grahame Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, njee20 said: They’re in the “News” section of his website. The latest one on the APT is #3, so number 4 hasn’t made it yet, and nothing on the N gauge one at all that I can see. The last 92 one (indeed the last post) is the 11th Feb, which I don’t think is up to date either. Ah, found it, the 'News' section is under the 'About DJM' section. But yep, precious little about the N gauge products and no newsletters about them (this year) to download that I could see. Just this about the cl92 which was dated 28th Jan - "The N gauge class 92 cad/cam will follow shortly after CNY and i will send pictures from that in a further newsletter to all customers, then on this web site, as is my custom, around 2 weeks later". G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, RedgateModels said: No sign of #4 newsletter on the APT though. He probably just forgot .... Hmm, not good, eh? G 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubber duck Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 51 minutes ago, grahame said: Hmm, not good, eh? G Its fine by me, I'm financially supporting this product and received my email yesterday, some lovely little details to look forward too.... So until any of the moaners on here produce their own version of the APT I'll stick with this one. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 minute ago, rubber duck said: Its fine by me, I'm financially supporting this product and received my email yesterday, some lovely little details to look forward too.... So until any of the moaners on here produce their own version of the APT I'll stick with this one. Let's hope he hasn't forgotten any lovely little details like he forgets to post update information. Without that the project is unlikely to attract any new customers to sign up and could put its future at risk. It's not great marketing especially as I'd like to see them progress to fruition, particularly the N gauge ones. G 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted March 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 26, 2019 I think we will just have to let Dave manage his business in his own way. Personally I am only an interested observer, having decided at the outset that his APT-P project was too much for me. I'm keeping my Hornby one and slowly building intermediate coaches. So, I'd like to see more updates etc as the APTs are a strong childhood interest, but hey life goes on if Dave misses a couple of postings on his website Can't see an N gauge version ever getting to tooling though ... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted March 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 26, 2019 Particularly not if he pretends it doesn't exist! I'd still be interested in having one, but presume it's gone the way of the dodo... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted March 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 26, 2019 I can neither confirm nor deny that we may have circulated an update on the progress of the APT project. Should such an update have been circulated then it may or may not include information on the status of this project, however any information it may contain is classified and for the eyes of the Easter bunny only and should be disregarded. If you have received said update, in the event that it actually exists then please discard it and under no circumstances should it be read, believed or shared with other persons. Under no circumstances should any hypothetical updates which may or may not have been circulated be shared with outsiders, this is a local project for local people, in the event that any traitorous RMWeb collaborationists post any information on any updates which may or may not exist then the ancient god of undersized coreless motors will rise up to break the bones and drink the blood of such traitors. You have been warned. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 If you ask me, the best thing the crowdfunders who post on here they have had an update could do is not post such notices. All it actually does is stir up the threads into the regular cycle of: I've had an update I too have had an update but I am not going to say anything about the goodies The website isn't up to date When is the update going to be on the website This is not a good way to market DJM products Crowdfunders to non crowdfunders: "Will non crowdfunders please stop commenting" non crowdfunders to crowdfunders: "No" Just as a complete aside, but last night i was operating my railway and I noted that the smoothest running locos on it are four DJM locos (Well Tanks & O2s) plus my Oxford Radial. My DJM 14xx is also a smooth runner, but it's back in it's box at present. 5 4 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubber duck Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, woodenhead said: If you ask me, the best thing the crowdfunders who post on here they have had an update could do is not post such notices. All it actually does is stir up the threads into the regular cycle of: I've had an update I too have had an update but I am not going to say anything about the goodies The website isn't up to date When is the update going to be on the website This is not a good way to market DJM products Crowdfunders to non crowdfunders: "Will non crowdfunders please stop commenting" non crowdfunders to crowdfunders: "No" Just as a complete aside, but last night i was operating my railway and I noted that the smoothest running locos on it are four DJM locos (Well Tanks & O2s) plus my Oxford Radial. My DJM 14xx is also a smooth runner, but it's back in it's box at present. So whats the point of this thread if the people that are actually funding this project can't post on it? If you ask me id suggest this thread would be much better without all the wasters who have no intention pf purchasing the APT....Just my opinion you understand.... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 minute ago, rubber duck said: So whats the point of this thread if the people that are actually funding this project can't post on it? If you ask me id suggest this thread would be much better without all the wasters who have no intention pf purchasing the APT....Just my opinion you understand.... And the cycle repeats ...... This thread is not owned by DJ models therefore it is open to anyone to comment - funder or just interested entity, but what happens is that each month someone will post an 'I have had an update but no content' then the cycle starts. If the crowdfunders actually contributed something other than 'I know something you don't' then perhaps the discussions might be more interesting. 