Popular Post Trev52A Posted July 31, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2018 First of all, apologies for the late uploading of 50th anniversary ramblings recently - we've been on grandchildren duty and I haven't had time to update each day's events any earlier in the day! And so we reach: Wednesday 31st July 1968 An early start saw me on the 07.55 ex-Arnside dmu which took me all the way to Bolton-le-Sands, presumably for a change of location for photography. Passing Carnforth shed I had noted 44781, 75019 and 45025 in steam. The scene at Bolton-le-Sands mustn't have been very inspiring and the only steam activity I saw was 45342 heading north and 75019 going south, both light engine, without taking a picture of either. Soon deciding to cut my losses I boarded a northbound train behind D387 at 08.53 and headed for Carnforth. At least there was usually some activity to watch here! Sure enough 45025 was shunting at the south end of the station. 45025 at Carnforth station on 31st July 1968 (At this point I have to be rather vague, as the pictures I took of the next loco, along with other negatives of preserved locos in the 1960s, seem to have gone astray. Hopefully the box I know they are in will reappear during the periodic sort out which is long overdue!) I think I must have heard the familiar chime whistle of what I assumed was 70013, but it turned out to be the preserved A4 No 4498 'Sir Nigel Gresley' which was calling in at the shed for a top up before resuming its light engine movement from Crewe. After a major overhaul it was on its way to its new home under cover on the National Coal Board system at Philadelphia, near Sunderland. (I know someone will point out there is a difference in the sound of a 'Brit' and an A4's whistle but to a 17 year old who had not heard an A4 for almost a year the chime was very similar.) My notes tell me I photographed the A4 under the coaling stage, presumably seen from the footpath at the side of the shed, then I took two more of it setting off northwards light engine. The thing which sticks in my mind was the headboard which proudly proclaimed 'Britain's Finest Locomotive'. There'll be arguments about that, I thought at the time! After the excitement of a preserved steam locomotive, back to reality! Returning to my spot from yesterday, alongside the lines to Barrow, I discovered the bridges over the river at the north of the shed. (Chris Turnbull knows where I mean!) Here's a view of 45342 entering the shed. Damn! I wish had waited half a second before firing the shutter and I would have got the back of the tender in the picture. Also I'm not sure if that pipe on the riverbank in the dead centre of the shot does anything for the composition! 45342 near Carnforth shed on 31st July 2018 Another loco I noted here was 45390. At this point I must have decided to take the bull by the horns and actually go in to the depot and take some photos - I had seen others doing the same, and they couldn't all have had prior permission, could they? Still a bit wary though, I kept clear of the shed buildings and stayed out in the open, making sure I didn't get in anyone's way. Here are a few from that first 'visit'. 45390 goes for a spin on 31st July 1968 Close-up of the crew of 45390 Sadly I did not note the number of this 8F 2-8-0 with the painted-on Rose Grove shed plate. Hopefully someone might be able to identify it. I wonder if the figures on the left were staff members or enthusiasts also there to take photographs. At this point I decided that discretion was the better part of valour and bid a hasty retreat off the premises, although my curiosity had been aroused and I felt I couldn't miss out on the chance of having a 'proper' visit before steam finished in a matter of days. So, back to the station and on to the 14.41 train for Preston with D1627 doing the honours. On the way I noted 45260 heading south light engine and 45212 at the station itself, presumably on one of the short trip workings in the area. My visit to Preston today however was more business than pleasure, and I made for the BR office block in the town, where I hoped to have the nerve to just go in and ask for a shed permit, please! Expecting to be thrown out of the building I came away instead with the necessary piece of paper covering not only Carnforth but also Rose Grove and Lostock Hall! Then it was back to base via the 17.35 dmu from Preston to Carnforth (where I had a definite shed visit planned for tomorrow!) and on to Arnside behind D404. Another unsuccessful shot of the Barrow parcels (passing through at sunset behind 44871) rounded off a memorable day. More tomorrow. Trevor 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Trev52A Posted August 1, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2018 An early start and I might just get this on before the grandkids arrive! Thursday 1st August Over the course of this week and the earlier one, from the Youth Hostel I had seen early morning steam-hauled trains crossing the Kent viaduct, and had actually photographed them from my window on two occasions. Belatedly I must have realised these were regular workings and worth getting out early to see at close quarters. So, catching the 07.55 dmu I alighted at Silverdale, the stop between Arnside and Carnforth, and was able to photograph 75048 in pleasant surroundings with the short train of wagons I had only previously seen from a distance. 