rob D2 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Interesting looking wagon that ! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Flood Posted August 20, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2019 (edited) Due to some wonderful service from Stenson Models I can now post the following pictures (due to a bit of an error on my part I didn't order the handwheels until Saturday evening and they arrived this morning). The finished TDA tank together with its cousin as they will be positioned in the rake ladder end view other end view and finally, for a bit of fun, a before and after shot (not very well edited) All in all I'm very, very pleased. Alex will perform his weathering miracles as usual but that will just be a bit of slurry overspill and chassis weathering. To finish. Rob, you posted that it was an interesting looking wagon. Whilst deciding which one to number it as I noticed that four of the ten I have photos for have the barrel reversed so the ladder is to the opposite end of that with the handwheel. I knew that the 16t minerals were rebuilt with a large number having the body reversed but to find a similar difference on basically a new build wagon, very strange. It just goes to show you have to check everything in your prototype photos. Edited August 26, 2019 by Flood 17 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aasmall Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Hello Flood, some very nice wagon modelling their especially the TDA an inspiration! Do you have any pics / details of your PSA Lime wagons and how you did these? thanks Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7APT7 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Hi I have to say, great work on your TDA tanker, looks great, and it will look nice with the its cousin as you say lol Look forward to seeing it on the layout at the next show. Regards Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted September 3, 2019 Author Share Posted September 3, 2019 Thanks for the positive comments guys, always appreciated. I did find my sheet with all the details of which plastic strip I needed to use for the PSA wagons a few months ago (my house needs a tidy every now and again) and I don't think I threw it out. I'll have a look over the next couple of days, it'll be in one of about four piles of paper/notes! So long as I can find it I'll do a scan, find any construction photos and put a post together. Just so everyone knows the exhibitions we are currently invited to are as follows: Shildon October 5th & 6th 2019 Taunton October 26th & 27th 2019 Doncaster February 8th & 9th 2020 If anyone has any contacts who are looking for a 28.5ft x 9ft layout for an exhibition please keep us in mind. One last point. We have been experimenting with programming and using a mini-panel to control some of the trains in the fiddle yard. It will turn on the lights for the selected trains, set the route, start the train to a set speed, stop the train and then set the route for the next train etc. Seeing points change on their own and trains move without touching a controller is a bit disconcerting at first but the process of moving the next train is quicker than an operator can do it and the process also means one operator can still have a set of interesting trains over a lunch period or more conversations can be made with the public. Each sequence takes about 8.5 mins from beginning to end for six train moves and, when tested last weekend, worked perfectly on all but one occasion. That particular time may well have been caused by changing points for other fiddle yard routes being set. So long as an operator is behind the layout and we have a large panic button installed we will at least have a fail-safe option. We won't have another test now until Shildon but we can try it out on the Friday to make sure that there are no problems. One exhibitor commented at Glasgow that he was amazed that we could run a layout of that size with three operators, if all goes well we could be running it for reasonable periods of time with only one! 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted September 5, 2019 Author Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) As requested I have found the sheet which I used to build the PSA wagons. This shows on the left hand side a list of the wagon numbers along with whether they had long or short end steps. Strictly speaking those with short steps had a different style of brake hanger, which may be available from Stenson Models, but I didn't change these. Also shown is the style of Procor emblem on the wagon along with a date for the photo referenced. The centre shows the dimensions of the sides and ends along with those of the top, side and end supports. Over to the right hand side are the Evergreen pack numbers and nearest sizes to what was needed. Also included are the locations of the side and end supports: centre line and 19.5mm gaps for the side supports, 5mm from centre line for the end supports. Next is the basic dimension diagrams for a PSA to help with overall look and construction. To finish are, in some cases very poor, photos of the actual model wagons: A Bachmann TTA as bought. The body is unscrewed and put to one side for numerous other projects. A single PSA wagon. Note that the steps have been moved to the other end of the wagon. Four PSA wagons. Two completed wagons with loads. This is crushed chalk of probably the following approximate ratios: 85% white, 12.5% yellow and 2.5% reddish brown. You really just need to mix your own and keep adding one of the three colours until you are happy with the result. It is a pain to glue, in the end I think I built it up using p.v.a. and did the final layer using contact adhesive. Cracks have now appeared and I need to tidy the loads up again. The Bachmann buffers were replaced with 16", 2ft 0.5 inch Lanarkshire white metal buffers (BP04). Smiths screw couplings have also now been fitted. The light patch on PR25504 is where STEETLEY was originally written on the real wagons. A photo in original condition is shown in British Railways Wagons: The first half million by Don Rowland on page 150. Other photos can be found on Paul Bartlett's site and on Flickr from Huw Millington. Virtually all the transfers are hand made by me. The original Procor logos are smaller than those supplier by Fox, the later style are larger than those on the Fox TTA sheet. I don't know how the Railtec transfers match up. Have fun with your build, I hope these are of use. Edited April 3, 2022 by Flood 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMS Railtech Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 We really love seeing the updates and progress on this awesome layout! Mike 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share Posted September 7, 2019 11 hours ago, KMS Railtech said: We really love seeing