Titan Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 5 hours ago, Mike Bellamy said: If you think some railway modellers are a bit obsessive about the number of rivets, you should look at caravan forums about weight limits and licence categories - RMweb is so calm in comparison . . . ! ! If you want to see them go apoplectic just add towing with a grey import into the mix! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted June 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2021 15 hours ago, RJS1977 said: I was quite disappointed, having failed my test pre the 97 changes and passed after, to discover that that delay meant I wasn't entitled to drive traction engines! (Not that I've ever had opportunity to, other than a miniature one round the RSME car park!) As traction engines tend to be driven by two people, one steering and one controlling the valve gear, regulator and brake while managing the boiler and fire, which would need a licence, when the latter is nominally the 'driver' ? I've had the pleasure of steering a small one (Wallis & Steevens tractor) around the Great Dorset Steam Fair ground (though not in the 'Play Pen') with the owner driving. It is possible to drive single handed, more easily on smaller engines. The owner referred to would go to and from rallies single handed, towing a water tank and a Land Rover on an A-frame. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted June 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2021 1 hour ago, petethemole said: As traction engines tend to be driven by two people, one steering and one controlling the valve gear, regulator and brake while managing the boiler and fire, which would need a licence, when the latter is nominally the 'driver' ? I've had the pleasure of steering a small one (Wallis & Steevens tractor) around the Great Dorset Steam Fair ground (though not in the 'Play Pen') with the owner driving. It is possible to drive single handed, more easily on smaller engines. The owner referred to would go to and from rallies single handed, towing a water tank and a Land Rover on an A-frame. Did the owner bash any bridges on the way? Just to get back on topic! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted June 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2021 To keep it at least railway related, he was a former Eastleigh fireman. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted July 5, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 5, 2021 I popped down to Tess Coes Pitsea this afternoon only having to turn round within sight of the store and take a four mile detour due to a truck stuck under the bridge at Pitsea. When I left the store I saw a Network Rail van marked response unit passed by heading for the station and the truck was still stuck under the bridge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Photos here. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-57722591 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Hope they throw the book at the driver. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted July 5, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 5, 2021 The question is how did it get stuck in the first place? I drive under that bridge on an almost daily basis and even normal double deck buses have no problem negotiating that bridge. It appears to be a standard shipping container on a normal skeletal trailer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Trainshed Terry Posted July 5, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 5, 2021 1 hour ago, PhilJ W said: standard shipping container Unfortunately that is one of the larger containers that are in service which are if I remember correctly 9ft 6 inches high and 45 feet long. The large 45 is a clue to the containers size. Terry. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted July 5, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 5, 2021 According to the signage the bridge is 13' 6" so that still leaves four foot. I suspect the container was empty and the lorry was riding high. Another mystery is why was he driving on that particular piece of road when the A13 running parallel was only a few metres away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 8 hours ago, Hobby said: Hope they throw the book at the driver. Oh don't worry. They will. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 13 hours ago, PhilJ W said: According to the signage the bridge is 13' 6" so that still leaves four foot. I suspect the container was empty and the lorry was riding high. ..... The road markings looks fairly crisp .......... maybe 13'6'' didn't take the latest layer of tarmac into consideration ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted July 6, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 6, 2021 34 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: The road markings looks fairly crisp .......... maybe 13'6'' didn't take the latest layer of tarmac into consideration ! As I said above I drive under that bridge on an almost daily basis and it is several years since the road was re-surfaced. The road markings were getting worn however and were only repainted in the last 18 months. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium rab Posted July 6, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 6, 2021 4 hours ago, PhilJ W said: As I said above I drive under that bridge on an almost daily basis and it is several years since the road was re-surfaced. The road markings were getting worn however and were only repainted in the last 18 months. Obviously the thickness of the road lining paint is to blame 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 (edited) 19 hours ago, PhilJ W said: According to the signage the bridge is 13' 6" so that still leaves four foot. As the standard 5th wheel height is usually 1250mm - a couple of inches over 4ft - there's the gap filled already, without the added height of the skelly. Been a few years now since I was an HGV driver, but I'm pretty sure hi-cube boxes bring the height to 14ft-6in or -9in. There's no way that rig was going to fit under a 13ft 6in bridge. The trouble with boxes is that they don't actually have their external height marked on them, IIRC. They are either 'standard' or 'hicube'; a recipe sure to catch out inexperienced drivers, and as I've related before on this Thread, there are a LOT of inexperienced HGV drivers around these days. Edit: scrubbed the height bit, which I obviously didn't recall correctly as jonboy has pointed out, hicube boxes do carry a height warning. There's still a lot of inexperienced drivers out there, though..... Edited July 6, 2021 by F-UnitMad Duff gen. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Jonboy Posted July 6, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2021 (edited) Every HQ box I have seen at work has a yellow warning box with black writing “CAUTION 9’6” HIGH” per the image on this page https://containertech.com/articles/40-standard-vs-40-high-cube-container Edited July 6, 2021 by Jonboy 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welly Posted July 6, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 6, 2021 ^^^ And the wasp strips at the top corners 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, Welly said: .... And the wasp strips at the top corners They're there for camouflage when you scrape the wasp stripes off the bridge. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Smeeton Posted July 6, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 6, 2021 He definitely wasn't just pootling along, thinking "I wonder if this will fit?" was he. Regards Ian 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted July 7, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 7, 2021 8 hours ago, Ian Smeeton said: He definitely wasn't just pootling along, thinking "I wonder if this will fit?" was he. Regards Ian Looking at his Pratnav? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ncarter2 Posted July 10, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 10, 2021 Following the bridge bash in Winchester last September, the driver has been sentenced. I have been to far to many of these in my career, the last one prior to this being in Christchurch. https://apple.news/AiM7wIujXQtapt44vDI1tCw 4 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthesnail96 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 On 23/06/2021 at 14:37, petethemole said: As traction engines tend to be driven by two people, one steering and one controlling the valve gear, regulator and brake while managing the boiler and fire, which would need a licence, when the latter is nominally the 'driver' ? I've had the pleasure of steering a small one (Wallis & Steevens tractor) around the Great Dorset Steam Fair ground (though not in the 'Play Pen') with the owner driving. It is possible to drive single handed, more easily on smaller engines. The owner referred to would go to and from rallies single handed, towing a water tank and a Land Rover on an A-frame. Late response to an off topic question, but the driver is the one in charge, which is the one with the regulator, reverser and slightly token brake to hand, not the one furiously spinning a wheel around in the hope of having some impact on the direction the thing is pointing! Incidentally I'm fairly sure you can still drive a traction engine on rubbers on a car license but you certainly can't drive a roller, steam or otherwise- that requires a Category G license. You can steer one without (I do from time to time) but not drive. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted July 18, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 18, 2021 The protection beam at Chinley seems to be quite effective by the look of the marks on it. These are just a few. It's slightly lower than the brickwork on this side because there is less clearance above the road at the other side of the line. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Reorte Posted July 19, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 19, 2021 13 hours ago, TheSignalEngineer said: The protection beam at Chinley seems to be quite effective by the look of the marks on it. These are just a few. It's slightly lower than the brickwork on this side because there is less clearance above the road at the other side of the line. Not applicable in this particular case but a lot of bridges around there are doubled up from when it was quad, although it's back to double track now. The remaining track is on the downhill side so anything too low heading down the hill on the roads will conveniently hit the disused bridge first. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Can I ask a question about OHLE in Manchester? 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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