75048 heads west at Silverdale on 1st August 1968... .. followed shortly afterwards by 45231 with a ballast train Then it was off to Carnforth on the 09.23 train pulled by D1621. Now armed with a shed permit I could access the depot via the official entrance over the footbridge, but first a picture of 45134 on the turntable. This shot also shows three of the other locos put aside pending preservation, as mentioned in detail earlier (much earlier!) in this thread. Once inside the shed area I was able to capture some good views of locos standing, including several interesting 'old&new' comparisons I rather liked this view, showing 75019 and 44709 by the water columns. And here's one of the few I took inside of 44709, before it came out for water After a happy hour or so at Carnforth shed I decided on a change of scene and caught the 14.41 train to Preston behind D1846. Nothing much must have been happening there - I made no entries in my notebook and my camera wasn't in action once - and at 16.45 I called it a day and left on a dmu heading north. I must have lingered at Carnforth station for a while but caught the 20.20 train from there to Arnside, pulled by D410, where I saw 44894 doing the honours on the 20.28 ex-Barrow parcels. More on 2nd August, including my first entry into Lostock Hall shed, where my camera took a tumble! Bye for now Trevor 27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Gringo Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Thanks Trevor and Chris for more excellent pictures from 50 years ago and thanks to all for reading this stuff, as I complete my therapy course. Extra thanks are due also to Jamie for reminding me about those two books and I'll draft a more pertinent reply later. In short, you don't have to be a steam-nut, like me, Paul, or Jamie to enjoy those chapters, just a railway enthusiast. Days I'll Remember . . all my life, part two: On the road again [1]. IMHO, Preston station, with its overall roof that's still intact in 2018, is a 'proper' RAILWAY station. When a steam special arrives in the Twenty-first century, for just a few seconds, you could almost be back in those Swinging Sixties [2]. Although the East Lancashire lines have been replaced with a large strip of tarmacadam and concrete plus a lot more contraction has taken place, you can still enjoy a hot mug of tea and a sticky bun not far from today's version of prototype railway operations. Back on August 1st 1968, the cafeteria on the down island platform at Preston was our prime objective. We arrived at 21:30 (on the 19:30 train from Manchester Victoria), intending to spend the night soaking up and inhaling the atmosphere of the working steam railway for one more time in the last 'cathedral of steam': before setting off for three final walks on the dusty cinder paths of those all important engine sheds (10A, 10D and 10F). On our way up to Preston, Stanier 8F, 48773 (10F) was spotted on a duty at Bolton station looking remarkably clean, having just had the attention of members of the MNA. The first engine noted upon arrival at Preston was the station pilot, Stanier Class 5, 44806, which would also have benefited from a rub down with a few oily rags. Next, at 22:15, another respectably turned out Stanier 5, number 45110 arrived on a parcels duty from Colne. [3] As the clock approached Wilson Pickett's favourite time [4], whether the crew of pilot locomotive recognised us from a couple of weeks before, or we were just lucky boys yet again, around midnight we climbed aboard Stanier Class 5, number 44806 and spent the next few hours 'assisting' with the station pilot duties. In the periods when we were waiting for the next move, I managed to produce a pencil sketch looking along the boiler from the driver's seat. I'm certain that I intended one day (when I had acquired more of the necessary skills) to attempt a painting of this scene, but . . . [5]. Our train onwards to Carnforth was due out at 03:50, so sometime around 3:30am, we bade our farewell to the kind crew of 44806 and climbed down from the comfortable warm cab onto the deserted platform. A brisk walk around the station, taking in some deep breaths of the sharp early morning air, before boarding our northbound service. Arriving in Carnforth at 05.05, with the streaks of dawn light creeping across a cold clear sky, we made our way from the set of 'Brief Encounter' for the start of our very own last steamy affair [6]. More sniffy exploits and pieces of grit tomorrow! Keep steaming, John. Notes: [1] 'On the Road Again' was the first release by the U.S. Group, Canned Heat on 24th July 1968 and will make number 8 during its 15 weeks in the pop-chart. [2] Not 'Back in the USSR' the Beatles tune that was on the flip side of a Cliff Bennett and the Rebel Rousers hit in August 1966, when we were watching A4 Pacifics between Glasgow and Aberdeen. [3] Both 48773 and 45110 and some members of the MNA should be at Kidderminster station on Saturday 4th August 2018. [4] 'In the Midnight Hour', Pickett's first U.K. release in September 1965. [5] . . I never have tried to capture this memory in paint, I wonder why not, perhaps it might spoil this special memory of those few unforgettable hours? [6] Some scenes of this classic film, (written and produced by Noel Coward; directed by David Lean and starring Trevor Howard and Celia Johnson) were shot on Carnforth station in 1945. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted August 2, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2, 2018 BBC1 is broadcasting parts of the news programme from Bewdley this morning as a news item about the 50 years since the end of steam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Radio Lancashire will also be covering the end of steam, concentrating on 4th August 1968. I understand that it will be available on the 50th anniversary and available on Faceache. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted August 2, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2, 2018 As long as the Daily Mail doesn't feel the need, I fear for the content! Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share Posted August 2, 2018 (edited) @ Old Gringo Well, John, those last two pieces of yours were particularly evocative! I agree that '(Thank you for the) Days' is particularly apt for the End of Steam - perfect timing, in fact. And I've already mentioned in an earlier post that 'I'm into something Good' from 1964 is my other steam-era song which strikes a chord. Your post yesterday ended with you and friends at Carnforth in the early morning of 2nd August 1968 - which is when I'll take up my own story again... Friday 2nd August 1968 An early start from the Youth Hostel found me down at the station to photograph the morning short freight, headed once again by 75048 75048 at Arnside on 2nd August As a repeat of Thursday, 45231 followed with a westbound ballast train, but tender-first this time. Some other enthusiasts, one of them known to me, had arrived on the platform to take photographs - "Ah, one of the Low Fell contingent!" he remarked on seeing me. With not much time for small talk I joined the 09.23 for Carnforth with D324 at the head. Perhaps my path crossed at Carnforth with that of John (I might find out with Old gringo's next post?) but not for long as I see that my stay on the platform was brief (as in 'Brief Encounter' - see what I did there?) and I boarded the 09.41 heading south with D1848 as far as Lancaster, followed by D428 on the 09.59 from there to Preston. (If I remember correctly the two trains combined at Lancaster.) John has mentioned in his last post that Preston station has contracted since steam days, with the loss of the East Lancs platforms. I didn't know what lay in store at the time, but here's a (possibly quite rare?) view looking across this part, which closed in the 1970s, I believe. I have no recollection of where I was standing to get this picture! 45025 pushes an inspection saloon in to the East Lancs platforms at Preston on 2nd August. There's a D400 waiting to head south in the background, in the main part of the station. Other activity I photographed was 44874 with freight and 45212 on a short trip working. 44874 with a short freight (you can just see the brake van on the right) heading south at Preston on 2nd August 45212 arrives from the north with a trip working on 2nd August with various enthusiasts on the left. John, is this you? With my newly acquired shed permit in my pocket I made for Lostock Hall on the 12.13 dmu, and was soon in among the locos at the shed, many nicely cleaned for the coming weekend's 'specials'. Although these have been uploaded before, here are two views again, showing 45388, 45110 and 45260. And then, disaster struck! I had been using my home-made tripod, as described earlier, when it overbalanced and the camera crashed on to the concrete floor. (I think I was by the coaling stage when it happened.) Gingerly I picked it up and gently shook it - nothing. I shook it harder - still no sound of anything loose inside. The lens looked OK (it wasn't an interchangeable lens so I couldn't tell what it was like on the back) but there was a nasty dent around it. Had it been a lucky escape, or had I put an end to further photography? With a sickening feeling I made a note of which frame I had reached and gently rewound the film, taking care not to pull it right back into the cassette, and opened the back. Hm, nothing seemed to be wrong inside, so all I could do was hope for the best and carry on. This had certainly taken the wind out of my sails and I sadly walked back to the centre of Preston and took the camera into a photography shop I came across for them to have a look. I'm not sure what I was expecting them to do(!) but they said it would take several weeks to be sent for repair and would probably cost nearly as much I had paid for it second-hand the previous year. Several weeks! Steam was ending this weekend, damn it! With a heavy heart I joined the 16.45 dmu out of Preston, and alighted at Hest Bank. Goodness knows why, and I said in an earlier post when I saw the pigeons being released at the station that it had been by only visit there. I was wrong, this was my second. Another dmu took me back to Carnforth, where I reinserted the film, wound on a few frames past the last shot to be on the safe side, and took several views in the afternoon light including this one, hoping everything would be OK. 44894 and 70013 at Carnforth shed on 2nd August. Of course, I didn't know at the time if the camera was still working! It seems the only obvious