RMweb Gold tetsudofan Posted December 20, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2017 Ditto ditto for the 70. Many years ago, I thought, “Wouldn’t it be nice to have a colour television at Christmas?” Stupid idea. Licence now falls due just before Christmas. It costs more-or-less the same as a shiny new loco and only lasts a year. Give up the TV!! I did when my late Mum (who held the licence) went into care and have not missed the TV since then. Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Give up the TV!! I did when my late Mum (who held the licence) went into care and have not missed the TV since then. Keith I cancelled Sky. I’ll do without the extra loco each year for the sake of “Freeview”. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synch Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 31-147 Class D11/1 No. 501 ‘Mons’ in Great Central Railway livery 2 21 PIN £174.95 D11_Mons_2.jpg Well that's quite a bit of my money gone! Looks to be far more correct then Butler Henderson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWT442 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 I see the Colas 70 is now showing as Dec/Jan on the Bachmann website now. Wonder what's taking so long in getting it out, especially when the Class 47's released this month were announced after the Colas 70. Andy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIAM Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Thanks for the head's up. It does seem a little at odds with Bachmann's website such as listing 66728 which the website doesn't show due until March/April. As already mentioned the new class 70s are an interesting omission too given the website says Dec/Jan. Time will tell... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spet0114 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Looks to be far more correct then Butler Henderson. More correct in what sense? As far as I'm aware, the model of Butler Henderson was a very accurate represntation of it's (then) current condition. Are you saying that the model of Mons is a more accurate representation of a pre-grouping loco than that of B/H? If so, then please can you point out some of the differences? This is a genuine question as I'm always interested to know how our preserved locos differ from the period they're intended to represent. Cheers Adrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Riddell Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) More correct in what sense? As far as I'm aware, the model of Butler Henderson was a very accurate represntation of it's (then) current condition. Are you saying that the model of Mons is a more accurate representation of a pre-grouping loco than that of B/H? If so, then please can you point out some of the differences? This is a genuine question as I'm always interested to know how our preserved locos differ from the period they're intended to represent. Cheers Adrian From what I can see, the livery is more correct for the pre-group era, namely the lettering on the tender and the lining around the cab sides. However the model still has raised rivets on the smokebox wrapper and cab roof which shouldn't be there for the loco in that period. Mike. Edited December 23, 2017 by M.Riddell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synch Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 More correct in what sense? As far as I'm aware, the model of Butler Henderson was a very accurate represntation of it's (then) current condition. Are you saying that the model of Mons is a more accurate representation of a pre-grouping loco than that of B/H? If so, then please can you point out some of the differences? This is a genuine question as I'm always interested to know how our preserved locos differ from the period they're intended to represent. Cheers Adrian Mainly down to the livery, Butler Henderson is modeled as preserved are there are significant differences to how it was restored vs how it was when first turned out of Gorton, mainly the incorrect font and lack of polished trim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted January 4, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 4, 2018 Phew, no Colas class 70 this month, gonna save me a few bob (although I do have the WCR 47 on order) But no SECR lake ones in the list Bad news... these are showing on the Bachmann New Arrivals webpage as already here... Disappointed the TPO Stowage Vans haven't appeared on the list. I understood they were signed off for production a few months ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37501 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 I emailed Bachmann in November asking about the TPO stowage vans. They said March 2018.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
89A Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Did the Arriva Trains Wales Sprinters miss the boat or have they arrived and been sent back. Now showing May/June 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Before I try and contact Bachmann, has anyone received info from them or their retailer about the non appearance of the three main range Class 47s that were on this December 2017 list - 31-660A BR blue large logo 32-818 West Coast 32-819 Virgin Totnes Castle As these were in production and due to be shipped in December, they would be expected to have appeared in late Jan early Feb. I have an order in for the Virgin Totnes Castle, but all my retailer has is that it hasn't appeared on any retailer list from Bachmann, of expected releases, up to and including February. The recent 'Availability' index on the current Bachmann website shows all three as 'Out of Stock' which in the past, for an item in production/shipping indicated that there had been a production problem. Have these models been affected by production issues, similar to the Reps Special Class 47 in InterCity livery, or are they being held back due to the number of reps 47s being released. Either way, having released info that they are on their way, it would help if Bachmann advised the reason for the release delay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spet0114 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Before I try and contact Bachmann, has anyone received info from them or their retailer about the non appearance of the three main range Class 47s that were on this December 2017 list - 31-660A BR blue large logo 32-818 West Coast 32-819 Virgin Totnes Castle As these were in production and due to be shipped in December, they would be expected to have appeared in late Jan early Feb. I have an order in for the Virgin Totnes Castle, but all my retailer has is that it hasn't appeared on any retailer list from Bachmann, of expected releases, up to and