RMweb Premium Alex TM Posted November 10, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2017 Hi everyone, I have just been given, as an early birthday present, a Hornby Sentinel of the kind found at Dalmellington in Ayrshire. What I am now curious about is whether there were more of the type in use in Scotland. I know there was at least one other alongside the one I have as there's a picture showing both on-shed. That said, I can only guess at the livery (black? markings?). So, can anyone tell me if they know of any other Diesel Hydraulic Sentinels in Scotland, and especially where I may find pictures of them? Thanks in advance for any help offered. Thanks and regards, Alex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Try this link! https://www.flickr.com/photos/12a_kingmoor_klickr/6745471423/in/photolist-bh5iDr-8vVyFG-7z5EPW-8FyCtW-p9jzLK-7z1Spx-7AwoY3-6KWLvf-ei4Y8R-9hwmKR-6bTarr-T3mDUS-rMidGq-5jztNv-aXVKiD-ueyAFb-6KSFSa-6GHRTU-95uaBT-dTDSY2-b51phF-ahMs1r-dgHXi3-de18DV-9LrHVg-bfwrdM-c4n4q7-dTDSVV-dCokEG-7eRj7T-JKjpxq-PjQDnk-iRpoU5-dgHX1Q-pBKix8-eLs9uF-83Mwyg-8rEqEy-mwFVsY-ajxe61-915WCL-YL5Rkq-mJxoQQ-9C4uZv-j9HiQi-imejeZ-ekqg8w-TB5C42-9QyLAE-bXSLN1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Alex TM Posted November 11, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 11, 2017 Hi Mark, Whifflet - d'oh! I've only been near that site on one or two occasions; the first time, there was a small yellow diesel right and the side of the street (at the end of what looked a bit like a run-round). It never occured to me that may have been a Sentinel. Many thanks for the link - it also led to lots of shots of 'Robin' and 'Denis', teo locos I saw many years aog. Regards, Alex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Daddyman Posted November 11, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 11, 2017 "Adam" at Oxwellmains. There was another in yellow, I believe, and lots of demics parked at the north end of the site in the early 2000s. https://www.flickr.com/photos/21513703@N06/32311795700/in/photostream/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Alex TM Posted November 11, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 11, 2017 Thanks for that Daddyman. Any thoughts as to the purpose of the small lighting array above the cab? Regards, Alex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted November 11, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 11, 2017 They look like the radio control lights used at Scunthorpe, they tell the driver what the loco is supposed to be doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Alex TM Posted November 13, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 13, 2017 Hi again folks, Found another one: https://www.flickr.com/photos/36034969@N08/9989389136 The one on the left, of which I have seen a number of images, is clearly blue, but is the one on the right 'black'? I've tried searching for other images of her but with no luck yet. Anyone else able to point me to an image (so I can an idea of markings)? The reason behind this is that I now have three Hornby Sentinels, two of which could be regarded as 'spare'; one is a chain drive while the other has outside cranks. Looking to relivery them, preferably into Scottish based locos. Again, many thanks for all your encouraging help. Regards, Alex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted November 14, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 14, 2017 the one on the right is a 4wh but the other one is an 0-6-0 (cross walkway behind the fuel tank and wider platform) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Alex TM Posted November 14, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 14, 2017 Hi again, Thanks for that. I would never have noticed that detail, or its implications. Regards, Alex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ailg8048 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 according to the accompanying text with the picture both are 4wh, and the 4wh does have a cross walkway too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ailg8048 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 having a look further through some of my pictures and some 4 wheelers have the cross walk, with a shorter fuel tank Preston dock Whilst others have a longer fuel tank and consequently no cross walk OIC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium drjcontroller Posted November 16, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 16, 2017 Hope you don't mind the slight wandering OT, but I thought this picture taken at Andrew Barclays, Kilmarnock in August 1981 may be of interest. The locos came from BSC Teesside and I believe that one or two were refurbished but most were scrapped. Douglas 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 81.1631.jpg Hope you don't mind the slight wandering OT, but I thought this picture taken at Andrew Barclays, Kilmarnock in August 1981 may be of interest. The locos came from BSC Teesside and I believe that one or two were refurbished but most were scrapped. Douglas Douglas Do you have a better photo of 104 as it appears to be in the Dorman livery of green as it would make an ideal livery to change the Tarmac one to? Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted November 16, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 16, 2017 having a look further through some of my pictures and some 4 wheelers have the cross walk, with a shorter fuel tank Preston dock Whilst others have a longer fuel tank and consequently no cross walk OIC Seems I was wrong on this one, searching through all my photos I did find one more 4wh with a cross walkway apart from the Preston docks example but there can't have been very many. My suggestion of a wider platform was a misinterpretation of the photo and anyway I should have noted the buffer beam shape which is of a chain drive loco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium drjcontroller Posted November 16, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 16, 2017 Douglas Do you have a better photo of 104 as it appears to be in the Dorman livery of green as it would make an ideal livery to change the Tarmac one to? Mark Saunders Sorry Mark, it's the only photo I took that day as we were a bit rushed. Douglas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Sorry Mark, it's the only photo I took that day as we were a bit rushed. Douglas Douglas Thanks for the reply, I will go for a grotty version of the livery as a best guess! Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ailg8048 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Seems I was wrong on this one, searching through all my photos I did find one more 4wh with a cross walkway apart from the Preston docks example but there can't have been very many. My suggestion of a wider platform was a misinterpretation of the photo and anyway I should have noted the buffer beam shape which is of a chain drive loco. I don't think there were many. Interestingly the next one off the production line after the Preston Dock ones went to the nearby Courtaulds works and that too has the walkway, maybe it was a batch they did. http://martynhilbert.railpic.net/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=1506 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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