effect on picture quality was a loss of sharpness on the extreme left edge which I've included in this crop. Oh, and the stiffness I now discovered in changing settings! I was so annoyed and upset that I seriously thought about abandoning the week there and then and returning home by the next train. A check of the timetable revealed this was not a practical reality so late in the day, so sadly I returned to Arnside by dmu, and didn't even note the loco on the Barrow parcels. Would I feel happier in the morning? Well, I'm glad I stayed, as I will recount tomorrow! Cheers Trevor Edited August 2, 2018 by Trev52A 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Louch Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 @ Old Gringo Well, John, those last two pieces of yours were particularly evocative! I agree that '(Thank you for the) Days' is particularly apt for then End of Steam - perfect timing, in fact. And I've already mentioned in an earlier post that 'I'm into something Good' from 1964 is my other steam-era song which strikes a chord. Your post yesterday ended with you and friends at Carnforth in the early morning of 2nd August 1968 - which is when I'll take up my own story again... Friday 2nd August 1968 An early start from the Youth Hostel found me down at the station to photograph the morning short freight, headed once again by 75048 (569bS) 75048 Arnside station 2-8-68 (Trevor Ermel) .jpg 75048 at Arnside on 2nd August As a repeat of Thursday, 45231 followed with a westbound ballast train, but tender-first this time. Some other enthusiasts, one of them known to me, had arrived on the platform to take photographs - "Ah, one of the Low Fell contingent!" he remarked on seeing me. With not much time for small talk I joined the 09.23 for Carnforth with D324 at the head. Perhaps my path crossed at Carnforth with that of John (I might find out with Old gringo's next post?) but not for long as I see that my stay on the platform was brief (as in 'Brief Encounter' - see what I did there?) and I boarded the 09.41 heading south with D1848 as far as Lancaster, followed by D428 on the 09.59 from there to Preston. (If I remember correctly the two trains combined at Lancaster.) John has mentioned in his last post that Preston station has contracted since steam days, with the loss of the East Lancs platforms. I didn't know what lay in store at the time, but here's a (possibly quite rare?) view looking across this part, which closed in the 1970s, I believe. I have no recollection of where I was standing to get this picture! (692cS) 45025+Inspectors saloon Preston station 2-8-68 (Trevor Ermel).jpg 45025 pushes an inspection saloon in to the East Lancs platforms at Preston on 2nd August. There's a D400 waiting to head south in the background, in the main part of the station. Other activity I photographed was 44874 with freight and 45212 on a short trip working. (881aS) 44874 Preston 2-8-68 (Trevor Ermel) .jpg 44874 with a short freight (you can just see the brake van on the right) heading south at Preston on 2nd August (689c) 45212 Preston station 02-08-68 (Trevor Ermel) .jpg 45212 arrives from the north with a trip working on 2nd August with various enthusiasts on the left. John, is this you? With my newly acquired shed permit in my pocket I made for Lostock Hall on the 12.13 dmu, and was soon in among the locos at the shed, many nicely cleaned for the coming weekend's 'specials'. Although these have been uploaded before, here are two views again, showing 45388, 45110 and 45260. (618a) 45388+45110+45260 Lostock Hall MPD 02-08-68 (Trevor Ermel) .jpg (616cS) 45110+45260 Lostock Hall MPD 02-08-68 (Trevor Ermel) .jpg And then, disaster struck! I had been using my home-made tripod, as described earlier, when it overbalanced and the camera crashed on to the concrete floor. (I think I was by the coaling stage when it happened.) Gingerly I picked it up and gently shook it - nothing. I shook it harder - still no sound of anything loose inside. The lens looked OK (it wasn't an interchangeable lens so I couldn't tell what it was like on the back) but there was a nasty dent around it. Had it been a lucky escape, or had I put an end to further photography? With a sickening feeling I made a note of which frame I had reached and gently rewound the film, taking care not to pull it right back into the cassette, and opened the back. Hm, nothing seemed to be wrong inside, so all I could do was hope for the best and carry on. This had certainly taken the wind out of my sails and I sadly walked back to the centre of Preston and took the camera into a photography shop I came across for them to have a look. I'm not sure what I was expecting them to do(!) but they said it would take several weeks to be sent for repair and would probably cost nearly as much I had paid for it second-hand the previous year. Several weeks! Steam was ending this weekend, damn it! With a heavy heart I joined the 16.45 dmu out of Preston, and alighted at Hest Bank. Goodness knows why, and I said in an earlier post when I saw the pigeons being released at the station that it had been by only visit there. I was wrong, this was my second. Another dmu took me back to Carnforth, where I reinserted the film, wound on a few frames past the last shot to be on the safe side, and took several views in the afternoon light including this