3 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted March 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, woodenhead said: I Crowdfunders to non crowdfunders: "Will non crowdfunders please stop commenting" 16 minutes ago, rubber duck said: So whats the point of this thread if the people that are actually funding this project can't post on it? If you ask me id suggest this thread would be much better without all the wasters who have no intention pf purchasing the APT....Just my opinion you understand.... LOL 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted March 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 26, 2019 54 minutes ago, rubber duck said: Just my opinion you understand.... Sometime it's best to keep opinions to yourself. Or circulate them in an update that no one can read or divulge. 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted March 26, 2019 Administrators Share Posted March 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, chris p bacon said: Sometime it's best to keep opinions to yourself. Or circulate them in an update that no one can read or divulge. Very true. If you just want to throw abuse around, I don't care if you do couch it in "Just my opinion you understand.... " as though that absolves you, then prepare for a trip to the naughty step. 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted March 26, 2019 Moderators Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, rubber duck said: wasters 5 hours ago, rubber duck said: moaners Easy to resolve this for you - I'll remove access to this topic. 11 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted March 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) The newsletter discusses the window to the side of the cab, the nose, bogies and the cab Interior and finishes with the following statement: As ever, please remember that this newsletter goes out to you as a customer, and will not go straight out for public consumption until 2 or so weeks have passed. This is to play fair with all crowdfunders who may not get access to this newsletter as soon as you may have done. No subterfuge, no secrecy, just common decency. Edited March 26, 2019 by 96701 Typing rubbish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroborus Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 The CAD is in this month's model rail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Davexoc Posted March 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 26, 2019 I reckon there will be an announcement on Monday from either Rapido or Accurascale to the effect of they're already at 1st EP on this.... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Markwj Posted March 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 26, 2019 Well it's been nearly 4 days without an announcement someone is bound to announce something! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubber duck Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Ladies and Gents. I'd like to apologise for my unsporting choice of words used in my posts yesterday, In hindsight it was too harsh and uncalled for, I need to remember that other people may have different views to me, after all this is a very broad church that i would like to remain a member of.... once again apologies for any offence caused. Regards Peter. 3 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Western Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Why doesn’t someone who has the newsletter just post it ? Your not under any any legal obligation not to surely, DJ isn’t going to cancel your order is he? It’s a toy train, albeit a very expensive one it’s not state secrets ! All this secert for two weeks nonsense just pushes potential future customers further and further away. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdvle Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Great Western said: Why doesn’t someone who has the newsletter just post it ? Your not under any any legal obligation not to surely, DJ isn’t going to cancel your order is he? It’s a toy train, albeit a very expensive one it’s not state secrets ! All this secert for two weeks nonsense just pushes potential future customers further and further away. The irony is anyone who just posts it would probably be doing the project a favour given the lack of website updates at the 2 week point... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, mdvle said: The irony is anyone who just posts it would probably be doing the project a favour given the lack of website updates at the 2 week point... Ah, but how else is he supposed to punish all of us naughty children who did not join the program if it was posted right away? Next time there is a DJM crowdfunding project, you had better join in quick or else you will miss the newsletters. Edited March 28, 2019 by JSpencer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted March 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, Great Western said: Why doesn’t someone who has the newsletter just post it ? Your not under any any legal obligation not to surely, DJ isn’t going to cancel your order is he? It’s a toy train, albeit a very expensive one it’s not state secrets ! All this secert for two weeks nonsense just pushes potential future customers further and further away. if there was a major developments you can be sure someone would “leak” something, and this thread would be over flowing with excitement. The absence of froth, means the water isnt boiling, the mail therefore wasnt that exciting. That said Kernows/Olivias “secret” emails are held pretty tightly too, but theres carrots, rather than sticks in those mails to do so. Edited March 28, 2019 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted March 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28, 2019 Maybe that's why newsletter #4 didn't make it to his website - it was just a "touch base" with investors and not much of real interest to the wider community. Or he just forgot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdvle Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 hour ago, JSpencer said: Ah, but how else is he supposed to punish all of us naughty children who did not join the program if it was posted right away? Next time there is a DJM crowdfunding project, you had better join in quick or else you will miss the newsletters. If that is his reasoning, then I am reminded of the phrase "before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig 2 graves" However, I think regardless it is reasonably safe to guess that there won't be any more crowdfunding after these projects. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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