including February. The recent 'Availability' index on the current Bachmann website shows all three as 'Out of Stock' which in the past, for an item in production/shipping indicated that there had been a production problem. Have these models been affected by production issues, similar to the Reps Special Class 47 in InterCity livery, or are they being held back due to the number of reps 47s being released. Either way, having released info that they are on their way, it would help if Bachmann advised the reason for the release delay. Don't forget, just because something appears in one of the 'incoming' threads, doesn't mean it'll be arriving anytime soon. We had some discourse over this when the threads first started and Bachmann admitted that all it really means is that an advance sample has been air-freighted to Bachmann. There may be a considerable delay between that event and when the container turns up on the boat. See here: (bottom of post #19) http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/105181-Bachmann-incoming-november-2015/ Cheers Adrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Don't forget, just because something appears in one of the 'incoming' threads, doesn't mean it'll be arriving anytime soon. We had some discourse over this when the threads first started and Bachmann admitted that all it really means is that an advance sample has been air-freighted to Bachmann. There may be a considerable delay between that event and when the container turns up on the boat. See here: (bottom of post #19) http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/105181-Bachmann-incoming-november-2015/ Cheers Adrian I recall this being covered by Andy Y in the past, in that these lists released by Bachmann, show items in production and due to be shipped from China in the stated month. Of course they may not be shipped if production doesn't go to plan. The Class 47s I've shown were all showing on box shifter retailers sites as Jan/Feb releases, which seems to tie in with the December production. However as they now have an 'Out of Stock' rather than an ETA on the Bachmann Availability database and retailers don't have updated release info, are we in for a longer wait, it's that info on the Availability site that has prompted my question. If there was a short term delay, you'd expect a revised ETA to be shown. I may be adding 2 and 2 and making 5, but as I said, it's been reported here that one of the Reps Special Class 47s was rejected on arrival at Barwell and I assume that the main range and Reps Special 47s would have been part of a common production run. I've checked the whole December list and most items have arrived at retailers, apart from the 3 Class 47s, a Class 150/2 sound version and two wagons (VDA and OTA). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spet0114 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 ...due to be shipped from China in the stated month.... That's the common misconception - see the post I linked to. The appearance on the 'incoming' list and the shipping of the container of models may not happen in the same month, or even the same quarter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted March 9, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2018 There's also 47209 Herbert Austin in RfD from Andy's January list still to appear. There are so many 47s arriving at the moment, which will have been manufactured as one production run, that they will not all have been shipped from China together and some containers shipped late have been known to overtake others. It all depends where the ship calls on route and where any transshipment is made. I suspect we will continue to see new 47s appearing over the next few weeks before everything known about has been released. Not everyone wants 47s, so Bachmann has to keep other newly arrived models flowing from the warehouse too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Hayter Posted March 9, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2018 It is also worth remembering that if there was any delay in shipment for whatever reason, then Chinese New Year will likely have intervened. Given this affects all Chinese manufacturers, when things get back to normal there will be a backlog for containers and shipping slots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinC37LG Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 We had our volumes for 47209 and 47444 confirmed by Bachmann last week, so probably not far away. Also that those two are sold out at source. We didn't order any virgin ones, so can't comment on those. Cheers Martin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James90012 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 47814 is in stock at Kernow! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Bendall Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Did the Arriva Trains Wales Sprinters miss the boat or have they arrived and been sent back. Now showing May/June 2018 While reviewing the sample supplied to Rail Express Modeller, I noticed a decoration error that had escaped Bachmann's attention. Once informed, Bachmann opted to stop the shipment and return them to be corrected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
89A Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Thanks for that Simon. I thought something must be up. At least it gives more time to find the extra 30% these are retailing at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1023 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 While reviewing the sample supplied to Rail Express Modeller, I noticed a decoration error that had escaped Bachmann's attention. Once informed, Bachmann opted to stop the shipment and return them to be corrected. Coach numbers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinC37LG Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 We had our volumes for 47209 and 47444 confirmed by Bachmann last week, so probably not far away. Also that those two are sold out at source. We didn't order any virgin ones, so can't comment on those. Cheers Martin Both now in stock, and very nice they look to! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIAM Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Both now in stock, and very nice they look to! Any idea what's happened to West Coast Railways' 47245? Didn't appear with the other recently released catalogue 47s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37501 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I notice that the TPO stowage vans have been bumped to July as well. Bachmann rep told me March which became May and now July.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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