one, hoping everything would be OK. (694b) 44894+70013 Carnforth MPD 2-8-68 (Trevor Ermel).jpg 44894 and 70013 at Carnforth shed on 2nd August. Of course, I didn't know at the time if the camera was still working! It seems the only obvious effect on picture quality was a loss of sharpness on the extreme left edge which I've included in this crop. Oh, and the stiffness I now discovered in changing settings! I was so annoyed and upset that I seriously thought about abandoning the week there and then and returning home by the next train. A check of the timetable revealed this was not a practical reality so late in the day, so sadly I returned to Arnside by dmu, and didn't even note the loco on the Barrow parcels. Would I feel happier in the morning? Well, I'm glad I stayed, as I will recount tomorrow! Cheers Trevor Trevor, once again such a wonderful and evocative post. Really brings the events of 50 years ago to life. Sincere thanks to you, John and all of the others for posting such brilliant reminisces and fantastic photos. They deserve to go into a book! Best wishes, Andy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullie Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 As long as the Daily Mail doesn't feel the need, I fear for the content! Mike. The end of steam and its effect on property prices here we come! Martyn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanchester Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Just backtracking a few days (and 50 years). 28 July 1968 Dad and I were on 1L43, an MRTS/SRVS special from Birmingham to most of Lancashire (70013, 75019 + 75027, 45073 + 45156, 48773). Dad had his new toy, a Grundig pocket dictaphone type thing. Useless as he discovered for recording locomotive sounds, but he made a sort of intermittent commentary. The tape's now lost, but I particularly remember points where he commented on graffitti painted on bridges etc. I suppose 'Kropotkin lives!' was fairly standard for that exciting summer of '68 (exciting at least if you wore black polo-necks and smoked Gitanes - I was a tad young for either), but the one that really stood out for him, I think somewhere between Bolton and Euxton Junction, was, in fairly bright paint 'Open a second front now'. Whether that was a genuine WW2 survivor, or a very early example of post modern irony, I haven't a clue! Talking of music, were we spotters from Wharton Park, Durham in 1964 the only kids who though 'Needles and Pins', the Searchers version, was really great through association with a certain Deltic? Or was that just sad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Louch Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 The end of steam and its effect on property prices here we come! Martyn Or was the Duke of Edinburgh responsible for the end of steam?!!! I'll get me coat.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted August 2, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 2, 2018 JTalking of music, were we spotters from Wharton Park, Durham in 1964 the only kids who though 'Needles and Pins', the Searchers version, was really great through association with a certain Deltic? Or was that just sad? You weren't and I set it as a quiz question one year at our club quiz. I also emailed it to Roger Ford (Captain Deltic) at the end of another totally unrelated email. He didn't get it then his wife did to his disgust and amusement. My quiz questions were:- a) Who sang about a Deltic b) What was it's name and c) What was it's number, D or Tops accepted. Jamie 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share Posted August 2, 2018 (edited) Trevor, once again such a wonderful and evocative post. Really brings the events of 50 years ago to life. Sincere thanks to you, John and all of the others for posting such brilliant reminisces and fantastic photos. They deserve to go into a book! Best wishes, Andy Many thanks for the kind words, Andy. I can't speak for anyone else, of course, but as for my pictures going into a book, the only way that would happen is if I made my own, like this: Has anyone else made online photobooks? Mine was via the Jessops software, but lots of companies offer this service now. Cheers Trevor Edited August 2, 2018 by Trev52A 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephenwolsten Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Thanks for some wonderful photos and memories. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgood Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Many thanks for the kind words, Andy. I can't speak for anyone else, of course, but as for my pictures going into a book, the only way that would happen is if I made my own, like this: (DSC_0004a) .jpg Has anyone else made online photobooks? Mine was via the Jessops software, but lots of companies offer this service now. Cheers Trevor Used Photobox for a few - can be good quality but expensive. Is that just a mock-up, Trevor - or did you make a book? Have you made it available for others to buy or was it just for your own use? Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Having bought some of the Robert Adley books in the past I would say that your photographs and supporting text are far superior than his. It would be worth a punt I think Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Having bought some of the Robert Adley books in the past I would say that your photographs and supporting text are far superior than his. It would be worth a punt I think Jim I quite like the Adley books. I thought they were charming. But these photographs are of a different class. It's because they have the full scene rather than having all the clutter cut out and just having 3/4 views of locomotives. Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share Posted August 2, 2018 Several people have unexpectedly contacted me regarding the availability of my book (shown earlier in post #613) which I had made for my own use (although I am not complaining!) If anyone else would like to find out more then it might be a good idea to PM me please, to avoid this thread going a bit off topic too much. Cheers Trevor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share Posted August 2, 2018 I quite like the Adley books. I thought they were charming. But these photographs are of a different class. It's because they have the full scene rather than having all the clutter cut out and just having 3/4 views of locomotives. Jason Thanks for your comments, Jason. But I also agree with you about the Adley books - I have about three or four of them myself. Cheers Trevor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Gringo Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Nearly there, the Very End is in a week. Still not got me in shot Trevor! Days I'll Remember . . all my life, part three: My last shed bash! Having arrived at Carnforth at just gone 5am, a brisk walk in the cold morning brought us to the shed in around five minutes [1]. However, as the sun rose on August 2nd 1968, I decided to try and get a photograph from the higher ground rising to the west side of the shed and this was the less than perfect result around 5.45am: We stared down upon a motley collection of engines, including several that were already, or would be preserved: Numbers, 42073, 42085, 45025, 45231, 46441, 61306 and 70013. , many of which have appeared before. In total 21 Stanier Class 5, 4-6-0s were present, ten of which were still serviceable. The last Standard 5MT, 4-6-0, 73069, and four Standard 4MT, 4-6-0s, withdrawn 75009 and 75019, 75027, 75048, which all appeared in good condition. A visiting Stanier 8F, 48665 (10F) was also in steam, but classmate number 48124 was dead along with eleven condemned Stanier Fives, seven life-expired Standard Class 9F, 2-10-0s and 75020. IIRC, there weren't many other crazy kids around before 7am and the few staff we encountered didn't care about us, as long as we kept out of the way. Trevor photographed Class 4MT, 75048 on a short freight at ....... and here it is ready for the road about to go off shed to pick up the wagons. After 9am, we made our way back to the station to catch the 09:35 back to Preston. Trevor must have been on that platform too and caught a later train south. Arriving at Preston at 10:45, I spotted the overnight pilot, 44806, before we boarded the 11:05 for Rose Grove due in at Noon. On the way to Rose Grove, I noted 48723 shunting in the Ribble Sidings and we passed 48400 working a freight at Cherry Tree. 8F, 48393 was also shunting at Accrington and 48278 was working another freight towards Preston, somewhere near Hapton. Exactly two hours were spent at 10F, mainly wandering around the shed I suppose and dodging the children playing in the pools of water beside the dead engines. There were three serviceable Stanier Fives, 45096, 45407 and 45447 and three condemned members. Nineteen Stanier Eights completed the roster, seven of which were already condemned. I climbed part way up the coaling tower to survey the depressing scene and photographs have appeared in several books from that very same spot. The 14:00 service off Rose Grove had us back on the platforms at Preston for 14:55, easily in time for the 15:13 to Lostock Hall arriving at 15:30. A walk of just a few yards brought me to my last cinder pathway alongside the shed coded 10D, which was filled with just thirty-eight steam locomotives. For 110 minutes, we wandered around between the last ten Stanier Eights, twenty-six Stanier Fives and two condemned Ivatt Flying Piggies that were displayed amongst the piles of ash and clinker of a dying empire [2]. Trevor's photographs tell the story better than any words. So, that was it - the last shed bash and at 17:20 I was heading back to Preston. Twenty minutes later, we were travelling south, bound for 'Cottonopolis' Victoria and probably my last steam locomotive working in regular traffic was Stanier Eight, number 48727, which was noted as 'on a Northbound freight at Preston'. And this was my last photograph of a 'working' steam shed (edited - see steve4rosegrove's comment in post 622) - probably taken from the 17:20 departure from Lostock Hall and where I ran out of film! Next time we'll chase a few of the August 4th Specials. All the very best, John. Notes: [1] Anybody remember '(Walk me out in the) Morning Dew' by the Grateful Dead, a tune from 1967. Edit: and another version by Tim Rose!! [2] Ivatt Class 4MT, 2-6-0, No. 43106 had already departed for the Severn Valley Railway. Postscript: As another little piece of history very quickly fell into place, here's another odd statistic: apparently there were 46,736 visitors to the 125 locomotive sheds on the London Midland Region during 1949. I wonder what the figure was for the last London Midland Region sheds during the last 32 weeks of 1968? Source; page 33 of 'Railways' magazine No. 119 / 1950. 