RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 28, 2020 21 minutes ago, jwealleans said: I have no idea where I've dredged this snippet from, but something is telling me that two of the Westerns had them. 1006 and 1039. Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lezz01 Posted February 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 28, 2020 Cheltenham model center has commissioned the westerns from Dapol and they are currently being advertised in the toddler and Hornby mag. At a not too terrible price either. No connection just interested and thinking of buying one as I don't have a western. Regards Lez. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted February 28, 2020 Author Share Posted February 28, 2020 OI !!!! 3 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 29, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 29, 2020 Mike. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullie Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said: Mike. Do you have sugar in that? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 It's all the Wild West to me..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted February 29, 2020 Author Share Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) Or a load of high drollox.... ANYHOW Never happier than with a hot soldering iron in his hand, Andrew called in at HQ overnight. Anxious that the 'Up' (downhill) operating shouldn't feel left out, they too now have a nice shiny control panel with lots of buttons and lights to banjax and befuddle the bewildered. This should reduce nay eliminate the current tendency - despite best human endeavour - for up trains to return to a fiddle yard road of their choice rather than the one they're supposed to be heading for... Should be in operation at York. Edited February 29, 2020 by LNER4479 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted February 29, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 29, 2020 Nice big fettler's hammer on the wall in the other room. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted February 29, 2020 Author Share Posted February 29, 2020 ... right next to the attitude adjuster. 2 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Sim Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Looks like it was a fun time for all, can’t wait to see it in the flesh! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Quote This should reduce nay eliminate the current tendency - despite best human endeavour - for up trains to return to a fiddle yard road of their choice rather than the one they're supposed to be heading for... Doing that back at base would also reduce the alarming tendency of apparently isolated trains to set off when he poked his iron into something under the baseboard (as did happen at Glasgow). 1 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 (edited) Noticing that there was an LMS service at the start of the sequence that I managed to miss, peeling away at Glasgow after the 50 finale, I was wondering...... ................................................ .................................................................................. .................................................................................................... .....................................................................................................................How about an LNWR train or two Edited March 1, 2020 by woodenhead 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 There was a Claughton? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfofBadenoch Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Had to walk past this at Glasgow last week............................ it was too busy, but went back for a couple of views in the last 90 minutes as things got quieter. Didn't see the whole sequence (as there's so much to see in the rest of the hall), so nice to see the set of photos depicting the various eras. Great layout and looking forward to seeing the rest of your masterplan being created. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfofBadenoch Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 I also meant to say i (and my dad), were very impressed with the banking / double heading of trains. How long does it take to set that up so that locos of different classes run at the same speed on DC? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted March 1, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 1, 2020 On 27/02/2020 at 19:10, jwealleans said: One for Mr. Duck. I gather he is the author of this rather nice kitchen car. Thank you Welly. I can not take responsibility for anything other than soldering most of that together and making a pretty pattern of items on the roof. I did not do the vents as I did not have no vents when I dun it. Whoever has done the rest has made a damn fine job. I woud suggest to the C & W Foreman that he has a shufty at those naughty Comet bogies as, like on most Comet builds, the ride height might just need a tad adjusting 'up'? I builded it so I feel like I can suggest that if that is OK? One other thing, that is one serious train and as for that loco, I have seen it at work and it sounds like a diesel at speed. If anyone doubts what it could have been like if BR could have had the time and be arsed to modify it, then look at this..... https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=duke+of+gloucester+on+the+devon+banks+u+tube&&view=detail&mid=14F852AB3F980CA1B2E114F852AB3F980CA1B2E1&&FORM=VDRVRV Duck. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted March 2, 2020 Author Share Posted March 2, 2020 10 hours ago, WolfofBadenoch said: I also meant to say i (and my dad), were very impressed with the banking / double heading of trains. How long does it take to set that up so that locos of different classes run at the same speed on DC? It's just a case of trial and error. For a double header, you ideally need a the pilot loco to be a little more 'keen' than the train engine. Modern Hornby locos tend to start sooner than Bachmann ones so the double-headed parcels works quite well as the train engine is a Bachmann 'crab'. For banking, you're looking for a situation where train loco is ideally doing two thirds of the work. This caused an issue with the Hornby Fowler 2-6-4Ts as they were too 'keen' and trying to push the whole train. Solution was to wire some resistors in series with the motor to slow them down. Also had to do same thing with Hornby Crosti 9F on the car train as, despite the not inconsiderable weight of 11 bogies with 4 die cast cars on each, it was still walking away with it, with the Bachmann Fairburn 2-6-4T trailing in its wake. Once train and banker are matched then they stay rostered together - change them at your peril! 