the updates and progress on this awesome layout! Mike One day it could all be yours. Just not the freight stock though, I've put a little bit of effort into that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aasmall Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Thanks for posting details of the PSAs Flood much appreciated! andy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted September 11, 2019 Author Share Posted September 11, 2019 (edited) As I said on September 3rd, we have been looking at having an automated sequence for the fiddle yard. In fact Glenn has now bought another mini-panel so we can have one for the night-time sequence and one for the day-time. At the start of this page I said that Alex has been weathering some of my wagons, mainly the Aberdeen - Willesden freight rake. The timber wagons and HEA coal hoppers are very nicely done but his performance on the Molasses wagon and the Gas Oil TTAs is superb. Here is a selection of photos that I took this afternoon. The Bachmann TTA has had the walkways changed as well as being repainted. All in all I feel that freight stock for Kirkhill is now on par with the coaching stock. Alex picked up the TDA for weathering last night so that will be ready for Shildon Exhibition as well. All good news. Edited April 26, 2022 by Flood 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted September 13, 2019 Author Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) Well perhaps we're getting to the stage of Kirkhill that it is nearly finished because the only additions I could think of during the last running session, to supplement the layout, are now shown below. A pair of Caledonian mileposts. Soldered to code 75 rail these have been converted from those available on the North British Society's etch (I'm sure there's some irony in there somewhere). The squares on the cutting mat are 10mm in length. The black line is approximately sleeper height but the 1/2 milepost will probably be mostly embedded in part of the cutting bank at the opposite end of the layout to the shed. At least they will be prototypically mounted on the down side of the track so both can be seen by the public. They will also be a scale 1/4 mile apart! Edited April 4, 2022 by Flood 6 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 Just a quick plug to say that we are at the Shildon Model Railway Club Exhibition (Locomotion NRM Museum) this weekend, October 5th and 6th 2019. Plus we will then be at Rail-Ex Taunton, October 26th and 27th 2019. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggzuk Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Great to see finally your layout in the flesh, at Shildon, and my two boys loved watching the trains on the mainline. I really liked the subtle snow effect. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted October 7, 2019 Author Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Jaggzuk said: Great to see finally your layout in the flesh, at Shildon, and my two boys loved watching the trains on the mainline. I really liked the subtle snow effect. Paul Thank you very much for your kind comments. We had a near disaster at half past two on the Saturday. The dcc point decoders, which are the interface between the programmed mini-panel and the points on the fiddle yard, decided to corrupt leaving us ten failed points (five each end of the fiddle yard). Glenn spent 2 hours hard-wiring the panel back to manual push button control while Alex gallantly turned the depot into an M.P.D by finding as many different loco liveries as possible! So by Sunday morning the layout was back as it had been at Manchester. It worked flawlessly and we were then rewarded with best layout in show at 3 o'clock on Sunday afternoon! We all experimented a bit with photos and videos, some of the photos are shown below. The focus isn't great but the views are certainly interesting. Glenn has some videos that Alex took so I'll see if I can get a link to them. On reflection we had a very enjoyable time, despite Saturday's issues, and I must give a big thank you to Shildon Model Railway Club, and to Robert in particular, for the invite. Edited October 7, 2019 by Flood 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted October 9, 2019 Author Share Posted October 9, 2019 Seeing as we spent most of last Sunday actually enjoying running the layout I had little time to take any photos of the latest stock weathered by Alex. Last night I took the wagons down to the club evening so here are some photos of these wagons, as running in the 08.00 Mossend - Aberdeen which has been strangely diverted via Duffield. Two photos of the completed TDA The two china clay slurry tanks together The ex Texaco TTB now owned by E.G. Steele and on hire for Molasses traffic between Greenock and Inverurie. The complete rake (less an LPG TTA and the TTB) of 6A19. Whilst these are obviously not on Kirkhill they do show the excellent standard of Alex's weathering. Hopefully I can manage some more photos when we visit Taunton in just over two weeks time. In the meantime, please do comment about any part of the layout or its stock that is of interest and we look forward to chatting to any of you who manage to see us at Taunton. 9 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Temeraire Posted October 9, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 9, 2019 Hi Graham I’m looking forward to seeing the new AK for the first time and catching up with you and Glenn at Taunton, we’ll be there with the extended Tidworth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted October 9, 2019 Author Share Posted October 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Temeraire said: Hi Graham I’m looking forward to seeing the new AK for the first time and catching up with you and Glenn at Taunton, we’ll be there with the extended Tidworth. It's always a pleasure seeing you guys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium GWRPhil Posted October 27, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 27, 2019 Was at the Taunton model railway show yesterday. Saw the layout in its new form. It’s really excellent guys. I was very impressed. Here is the first of quite a few photos I took. 11 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Flood Posted October 29, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 29, 2019 I don't think I've ever seen so many photos of the layout and I've not had time to look at the videos yet. I did manage a few on the Sunday (track possession day) which are below: 6A19 Mossend - Aberdeen 6A19 going away Loco refueling point 6M64 Aberdeen - Willesden (out of focus, typical) Molasses tank on 6M64 Failed HST Power Car Postal rake Man with dog (a long time no see) Sunday possession Kings Cross bound HST 21 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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