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Nearly there, the Very End is in a week. Still not got me in shot Trevor! Days I'll Remember . . all my life, part three: My last shed bash! Having arrived at Carnforth at just gone 5am, a brisk walk in the cold morning brought us to the shed in around five minutes [1]. However, as the sun rose on August 2nd 1968, I decided to try and get a photograph from the higher ground rising to the west side of the shed and this was the less than perfect result around 5.45am: Cars.jpg We stared down upon a motley collection of engines, including several that were already, or would be preserved: Numbers, 42073, 42085, 45025, 45231, 46441, 61306 and 70013. , many of which have appeared before. In total 21 Stanier Class 5, 4-6-0s were present, ten of which were still serviceable. The last Standard 5MT, 4-6-0, 73069, and four Standard 4MT, 4-6-0s numbers, 75009, 75019, 75027, 75048, all appeared in good condition. A visiting Stanier 8F, 48665 (10F) was also in steam, but classmate number 48124 was dead along with eleven condemned Stanier Fives, seven life-expired Standard Class 9F, 2-10-0s and 75020. IIRC, there weren't many other crazy kids around before 7am and the few staff we encountered didn't care about us, as long as we kept out of the way. Front of shed043.jpg Trevor photographed Class 4MT, 75048 on a short freight at ....... and here it is ready for the road about to go off shed to pick up the wagons. 75048.jpg After 9am, we made our way back to the station to catch the 09:35 back to Preston. Trevor must have been on that platform too and caught a later train south. Arriving at Preston at 10:45, I spotted the overnight pilot, 44806, before we boarded the 11:05 for Rose Grove due in at Noon. 44806.jpg On the way to Rose Grove, I noted 48723 shunting in the Ribble Sidings and we passed 48400 working a freight at Cherry Tree. 8F, 48393 was also shunting at Accrington and 48278 was working another freight towards Preston, somewhere near Hapton. Exactly two hours were spent at 10F, mainly wandering around the shed I suppose and dodging the children playing in the pools of water beside the dead engines. There were three serviceable Stanier Fives, 45096, 45407 and 45447 and three condemned members. Nineteen Stanier Eights completed the roster, seven of which were already condemned. I climbed part way up the coaling tower to survey the depressing scene and photographs have appeared in several books from that very same spot. The 14:00 service off Rose Grove had us back on the platforms at Preston for 14:55, easily in time for the 15:13 to Lostock Hall arriving at 15:30. A walk of just a few yards brought me to my last cinder pathway alongside the shed coded 10D, which was filled with just thirty-eight steam locomotives. For 110 minutes, we wandered around between the last ten Stanier Eights, twenty-six Stanier Fives and two condemned Ivatt Flying Piggies that were displayed amongst the piles of ash and clinker of a dying empire [2]. Trevor's photographs tell the story better than any words. So, that was it - the last shed bash and at 17:20 I was heading back to Preston. Twenty minutes later, we were travelling south, bound for 'Cottonopolis' Victoria and probably my last steam locomotive working in regular traffic was Stanier Eight, number 48727, which was noted as 'on a Northbound freight at Preston'. And this was my last photograph of a 'working' steam shed taken from the 14:00 departure from Rose Grove and where I ran out of film! Coaling Tower.jpg Next time we'll chase the August 4th Specials. All the very best, John. Notes: [1] Anybody remember '(Walk me out in the) Morning Dew' by the Grateful Dead, a tune from 1967. [2] Ivatt Class 4MT, 2-6-0, No. 43106 had already departed for the Severn Valley Railway. Postscript: As another little piece of history very quickly fell into place, here's another odd statistic: apparently there were 46,736 visitors to the 125 locomotive sheds on the London Midland Region during 1949. I wonder what the figure was for the last London Midland Region sheds during the last 32 weeks of 1968? Source; page 33 of 'Railways' magazine No. 119 / 1950. Certainly remember Morning Dew but not by the Grateful Dead, the version I remember was by Tim Rose, still have the single somewhere I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve4rosegrove Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Nearly there, the Very End is in a week. Still not got me in shot Trevor! Days I'll Remember . . all my life, part three: My last shed bash! Having arrived at Carnforth at just gone 5am, a brisk walk in the cold morning brought us to the shed in around five minutes [1]. However, as the sun rose on August 2nd 1968, I decided to try and get a photograph from the higher ground rising to the west side of the shed and this was the less than perfect result around 5.45am: Cars.jpg We stared down upon a motley collection of engines, including several that were already, or would be preserved: Numbers, 42073, 42085, 45025, 45231, 46441, 61306 and 70013. , many of which have appeared before. In total 21 Stanier Class 5, 4-6-0s were present, ten of which were still serviceable. The last Standard 5MT, 4-6-0, 73069, and four Standard 4MT, 4-6-0s numbers, 75009, 75019, 75027, 75048, all appeared in good condition. A visiting Stanier 8F, 48665 (10F) was also in steam, but classmate number 48124 was dead along with eleven condemned Stanier Fives, seven life-expired Standard Class 9F, 2-10-0s and 75020. IIRC, there weren't many other crazy kids around before 7am and the few staff we encountered didn't care about us, as long as we kept out of the way. Front of shed043.jpg Trevor photographed Class 4MT, 75048 on a short freight at ....... and here it is ready for the road about to go off shed to pick up the wagons. 