Piemanlarger Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Lol no worries. I either get it or I dont Knowing my luck if I do the Dapol one will be " flown" in for easter lol. If I dont it will be next Easter! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidmouth Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 13 minutes ago, Piemanlarger said: Lol no worries. I either get it or I dont Knowing my luck if I do the Dapol one will be " flown" in for easter lol. If I dont it will be next Easter! funny you should say that :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted March 14, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Piemanlarger said: Dont think it will be mine tomorrow so just have to hope the Dapol one makes it soon or just keep my eye on Ebay as I dont know anywhere else they come for sale that I can access? Steamline and Ellis Clark both have them reasonably regularly. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piemanlarger Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Hal Nail said: Steamline and Ellis Clark both have them reasonably regularly. My god you have just caused me some trouble and possibly my even earlier demise. Steamline was a sight I'd seen before but could not re-find. I've only got 1 working kidney and am thinking of selling that now lol. Seriously thanks for the heads up. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BECMAYE Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Does anyone know what is happening with these? Are they in production or are they on hold? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted May 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, BECMAYE said: Does anyone know what is happening with these? Are they in production or are they on hold? Tower : These were due for release around Easter 2021. The events of last year and this year have played havoc with planned release schedules and sadly the 45xx has been a victim of these delays. We have not had an update from Dapol as to when we should expect these. As soon as we have details I will update this page 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted May 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 23, 2021 On 20/01/2021 at 10:24, Hal Nail said: The previously reported order of releases had the Mk1s, bolster E, conflats and 122 railcar ahead of it so can probably gauge from when they actually start to come out. Mk1s and 122 (and 121) been/being produced and they have implied that the bolster is next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
73080 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Lionheart Trains advert in May 2021 Gauge O Guild Gazette states that the 45xx models are: "Expected in shops Late Summer 2021". 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neal Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 I would expect that to be a long Indian summer...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted May 24, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 24, 2021 23 minutes ago, neal said: I would expect that to be a long Indian summer...... Anyone know when summer is expected this year? Adverts go to press ages before so can be inaccurate although something like that does give an indication that it is progressing at least. Those retailers giving updates quoting the manufacturers tend to be the most reliable source I find. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piemanlarger Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 I think summer may be at Xmas this year ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adrian Stevenson Posted August 21, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 21, 2021 Dapol are going to be at the O gauge get together at SVR next weekend, so if there is no update prior, I will ask. Cheers, Ade. 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted August 21, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) I'm still not convinced we've had summer yet. Hold that thought - the sun has just come out, maybe this evening is it! Edited August 21, 2021 by Hal Nail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidmouth Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 I got drenched today . My wallet is happy if they are later , but I would like to have one in my hands Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madreddog Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Definitely summer. The rain proves it! On topic: I'd like a 45xx but only once I see one running. Off Topic: I'd like to see a Metro Tank, 517 class and a Dean Goods in RTR next....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steam69 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 On 21/08/2021 at 17:09, Adrian Stevenson said: Dapol are going to be at the O gauge get together at SVR next weekend, so if there is no update prior, I will ask. Cheers, Ade. Ade Dapol are not the manufacturer of this Loco, unless Richard Webster is on the stand he is the designer and manufactures under the Lionheart label. Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adrian Stevenson Posted August 22, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2021 Richard is usually on the stand at most shows as I normally have a word with him. Hopefully he will be at this one too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadnought05 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 On 22/08/2021 at 13:56, Madreddog said: Definitely summer. The rain proves it! On topic: I'd like a 45xx but only once I see one running. Off Topic: I'd like to see a Metro Tank, 517 class and a Dean Goods in RTR next....... Here's a video from the original Lionheart run a few years ago which is a brass model. Dean goods is a great suggestion, I'd like to see a 2251 especially given Heljan have dropped it. Or perhaps a 4F. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dreadnought05 said: Here's a video from the original Lionheart run a few years ago which is a brass model. Dean goods is a great suggestion, I'd like to see a 2251 especially given Heljan have dropped it. Or perhaps a 4F. I do like the Dean Goods, despite not being a GWR man. ISTR Heljan dropped the 2251 a while ago so another candidate there. However, Dapol/Lionheart already have a slew of GWR locos it seems to me and, for balance, something LMS would be grand. 4F or 3F would be great or even a 2-6-2T. Should be something that carried over into the BR era and not too big. John Edited August 23, 2021 by brossard 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madreddog Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 9 hours ago, brossard said: I do like the Dean Goods, despite not being a GWR man. ISTR Heljan dropped the 2251 a while ago so another candidate there. However, Dapol/Lionheart already have a slew of GWR locos it seems to me and, for balance, something LMS would be grand. 4F or 3F would be great or even a 2-6-2T. Should be something that carried over into the BR era and not too big. John Any company that decides to make a tender loco like those mentioned needs to watch which tenders they choose. If they were used with more than one class it therefore reduces the tooling cost should they wish to add one of these other classes to their range. The Dean tenders could be seen behind other classes. The Fowler 4F would be a good choice seeing as Lima once made one; that tender was used behind other classes too.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted August 24, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Madreddog said: If they were used with more than one class it therefore reduces the tooling cost should they wish to add one of these other classes to their range. This was Heljans logic but they've still decided to abandon the Collett goods, presumably on the back of the slow sales of the Mogul, so dont hold your breath... Edited August 24, 2021 by Hal Nail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 36 minutes ago, Hal Nail said: This was Heljans logic but they've still decided to abandon the Collett goods, presumably on the back of the slow sales of the Mogul, so dont hold your breath... Strange that Mogul sales were not good. My friend has one and it seems to my untutored eye to be a good model. I just wish he's get off his butt and get the sound decoder so we can play with it. It looks to me that Heljan have hitched their wagon to the diesel market. I'm hoping that Dapol/Lionheart focus on steam. Mind you, and we've talked about this before, Lionheart are supposed to doing a BR Std 3 - where the heck is that? John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidmouth Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Hal Nail said: This was Heljans logic but they've still decided to abandon the Collett goods, presumably on the back of the slow sales of the Mogul, so dont hold your breath... In Heljan's case I suspect the reputation that their steam products has gathered has probably counted against them in terms of the second wave of sales . In conversation with friends into O gauge , those who own products all comment on build quality and even at discounted prices £400+ I still expect a product that is fit for purpose my £200 Dapol engines all work beautifully and look fabulous Really hoping Dapol would pick up the 22xx mantle 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpgibbons Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 My guess is that Dapol will keep their 7mm focus on tank locos, which have the right price point and the biggest market. If they were to go for a GWR tender loco, then a Dean rather than Collett Goods would have the broadest appeal. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall5 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 23 hours ago, Madreddog said: Any company that decides to make a tender loco like those mentioned needs to watch which tenders they choose. If they were used with more than one class it therefore reduces the tooling cost should they wish to add one of these other classes to their range. The Dean tenders could be seen behind other classes. The Fowler 4F would be a good choice seeing as Lima once made one; that tender was used behind other classes too.... The 4F had the same 8' x 8'6" wheelbase as the Jinty, 3F and 2F so I wonder if the Jinty chassis could, with larger wheels, could be used for a 4F, 3F etc. The same Johnson tender could be used on all 3 classes although, latterly, Fowler tenders were more common on the 4F's. Ray. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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