco involved in the Sutton Coldfield fatal train crash in 1955.

 

An earlier Hornby Black 5 model - R2857 - was of 45458, which was the engine involved in the fatal Wormit derailment, also in 1955.

[brushman47544]

I’m not sure I understand the purpose of your purpose. If it’s correct as released what the issue?

 

I read adb968008's post as first off questioning whether the livery was correct, then found it was and edited his post with new images to show it.

Edited October 25, 2017 by brushman47544

[adb968008]

I appreciate I went round the houses on that post :-)

I initially thought it was wrong and that the numbers, whilst larger Scottish type, were too high.

Then I also found another picture that was correct.

 

I was a bit surprised to find that in a period of 10years this loco had 4 different styles of repaint. And been caught on camera ex works each time.

Looking at its allocation history it seems to have moved around a bit too.

I wonder if this one was a works queen.

 

Either way i’m Changing my mind about this one.. a Scottish Black 5, with large numbers, that ended up allocated in London in such style...it’s growing on me.

Edited October 25, 2017 by adb968008

[bike2steam]

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I initially thought it was wrong and that the numbers, whilst larger Scottish type, were too high.
 

Many Scottish allocated Black-5's had their numbers placed higher on the cab sides to avoid the tablet apparatus fitted to locos on the Far North line.

[Hilux5972]

I read adb968008's post as first off questioning whether the livery was correct, then found it was and edited his post with new images to show it.

Oh I didn’t realise it was edited. Blind twit I am lol.