burgundy Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Further to the gas lighting question. It was discontinued pretty damn quick after the Quintinshill smash. Only really used for catering vehicles after the 1920s. Jason Gas lighting was still the cause of many of the fatalities at Charfield in 1928. Best wishes Eric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmay2002 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Further to the gas lighting question. It was discontinued pretty damn quick after the Quintinshill smash. Only really used for catering vehicles after the 1920s. No it wasn't. Most companies had stopped building new gas lit stock before WW1 but there was an awful lot of it about. The LNER had only 3950 electically lit coaches out of 21000 vehicles in 1923. 68.9% of GWR coaches were gas lit in 1925 and they handed over 389 gas lit coaches to BR in 1948. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Oil lamps simply sat in a socket in the coach roof. To close the hole left when they were removed (e.g. during the summer months or when the carriages were out of use) a bung was provided sitting in, and attached by a short chain to, a ring adjacent to the lamp, often on the centre line or sometimes to one side. Therefore you have to either model the lamp top and the bung beside it, or the bung in the lamp socket and the empty ring. Modelling the chain depends on your level of pedantry! Jim 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Oil lamps simply sat in a socket in the coach roof. To close the hole left when they were removed (e.g. during the summer months or when the carriages were out of use) a bung was provided sitting in, and attached by a short chain to, a ring adjacent to the lamp, often on the centre line or sometimes to one side. Therefore you have to either model the lamp top and the bung beside it, or the bung in the lamp socket and the empty ring. Modelling the chain depends on your level of pedantry! Jim MJT/Dart produce a nice set of lamp tops and bungs. As a Light Railway operator, you might have a limited service - daylight only in the summers month, so the lamps might not be mounted at all, leaving just the bungs, as Jim points out. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Rixon Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) MJT/Dart produce a nice set of lamp tops and bungs. As a Light Railway operator, you might have a limited service - daylight only in the summers month, so the lamps might not be mounted at all, leaving just the bungs, as Jim points out. Yes, the railway might not mount the lamps in the summer, but surely that would mean that the bungs would be inside the lamp covers and thus invisible? I.e. the cylinder with the perforations and the hinged lid is always present, being fixed to the roof, and has either a lamp or a bung inside it. Edited January 5, 2018 by Guy Rixon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Yes, the railway might not mount the lamps in the summer, but surely that would mean that the bungs would be inside the lamp covers and thus invisible? I.e. the cylinder with the perforations and the hinged lid is always present, being fixed to the roof, and has either a lamp or a bung inside it. Not so. This scan, from the aforementioned book, includes a photograph of early carriages (thought to be ex Scottish Central Railway) in the carriage sidings alongside the Dundee line on the north side of the Tay at Perth. The caption explains things. Other photos in the book clearly show the bung in the lamp socket and the empty ring beside it. Jim 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Not so. This scan, from the aforementioned book, includes a photograph of early carriages (thought to be ex Scottish Central Railway) in the carriage sidings alongside the Dundee line on the north side of the Tay at Perth. The caption explains things. Oil lamps.jpg Other photos in the book clearly show the bung in the lamp socket and the empty ring beside it. Jim Third coach showing lamp covers unscrewed 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dseagull Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 (edited) Here's a couple of the Ratio 4 Wheelers which I built and painted in what can only be described as 'municipal lamppost green' (actually a Tamiya USAF Olive rattlecan!) They were built for a light railway plan which was scrapped in a house move and are still awaiting a layout project, but I think they scrub up quite nicely. These two have been altered with Dean buffers and screw links. Edited January 6, 2018 by dseagull 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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