DavidMcKenzie Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 3 hours ago, cornish trains jez said: Lovely weathering job Dave. You have a nice fleet of stock matey. Best regards, Jeremy Thanks Jeremy, it's been fun weathering and detailing the stock, finding old photos, learning new techniques etc. I hope all is well, how is your giant project going? All the best, Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMcKenzie Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 A few photos of the freightliner class 47 out on the layout. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan. Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 15 minutes ago, DavidMcKenzie said: Good tip Duncan, I will try that for the next one. Do you use thinners as well? or just the fine wet and dry paper? All the best, Dave No thinners Dave just water and I use a tiny piece of wet and dry about 2cm by 1cm Cheers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted January 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2020 Hi David. I've just spent a little while reading through your thread catching up on progress. I absolutely LOVE the open country section of the layout! So evocative of the WCML. Top work! Tom. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevea Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 On 27/01/2020 at 14:43, DavidMcKenzie said: Hi Stuey, I have done it with a combination of a sharp modelling knife run across the surface and paint thinner rubbed on with a cotton bud. It's still not perfect and leaves little scratch marks, but I found it left less marking than a fiber glass pen. I still found it worth spraying a light coat over once the decals were removed. There maybe be someone out there with experiences of something that works better. But I found it the best compromise. I found the tcut method left a very shinny patch, fibreglass pen did the opposite and left a really roughed up surfaces and those are the only three methods I've tried so far. I hope that helps. All the best, Dave Hi I've had a degree of success in removing decals by using a Staedtler Mars eraser pencil (526 61) - I'm sure other brands are available! A fair bit gentler than a glass fibre pencil, but if you keep it sharpened you can get the point exactly where you need it to removed fine decals. Just have to go steadily and keep cleaning the removed decal material off the eraser every so often on a scrap of paper. Hope this helps Steve 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMcKenzie Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 It's been slow progress over the last month, but I've been having a go at this class 37 in the background. I always liked 37026 in rfd livery, the black headcodes and the snowplough made it stand out to me. One thing I've always found a challenge is making a model look 'old' without getting carried away with heavily weathering it. All the best, Dave 13 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan. Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Hi Dave, I think you've done a good job on the 37. I agree that it is difficult to weather triple grey livery in N. Just keep a photo of a prototype to hand while working on your loco. Cheers Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMcKenzie Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share Posted March 28, 2020 After what feels like an eternity, managed to sneak an hour for modelling today finally. I got started on a new model based on this mainline livery I thought before I get too far I must try lowering the body. Picture below (sorry mobile phone picture in bad light) shows the difference. It will get a run at some point to check it clears all points. But visually it looks much closer to the real thing. One brilliant aspect of rmweb is all the little tricks I have learnt from other people. The transfers have been taped to the window to allow the UV to get rig of that yellow tinge that is so often a problem with transfers. I try to have two jobs on the go at once so one can be worked on whilst the other is drying etc. The class 31 in engineers livery is inspired by Mr Simon's workbench and the great job he does of turning old Farish diesels into cracking models. I am too often guilty of buying the latest model which is usually to a very high standard, rather than using modelling skills to try and improve an old model. So far all it has had is a white wash to dull down the base colours and start to get a streaking effect. A long way to go yet, but hopefully an interesting challenge. All the best, Dave 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted March 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28, 2020 40 minutes ago, DavidMcKenzie said: I thought before I get too far I must try lowering the body. Picture below (sorry mobile phone picture in bad light) shows the difference. It will get a run at some point to check it clears all points. But visually it looks much closer to the real thing. All the best, Dave HI Dave, Hope you are managing to keep busy and stay home and safe. Thanks for the tip about the transfers, not seen that before. How long did you leave them there? Presumably on a window that faced the sun? You may have already explained this, in which case apologies, but how did you lower the height of the 37 body? It looks far far better. Well done. Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMcKenzie Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share Posted March 29, 2020 Hi Rich, Been very busy, the world shutting down has given me the chance to get the loft renovations moving forward. Although not entirely model railway related one of the rooms I am building up there will probably end up being used as the railway room in the future with lot's of natural light which will be a nice change from the dark cellar. I followed this post as a guide whilst lowering the body. I trimmed the PCB in steps (a lot easier to cut more if needed) but came to the same amount trimmed off. Directly in line with the three hole centers. Hopefully it is useful but if anything is not clear feel free to ask, but I think these photos and explanation is better than I could manage . I stuck the transfers to the (south facing) window before going to work and used them the same evening when I got home. I don't have any experience with less time than that, but the day in the sunlight seemed to be enough and there is no yellow tinge left around the transfer after it was applied to the model. All the best and keep safe. Dave 2 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMcKenzie Posted April 1, 2020 Author Share Posted April 1, 2020 (edited) Today started with a complete beginners mistake. I got the mainline transfers nicely on the class 37 and then proceeded to give it a very light chalk white wash to give the paint a slightly worn look. The wash removed all the transfers...... Never mind had enough in the transfer pack for a second go and varnished it this time before taking the next steps. Then came some powders for a change Still a bit to do, especially on the roof and the bogies, but it's slowly coming on. The class 31 looks like a disaster at the moment, but bear with me, it might turn out ok. Just some base layers to build up a few different shades in the weathering and trying to avoid that flat look when only one colour is used. I hope it will improve over the coming days. All the best Dave Edited April 1, 2020 by DavidMcKenzie 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted April 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 1, 2020 Hi Dave, Looks good, only one thing, if you dont mind me being critical .. there wasn't a 37479 ... sorry.... going off the noses I think you may have meant 37679? Rich 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMcKenzie Posted April 1, 2020 Author Share Posted April 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, MarshLane said: Hi Dave, Looks good, only one thing, if you dont mind me being critical .. there wasn't a 37479 ... sorry.... going off the noses I think you may have meant 37679? Rich Great spot rich, definitely something wrong there, I am not even sure which number I've got wrong. Now trying to find my mistake I am also struggling to find a 37 in this mainline triple grey livery with anything other than a center headcode???? 37679 was also a center headcode 37 wasn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkie Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 I'm sure 37709 was a heavy weight two tone grey with mainline branding. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMcKenzie Posted April 2, 2020 Author Share Posted April 2, 2020 9 hours ago, porkie said: I'm sure 37709 was a heavy weight two tone grey with mainline branding. Thanks porkie, saved me from myself there! It also ran on the WCML from time to time (picture of it at rugby below). After the first attempt at transfers washed off I did the second in a bit of a rush and didn't check that the numbers were the same. I don't know why the transfer sheet had 37479 on it. I wonder if it was a misprint for 47479, there are a lot of class 47s on the sheet. I think I will have to go back and transfer the numbers individually which I always find tricky! Despite my best efforts they never seem to end up in a perfect line. Anyway thanks a lot for the spot Rich and then after for saving me from myself Porkie . All the best, Dave 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 If you are doing 37709 be aware that the 7s had one of the bodyside windows plated over each side due to added ballast weight. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted April 2, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, DavidMcKenzie said: Great spot rich, definitely something wrong there, I am not even sure which number I've got wrong. Now trying to find my mistake I am also struggling to find a 37 in this mainline triple grey livery with anything other than a center headcode???? 