RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted July 20, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) Not sure if this helps, but here's an old map grab of Whitby WIll be there for a week soon, so if you want any photos Edited September 14, 2022 by RedgateModels lost image deleted 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGR Model Store Posted July 20, 2018 Author Share Posted July 20, 2018 Not sure if this helps, but here's an old map grab of Whitby Capture.PNG WIll be there for a week soon, so if you want any photos Thank you, All photos I need now are of parts which have long gone unfortunately but thank you once again. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGR Model Store Posted July 23, 2018 Author Share Posted July 23, 2018 Interesting update this morning ... The two main platform 1 signals in development. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marly51 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 (edited) Not sure if this helps, but here's an old map grab of Whitby Capture.PNG WIll be there for a week soon, so if you want any photos Wonderful old maps! Anthony - Have you tried the National Collection of Aerial Photography in Edinburgh? https://ncap.org.uk There is nothing showing online when I put ‘Whitby’ in the search but, when I was researching Lairg Station and Brickworks in Sutherland, NCAP advised me they had boxes of aerial photographs which will take years to scan and they only put a selection on the website. Although the aerial photos, when zoomed in, are a bit fuzzy, it has helped us identify some of the key structures. Always worthwhile enquiring? Marlyn Edited July 23, 2018 by Marly51 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGR Model Store Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) Wonderful old maps! Anthony - Have you tried the National Collection of Aerial Photography in Edinburgh? https://ncap.org.uk There is nothing showing online when I put ‘Whitby’ in the search but, when I was researching Lairg Station and Brickworks in Sutherland, NCAP advised me they had boxes of aerial photographs which will take years to scan and they only put a selection on the website. Although the aerial photos, when zoomed in, are a bit fuzzy, it has helped us identify some of the key structures. Always worthwhile enquiring? Marlyn Thank you, I will take a look, but I doubt the photos would be able to get so close to ground to see line side huts ( which whtby had a few / all different sizes / shapes ) You get the idea in this shot, normal line side hut one side and completely different rounded edge hut next door, Sorry for my over size finger... Other news signals are almost completed .. Edited July 25, 2018 by AGR Model Store 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted July 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2018 I remember those two signals 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGR Model Store Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 I remember those two signals You might remember these two as well ... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted July 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2018 I remember one and a half of them as platform three was lifted in the 50s I believe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted July 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2018 I remember one and a half of them as platform three was lifted in the 50s I believe Weren't the tracks too close together so they could use one or the other so lifting one made sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGR Model Store Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 I remember one and a half of them as platform three was lifted in the 50s I believe Platform 4 I believe it was renumbered to platform 3 after one of the bays got lifted in 56/57 ? and platform 4 signal was preposition in front of WT box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGR Model Store Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 Weren't the tracks too close together so they could use one or the other so lifting one made sense. Interesting not heard that before, Ive not got any photos of two locos sat next to each other in the bays, but I do have parcels vans or fish vans sitting in platform 4's bay with a bay 3 sitting with 3/4 coach train. Maybe it was used more as station siding for loading ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Amongst the traffic seen at Whitby, at least into the late 1960s/early 1970s was steel plate in Plate wagons for a local ship builder/repairer. I have seen a photo of a wooden-bodied Long Low (LMS-built) at Whitby, taken in the very late 1960s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted July 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2018 Interesting not heard that before, Ive not got any photos of two locos sat next to each other in the bays, but I do have parcels vans or fish vans sitting in platform 4's bay with a bay 3 sitting with 3/4 coach train. Maybe it was used more as station siding for loading ? Can't remember where I heard/saw it, thought it was in Ken Hoole's terminus book. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGR Model Store Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 Amongst the traffic seen at Whitby, at least into the late 1960s/early 1970s was steel plate in Plate wagons for a local ship builder/repairer. I have seen a photo of a wooden-bodied Long Low (LMS-built) at Whitby, taken in the very late 1960s. Do you read minds ? Would not mind seeing the photo though you talk about. Can't remember where I heard/saw it, thought it was in Ken Hoole's terminus book. I'll have to double check and get my reading glasses on, Thank you! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 There are a couple of photos on Page 63 of 'Working Wagons- volume 1 1968-73' by David Larkin. One is a late -surviving ex LMS Long Low, as modelled by Chivers Finelines, another is a BR-built fitted one. There were at least two other Plates with these. I would imagine Whitby's fishing fleet would have justified a couple of black tank wagons on the quayside. I'm not sure if motor fuel was dealt with, as this about the time that larger depots, dealing with at least half-a-dozen tank wagons at a time, started to be built. Previously, petrol-carrying tanks were unloaded by siphoning via the top hatch, often into 'jerry-cans'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGR Model Store Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 There are a couple of photos on Page 63 of 'Working Wagons- volume 1 1968-73' by David Larkin. One is a late -surviving ex LMS Long Low, as modelled by Chivers Finelines, another is a BR-built fitted one. There were at least two other Plates with these. I would imagine Whitby's fishing fleet would have justified a couple of black tank wagons on the quayside. I'm not sure if motor fuel was dealt with, as this about the time that larger depots, dealing with at least half-a-dozen tank wagons at a time, started to be built. Previously, petrol-carrying tanks were unloaded by siphoning via the top hatch, often into 'jerry-cans'. I will have find a copy, Thank you! Tankers are one of lest seen in any photograph I've found / seen at whitby, I'm in the same mind that their would of been a few laying around. BP used to own a garage on station square, and I'm sure I've seen a photo of 2 'BP' Tankers lined up in the sidings nearest the town. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted July 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2018 Platform 3 was missing until the end of the real station in September 1984 Im sure I heard somewhere that platform 3 was only suitable for shorter pre nationalisation stock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 I remember those signals as well, they were both ‘planted’ in No.1 platform. No.20 being almost in the middle (width-wise) As to platforms 3 and 4, there was a restriction on Mark 1 coaches using those platforms – you couldn’t put Mark 1s into either if the other was occupied. I guess they were OK for 57ft stock. This from BR Standard Coaching Stock restrictions (1961) Whitby Station. If on No. 3 Platform Line, No. 4 Platform Line to be blocked, and vice versa. Platform 3 was still there in mid-1959 according to a dated photo in one of John Hunt’s Past and Present books on the NYMR. I don’t think platform 4 was renumbered to 3, My sketch of Town signal box diagram made in the 1970’s shows it as 4. Platform 4 seemed rarely used in later days; my memory suggests dated and Sunday services? Stuart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted August 4, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 4, 2018 (edited) Look where I am this evening 🙂 Edited August 17, 2022 by RedgateModels 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGR Model Store Posted August 6, 2018 Author Share Posted August 6, 2018 I remember those signals as well, they were both ‘planted’ in No.1 platform. No.20 being almost in the middle (width-wise) As to platforms 3 and 4, there was a restriction on Mark 1 coaches using those platforms – you couldn’t put Mark 1s into either if the other was occupied. I guess they were OK for 57ft stock. This from BR Standard Coaching Stock restrictions (1961) Whitby Station. If on No. 3 Platform Line, No. 4 Platform Line to be blocked, and vice versa. Platform 3 was still there in mid-1959 according to a dated photo in one of John Hunt’s Past and Present books on the NYMR. I don’t think platform 4 was renumbered to 3, My sketch of Town signal box diagram made in the 1970’s shows it as 4. Platform 4 seemed rarely used in later days; my memory suggests dated and Sunday services? Stuart Maybe local Sunday summer services ? Their was regular miners train most weekends from middlesbrough. Which was formed of suburban stock. Look what I found, The gap looked tight ... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 My memories are 1967 onwards (I can just remember my mother buying me a ticket at Lealholm station and putting me on a green DMU to be picked up by Father in Middlesbrough). The dated services I remember would have been 1740-ish to Newcastle and 2109 SO Middlesbrough, both of which were limited stop after Grosmont. On Sundays, there was quite a gap between the last arrival and first departure of the three trains so the shortest might have gone into 4 (no carriage sidings at Bog Hall by then). That second photo in your post is the scene I was trying to envisage in my mind (having walked down that platform over a thousand times) about the platform number signs – so thank you! Memory jogged. I also think the chap on the left, pushing the barrow, was the regular porter/escort/minder on the school train. His face, I can see, but his name……. Maybe local Sunday summer services ? Their was regular miners train most weekends from middlesbrough. Which was formed of suburban stock. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted August 14, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 14, 2018 Not sure if this helps, but here's an old map grab of Whitby Capture.PNG WIll be there for a week soon, so if you want any photos That's interesting just noticed there appears to be some railway on the south bank of the Esk? Many year ago there was a trial ironstone mine on the north bank in this vicinity which consisted of a shaft but was not a success and filled in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted August 14, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 14, 2018 That's interesting just noticed there appears to be some railway on the south bank of the Esk? Many year ago there was a trial ironstone mine on the north bank in this vicinity which consisted of a shaft but was not a success and filled in Internal tramway for the shipyard, unfortunately there was never a bridge over to that side of the river (apart from when building Larpool viaduct), a goods only branch over there would make an interesting layout though... https://maps.nls.uk/view/125625244 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted August 14, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 14, 2018 (edited) Cheers Paul, I never knew about that, take it it was standard gauge. Was the shaft where the carriage sidings were? Edited August 26, 2018 by russ p Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delticfan Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Love this thread, good to see authentic NER, what did you use for the brickwork on the buildings, they are little works of art. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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