Chuffer Davies Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Miss Prism said: There can't be many places with wooded slopes so steep, and the milk tank or two on the rear might help spot the location. Wye Valley perhaps? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 6375 at South Molton, 18 April 1960 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted January 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) How about this spot in the Lower Slade Valley? Can't work out how to do a direct link to OS maps via Bing: Plausible location for engine, 'S' bend in track, very steep wooded valley. Edited January 15, 2021 by spamcan61 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Harlequin Posted January 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) Barnstaple Victoria Road, Dulverton and Wiveliscombe, same day (18th April 1960): Edited January 15, 2021 by Harlequin 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 My gut feeling is somewhere on the Barnstaple line, which was profusely wooded, but I didn't know it was quite so mountainous. How's about the approach to Venn Cross viaduct? - about half way down this page: https://www.tauntontrains.co.uk/oldsite/MEMORIES-BARNSTAPLE.htm 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JST Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 28 minutes ago, Miss Prism said: My gut feeling is somewhere on the Barnstaple line, which was profusely wooded, but I didn't know it was quite so mountainous. How's about the approach to Venn Cross viaduct? - about half way down this page: https://www.tauntontrains.co.uk/oldsite/MEMORIES-BARNSTAPLE.htm Whoa! Such memories! The photo at Dulverton really struck a chord with me. As a lad I used to travel regularly from Exeter to Dulverton on the train (relatives farmed on Exmoor) and I remember great excitement one day seeing two Moguls there at the same time as my Exeter 14xx. I could have been on that train! And yes... I concur with Miss Prism. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulwell Hall Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 6 hours ago, Miss Prism said: There can't be many places with wooded slopes so steep, and the milk tank or two on the rear might help spot the location. Aberystwyth - Carmarthen line - the 'Manchester and Milford?' 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2021 The train appears to be corridor stock in a one-colour livery so will be 1956 onwards. Allocations derived from BR Database and SLS info on that site 83B Taunton 4w/e19/05/1956 85A Worcester 4w/e 05/10/1960 84B Oxley 4w/e 24/03/1962 89B Croes Newydd 4w/e 14/07/1962 (BR Database) 89A Shrewsbury 4w/e 03/11/1962 TO STORE 4w/e 09/02/1963 (SLS quoted on BR Database) To Western Region 4w/e 02/03/1963 (SLS quoted on BR Database) 87G Carmarthen 4w/e 29/06/1963 WDN 4w/e 29/09/1963 Except where noted the dates roughly tally. Given the state of the stock it looks a while past 1956. 1 hour ago, spamcan61 said: How about this spot in the Lower Slade Valley? Can't work out how to do a direct link to OS maps via Bing: Plausible location for engine, 'S' bend in track, very steep wooded valley. Ilfracombe was one of my thoughts as I rode in and out of there behind GWR moguls, but IIRC that didn't have check rails. The pole route was on the outside of the wooded curve and I couldn't resolve it with having milk tanks on the train 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted January 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) The ballast looks very clean and tidy, bound to be a line due for closure. EDIT: ...and it closed in 1965 ;-) Edited January 15, 2021 by spamcan61 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted January 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 15, 2021 https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=51.19238&lon=-4.13298&layers=168&right=BingHyb 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pteremy Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Miss Prism said: My gut feeling is somewhere on the Barnstaple line, which was profusely wooded, but I didn't know it was quite so mountainous. How's about the approach to Venn Cross viaduct? - about half way down this page: https://www.tauntontrains.co.uk/oldsite/MEMORIES-BARNSTAPLE.htm There are certainly photos of 6375 on the line in 1959 and 60. I do not think I have seen a photo of the line with a slope that steep, that high. Much of the line traversed shallower, broadly E-W trending valleys. I did wonder about the western portal to Castle Hill Tunnel, at the eastern approach to the viaduct, but I think that the trees were more dense and more mature than in your photos by the late 1950s. I don't think that the slope above the other tunnel, Bathealton, was as high. As far as the train is concerned 3 coaches would be fine for the line, but would have more commonly included a B Set in 1959/60. Similarly milk tanks were occasional sent to and from Torrington by this route, but as far as I can recall when photographed were next to the engine. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) The line into Ilfracombe was also double track from Barnstaple Town so definitely not at Slade Reservoirs Edited January 15, 2021 by TheSignalEngineer 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted January 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, TheSignalEngineer said: The line into Ilfracombe was also double track from Barnstaple Town so definitely not at Slade Reservoirs Ah yes, that did occur to me when I started digging out my books on the line! Edited January 15, 2021 by spamcan61 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarryscapes Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 6 hours ago, Oldddudders said: Which implies a river or estuarial location. The Cambrian seems a possibility. Nope, not Cambrian. Possibly on the Manchester & Milford though 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarryscapes Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 I knew this pic looked familiar, seen elsewhere captioned: "Carmarthen allocated 43xx Class 2-6-0 No 6375 navigates the heavily wooded valley near Conwil with the 10.40am Carmarthen to Aberystwyth service on the 10th August 1963. Note the milk tankers on the rear, conveyed from Felinfach milk factory and left at Lampeter for delivery to Carmarthen." 4 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Miss Prism said: My gut feeling is somewhere on the Barnstaple line, which was profusely wooded, but I didn't know it was quite so mountainous. How's about the approach to Venn Cross viaduct? - about half way down this page: https://www.tauntontrains.co.uk/oldsite/MEMORIES-BARNSTAPLE.htm That was one I looked at quite closely and it looked to be the most likely spot of any between Barnstaple and Taunton but several things didn't match all that well including the way the land went immediately alongside the railway. But it would suit the engine allocation up to 1960. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, Quarryscapes said: I knew this pic looked familiar, seen elsewhere captioned: "Carmarthen allocated 43xx Class 2-6-0 No 6375 navigates the heavily wooded valley near Conwil with the 10.40am Carmarthen to Aberystwyth service on the 10th August 1963. Note the milk tankers on the rear, conveyed from Felinfach milk factory and left at Lampeter for delivery to Carmarthen." And going from your suggestion how about this - 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2021 Which is just here where the curve starts to reverse, abouta mile or so from Conwil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted January 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2021 The road in that locality has some pretty tight bends as well! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Budgie Posted January 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2021 On 14/01/2021 at 09:52, melmerby said: No. That's a censer. It would provide authentic, if unusual smelling smoke to your layout. Before I decided that I didn't believe in all that stuff, the Catholic church called their censers thuribles. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Budgie said: the Catholic church called their censers thuribles. As do High Church Anglicans. I gave my Dad's to the old friend who performed his funeral and Mom's. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted January 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2021 On 11/01/2021 at 14:32, TheSignalEngineer said: The only problem I have is the pony truck occasionally derailing on the straight side of the first set of points on the main line after leaving one end of the fiddle yard. Having run several laps with mine hauling three Hawksworths I am very pleased, but do have that pony truck waywardness over a couple of Code 83 Peco points, facing but in the straight position, where it climbs the switch rail. It runs smoothly over others and all the Code 75 stuff. I have not needed to alter any CVs except the address. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Oldddudders said: Having run several laps with mine hauling three Hawksworths I am very pleased, but do have that pony truck waywardness over a couple of Code 83 Peco points, facing but in the straight position, where it climbs the switch rail. It runs smoothly over others and all the Code 75 stuff. I have not needed to alter any CVs except the address. It leaves me wondering if the pony truck is a bit light or the spring needs to be a bit stronger. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted January 16, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 16, 2021 6 hours ago, Oldddudders said: that pony truck waywardness I have two double slips and two single slips on the layout (scratchbuilt in code 75 bullhead). My Mogul runs well through all of them except for one straight route on one double slip in one direction, when it derails by taking the wrong road at the elbow. Solution: bar the loco from that goods yard. 4 hours ago, TheSignalEngineer said: It leaves me wondering if the pony truck is a bit light or the spring needs to be a bit stronger. I wonder whether the spring/cam arrangement is causing a slight bias to the right. If it starts to happen elsewhere I might try lubricating the slides as suggested in the manual. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 16, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2021 8 hours ago, St Enodoc said: I wonder whether the spring/cam arrangement is causing a slight bias to the right. If it starts to happen elsewhere I might try lubricating the slides as suggested in the manual. I had the same issue with the close coupling cams on some Hornby coaches. The bogies didn't want to follow the track in one direction but when turned they were OK. I cleaned off the edges of the rubbing surfaces and they have run perfectly well since. As far as I can tell my Mogul only shows the issue in one direction. Turning it and running through a similar point configuration at the other end doesn't cause problems. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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