37679 was also a center headcode 37 wasn't it? Yes the kind of nose end you have means it would have to be one of the refurbished and ballasted 37/7s. As you've already worked out 37709 is certainly an option. Why I thought 37679 fitted when it was a centre-headcode ill just have to put down to being an idiot and not realising! I like the 40B shed code under the high-intensity on 37709 on this shot at Carlisle from Flickr - not sure if it was on both ends at this time tho. Rich Edited April 2, 2020 by MarshLane extra info Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMcKenzie Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 On 02/04/2020 at 10:03, RBE said: If you are doing 37709 be aware that the 7s had one of the bodyside windows plated over each side due to added ballast weight. Another brilliant spot! I totally missed that. I am always blown away with how many knowledgeable people there are in the forum. I was just about to post a few pictures of today's efforts saying 'almost finished' but I think the only way to close the window would be to start again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMcKenzie Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 On 02/04/2020 at 16:53, MarshLane said: Yes the kind of nose end you have means it would have to be one of the refurbished and ballasted 37/7s. As you've already worked out 37709 is certainly an option. Why I thought 37679 fitted when it was a centre-headcode ill just have to put down to being an idiot and not realising! I like the 40B shed code under the high-intensity on 37709 on this shot at Carlisle from Flickr - not sure if it was on both ends at this time tho. Rich I like the shed code position! I will have to incorporate that. Even if it's not on the real thing at both ends I think a little artic license is ok there, you can never see both ends at once anyway 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMcKenzie Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) After help from both Rich and Porkie the 37 finally has a number that makes sense. The close up is a bit crude and shows the numbers are not perfect. But as good as I am able to manage from invidual numbers and at least passable from a distance. The loco itself is also coming on. I am not sure if I will detail the buffer beam yet. My only memories of 37s in triple grey was when they were double heading and I am thinking about fitting this one with the couplings on both ends to allow that. Edited April 4, 2020 by DavidMcKenzie 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMcKenzie Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 The 31 is also slowly improving (not that it was hard to improve on how it looked a few days ago!) I think the next steps are to fit some wire handrails, then the body looks like it needs lowering but that looks a much harder job on the old 31 and finally need to give the buffer beam some thought. I was even wondering if fitting a snowplow might be a good idea to hide the ugly plastic casting at the front of the bogies. All the best Dave 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 15 hours ago, DavidMcKenzie said: After help from both Rich and Porkie the 37 finally has a number that makes sense. The close up is a bit crude and shows the numbers are not perfect. But as good as I am able to manage from invidual numbers and at least passable from a distance. The loco itself is also coming on. I am not sure if I will detail the buffer beam yet. My only memories of 37s in triple grey was when they were double heading and I am thinking about fitting this one with the couplings on both ends to allow that. Looks good but you left the two side windows intact? The 37/7s don't have one of the side windows each side. 15 hours ago, DavidMcKenzie said: The 31 is also slowly improving (not that it was hard to improve on how it looked a few days ago!) I think the next steps are to fit some wire handrails, then the body looks like it needs lowering but that looks a much harder job on the old 31 and finally need to give the buffer beam some thought. I was even wondering if fitting a snowplow might be a good idea to hide the ugly plastic casting at the front of the bogies. All the best Dave The snowploughs is a good idea. If you are adding handrails you will need to channel out grooves beside the doors as the lower half of the handrail is recessed on the 31. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMcKenzie Posted April 5, 2020 Author Share Posted April 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, RBE said: Looks good but you left the two side windows intact? The 37/7s don't have one of the side windows each side. The snowploughs is a good idea. If you are adding handrails you will need to channel out grooves beside the doors as the lower half of the handrail is recessed on the 31. I picked up your message about the closed side window after taking the photos above, you are absolutely right and it's a great spot, but I think the only way to do it is to start again with the model. I will give this a go with time, I have enough transfers remaining, but it won't be in the next day or two , modelling time is unfortunately at a premium at the moment with the loft renovation project ongoing at home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 I understand that, not touched any modelling on the railway for over a year now. Time is so precious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMcKenzie Posted April 5, 2020 Author Share Posted April 5, 2020 1 hour ago, RBE said: I understand that, not touched any modelling on the railway for over a year now. Time is so precious. It's so hard to find the time isn't it. When I do manage I enjoy it so much though, already at my low ' beginner' skill level it's such a nice feeling to get a model finished and running around on the layout. I can only imagine how it must feel when you have created something as amazing as your Burton on Trent layout. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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