shanks522 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Love the last photo, the layout is looking great as is the 47! Its going to be hard to tell the difference between model and real thing! Graham. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMcKenzie Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 13 hours ago, RBE said: Oh I like a scruffy RfD duff. I have the 2mm version of my old 4mm 47210 currently on my workbench! I'm looking forward to seeing your efforts on 47210. Your modelling is always top notch. Will that be a new addition for BOT? All the best Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMcKenzie Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 13 hours ago, shanks522 said: Love the last photo, the layout is looking great as is the 47! Its going to be hard to tell the difference between model and real thing! Graham. Thanks for the kind comment Graham. I've been really enjoying the modelling this winter and I think the enjoyment I've had is also slowly showing on the layout. I'm very impressed with the work Farish have done on the new 47s. Even newbies like me can turn one into a satisfying and pretty realistic model with just a bit of weathering. All the best Dave 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 hour ago, DavidMcKenzie said: I'm looking forward to seeing your efforts on 47210. Your modelling is always top notch. Will that be a new addition for BOT? All the best Dave It will indeed sir!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Hi David, Haven't checked in for a while but love how the scenery is coming together. With the OHLE down, could even be the Great Western mainline! The 47 looks great in its worn condition, cracking but of weathering! Keep up the good work. Best regards, Jeremy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Kynaston Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Hi David, The weathering on that 47 looks superb well done! Richie 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DavidMcKenzie Posted April 4, 2019 Author Share Posted April 4, 2019 After a long time off due to house renovations, a small amount of progress was made. The fence is taking shape. Although very long winded to do . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMcKenzie Posted April 11, 2019 Author Share Posted April 11, 2019 I didn't realize putting up fences would be so time consuming . But at least the far side of the track is now finished. It's the kind of thing that'll probably go un-noticed when it's finished, but should all add to making something half realistic in the end. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DavidMcKenzie Posted April 15, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2019 After finishing the track weathering the first wiries went up. By no means perfect if you look too closely and wouldn't stand up to a rivet counter. But it has made the WCML 'feel' and I'm looking forward to tackling the other three line's. 15 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Looking good. What did you use for the wires themselves? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMcKenzie Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 hour ago, RBE said: Looking good. What did you use for the wires themselves? Thanks for the kind comments :). I used EZ line. I am a fan of Swiss railways and layouts and although they often model the wires I didn't like the thick look of how it's often done with summerfield type wires, they just standout too much in my opinion. I like that the EZ line is there but it doesn't stand out. It is also more obvious from 'below' than 'above' which is think is probably typical of the real thing. The elastic is also very handy. I've already caught it a few time's and done no damage at all. It just pings back into place. One downside to it is that a panatograph probably couldn't ever touch the wires when a train's running. It's just sitting below the wire's. There are a number of colours. I've gone for white, but have no experience of the other colours available, just read online to avoid the black because it disappears into the background. All the best Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) Hi Dave I've heard of the EZ line method before. Doesn't look bad. I have considered it in the past but it doesnt look easy to make the curved top catenary wire and straight contact wire with droppers. It does look fine though. What diameter is it do you know? As for colour, real wires look light green. My next layout will be based on the ECML, mainly due to our class 91 project, and I was planning on doing guitar string OHLE again as I did with Outon Road, the wires would be a tad overscale though at 0.2mm diameter but I think it should still look good. Would like the pans to run on it but it depends how I do the pan design on our 2mm scale class 91. Edited April 15, 2019 by RBE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanks522 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 The wires look spot on Dave! Really enhances the whole scene. Graham 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkie Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Absolutely stunning David . Set's the scene perfect. You should be really proud of what you have achieved considering its not done very often in N Keep up the good work fella Phil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Brady Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Dave Like it , Done a cracking job , as one Class 90 fan to another . we do need to send ours back in time again !!!!!! Cheers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMcKenzie Posted April 16, 2019 Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 16 hours ago, RBE said: Hi Dave I've heard of the EZ line method before. Doesn't look bad. I have considered it in the past but it doesnt look easy to make the curved top catenary wire and straight contact wire with droppers. It does look fine though. What diameter is it do you know? As for colour, real wires look light green. My next layout will be based on the ECML, mainly due to our class 91 project, and I was planning on doing guitar string OHLE again as I did with Outon Road, the wires would be a tad overscale though at 0.2mm diameter but I think it should still look good. Would like the pans to run on it but it depends how I do the pan design on our 2mm scale class 91. The one I've used is '0.2mm' thick. If I was to do it again I would consider using the '0.5mm' for the lower wire. It seems to get thinner as it stretches and the lower wire is (I think) thicker in reality. I am also not sure the thickness quoted by EZ line is exact. I will try to take some pictures as I go doing the next 3 lines. Like most things in life I found it easier after a bit of practice. What worked for me was to make the lower wire tight and the upper wire with just the slightest tension. Then I would glue the dropper wires to the upper first and then pull on the dropper wire to set the tension and the sag in the upper wire and then glue it to the lower whilst waiting for the glue to hold (usually around 30secs). It will probably be clearer with pictures and no need to do it the same way as me in the future. But it might be useful info if you are going to attempt something similar. Looking again at some reference pictures I agree about the light green, I am now just worried it would all be hidden by the green background and not be vizable. If I am feeling brave I might attempt a light painting/washing. Looking forward to seeing you ECML layout and the class 91 take shape Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMcKenzie Posted April 16, 2019 Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 (edited) Thanks to all for the kind comments. Porkie It is a shame not more people give it a go in N gauge. I would not consider myself and expert modeller by any means, but the difference it makes to the feel of the layout is huge. I am sure there are people out there capable of doing better, just a shame most people seem put off by it. Benjamin it would be great to see you turning the clock back to the mid/late 90s All the best Dave Edited April 16, 2019 by DavidMcKenzie 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Thanks Dave. The same diameter as the guitar string then. I think I will probably do it with wire just because I did before and its a know entity for me. It will also mean I can run the pan along the wire if possible. You are correct that the contact wire is slightly thicker than the cantenary wire. The real contact wire is 15mm diameter and the cantenary if I can remember without my notes is nearer 10mm. On Outon Road I did the two the same at 0.22mm which works out around 17mm in 4mm scale. The EZ line says 0.25mm as their diameter. The 0.22mm guitar string will be slightly thinner and the soldered construction shoukd be pretty robust. Needless to say I will watch your progress with interest and start a thread on here with the new layout once I make a start. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy stroud Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Hi Dave, I think your layout looks very good. Those last two pictures really do capture a nice spacious and unclutted scene. The train looks good too as it passes through. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy stroud Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Hi Dave, I think your layout looks very good. Those last two pictures really do capture a nice spacious and unclutted scene. The train looks good too as it passes through. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
87023Velocity Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Nice work David, that will look very smart when done. Should get my finger out and do Dallam! Cheers Simon 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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porkie Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 12 hours ago, DavidMcKenzie said: Porkie It is a shame not more people give it a go in N gauge. I would not consider myself and expert modeller by any means, but the difference it makes to the feel of the layout is huge. I am sure there are people out there capable of doing better, just a shame most people seem put off by it. All the best Dave If I wasn't using the Dapol masts, I would definitely be interested in trying to attach the wires. But just not possible at the moment as my masts rotate to give rail access for cleaning 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMcKenzie Posted April 19, 2019 Author Share Posted April 19, 2019 Hi, The pictures of constructing the wires on the 4th line didn't really show anything. It was very hard to see what was what (see below). So I've just added some photo's of a testing (playing) session once all four line's were completed. All the best Dave 11 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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