75048.jpg After 9am, we made our way back to the station to catch the 09:35 back to Preston. Trevor must have been on that platform too and caught a later train south. Arriving at Preston at 10:45, I spotted the overnight pilot, 44806, before we boarded the 11:05 for Rose Grove due in at Noon. 44806.jpg On the way to Rose Grove, I noted 48723 shunting in the Ribble Sidings and we passed 48400 working a freight at Cherry Tree. 8F, 48393 was also shunting at Accrington and 48278 was working another freight towards Preston, somewhere near Hapton. Exactly two hours were spent at 10F, mainly wandering around the shed I suppose and dodging the children playing in the pools of water beside the dead engines. There were three serviceable Stanier Fives, 45096, 45407 and 45447 and three condemned members. Nineteen Stanier Eights completed the roster, seven of which were already condemned. I climbed part way up the coaling tower to survey the depressing scene and photographs have appeared in several books from that very same spot. The 14:00 service off Rose Grove had us back on the platforms at Preston for 14:55, easily in time for the 15:13 to Lostock Hall arriving at 15:30. A walk of just a few yards brought me to my last cinder pathway alongside the shed coded 10D, which was filled with just thirty-eight steam locomotives. For 110 minutes, we wandered around between the last ten Stanier Eights, twenty-six Stanier Fives and two condemned Ivatt Flying Piggies that were displayed amongst the piles of ash and clinker of a dying empire [2]. Trevor's photographs tell the story better than any words. So, that was it - the last shed bash and at 17:20 I was heading back to Preston. Twenty minutes later, we were travelling south, bound for 'Cottonopolis' Victoria and probably my last steam locomotive working in regular traffic was Stanier Eight, number 48727, which was noted as 'on a Northbound freight at Preston'. And this was my last photograph of a 'working' steam shed taken from the 14:00 departure from Rose Grove and where I ran out of film! Coaling Tower.jpg Next time we'll chase the August 4th Specials. All the very best, John. Notes: [1] Anybody remember '(Walk me out in the) Morning Dew' by the Grateful Dead, a tune from 1967. Edit: and a better one by Tim Rose!! [2] Ivatt Class 4MT, 2-6-0, No. 43106 had already departed for the Severn Valley Railway. Postscript: As another little piece of history very quickly fell into place, here's another odd statistic: apparently there were 46,736 visitors to the 125 locomotive sheds on the London Midland Region during 1949. I wonder what the figure was for the last London Midland Region sheds during the last 32 weeks of 1968? Source; page 33 of 'Railways' magazine No. 119 / 1950. Errrrrr are you sure that this particular 'photo is Rose Grove?? Sorry but I don't think that it is - the road for loading the coaler didn't go to the old coal hold (water tank. It has a flavour of Bolton to me, or possibly 10D? Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Gringo Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Errrrrr are you sure that this particular 'photo is Rose Grove?? Sorry but I don't think that it is - the road for loading the coaler didn't go to the old coal hold (water tank. It has a flavour of Bolton to me, or possibly 10D? Steve Morning Steve, You know I think you're right. It was the last frame on the film and I've always believed that I took it from the train leaving 10F, but . . . it might just as easily have been 10D at 17:20 and it does look more like Lostock Hall. It was definitely the last shot I took of a 'working' shed on August 2nd, honest! All the best, John. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Having bought some of the Robert Adley books in the past I would say that your photographs and supporting text are far superior than his. It would be worth a punt I think Jim What I liked about Adley is he ( most of the time) seemed to go to the same places as me but he had a better camera . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanchester Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Certainly remember Morning Dew but not by the Grateful Dead, the version I remember was by Tim Rose, still have the single somewhere I think. There's a good version on the Dead's triple live album recorded I think in the Concertgeboeuw in the Netherlands a few years later. Sadly I no longer have the album - it was acquired jointly with another lad in settlement of some schoolboy debt, and I lost touch with the co-owner, as you do. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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