5 1 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted March 2, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 2, 2020 Testing banking operation on Wentworth junction I haven't tried to match the locos at all (they can't stay on the same trains anyway) and nearly all combinations seem to work. Looking along the train as it climbs the hill you can see where the couplings (DG) go slack and it's usually about halfway or so - but my trains are only moving at walking pace or not much faster. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted March 2, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Michael Edge said: you can see where the couplings (DG) go slack and it's usually about halfway or so That sounds about right - each loco doing half the work. We used to get odd wear patterns on HSTs where the two middle trailers were coupled together - if both power cars were running properly the middle couplings were neither pushing nor pulling. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfofBadenoch Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 4 hours ago, LNER4479 said: For banking, you're looking for a situation where train loco is ideally doing two thirds of the work. I'm sure you'll be happy to hear that although I can't remember which train it was, on the one i remember being banked, you could see in the couplings, that the banker was pushing about the last 1/3 of the wagons. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted March 2, 2020 Author Share Posted March 2, 2020 Yes, and do bear in mind that some of the trains being banked on Shap are 3 link couplings so best not to try pushing too many of those. 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LNER4479 Posted March 31, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2020 Well, the world really has been turned on its head, rotating on a different axis, etc since we last spoke. Crikey... As you will all be aware by now, no York show appearance over Easter now (well, not as far as 2020 is concerned). One 'silver lining' to all this however, is that I have been able to bring forward the plans I had for 2020, as follows: This is the current space over on the 'daylight' side of the chapel with neither Shap nor Grantham set out. With Shap's visit to York postponed till 2021, that meant that I have been able to make a start on shuffling 'stuff' around. From approximately the same viewpoint, this is the Shap Wells scene set out in its intended location within the overall scheme of things. The wicker chairs on the right hand side are amongst many of the things that had to be moved - their backs indicate the approximate location of the edge of the Carlisle board in the centre of the room … Hang on, we need a diagram: Right, the bit shaded yellow is the Shap Wells (bank) scene. One thing I'm checking here is clearances or space available in operating areas or 'wells'. Not that there's a great deal I can do about it if I am to fit in all that is planned. But I think the photo above shows that there is a reasonable amount of space to hand here, between Shap and Carlisle, so as to enjoy the Shap scene as well as being able to 'get at' the east side of Carlisle station. This then is the resulting space between Shap and Garsdale, a Vee shape, tapering to nothing at the far end but a reasonable space to view Garsdale station from its northern end, where it will curve round onto Dandry Mire viaduct. One think not apparent here (but clearly shown on the plan) are the northern approaches to Carlisle which are designed to partly tuck under Shap Fell. They're not intended to have any scenic treatment; merely a (busy) stretch of four track railway with a set of double junctions to sort traffic out and send it on to its intended route / destination. The key thing for now is that there will be an additional six inch encroachment into this space, but I think it should still work out OK. Finally (for now), this is the work at hand to provide the structure (which will be permanent) to connect up the bottom of Shap to the 'Grand Junction' of lines in this bottom corner. Plenty to keep me busy during the lockdown situation. 30 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BoD Posted March 31, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2020 It's an ambitious plan and I'm looking forward to seeing it progress. Will Shap be permanently 'built into it' or do you have a plan that allows it to be temporarily removed for further exhibitions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 No, the whole idea is that certain sections (including Shap) will be removeable. Shap's only just getting going on the show circuit so I certainly don't want to cut it off at the knees in that respect. Other bits might need to be dismantle-able in order to get Shap out. Not decided yet but it could be the case that the grand scheme is part dismantled during show season (say October to March) then set up again in the spring / summer for operating sessions? It can get pretty cold in the chapel in the middle of the winter! 8 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Sim Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 9 hours ago, LNER4479 said: No, the whole idea is that certain sections (including Shap) will be removeable. Shap's only just getting going on the show circuit so I certainly don't want to cut it off at the knees in that respect. Other bits might need to be dismantle-able in order to get Shap out. Not decided yet but it could be the case that the grand scheme is part dismantled during show season (say October to March) then set up again in the spring / summer for operating sessions? It can get pretty cold in the chapel in the middle of the winter! A magnum opus if there ever was one! I’m too as eager to see it finished, can’t wait to have a drive as well, if I am ever so privileged. It does get very cold in the chapel, I couldn’t feel my fingers when I was glueing the station support brackets on Grantham. Is there a way to add a heating system? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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