Bulleidnutter Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 I think I will stick with changing the sides on the older ones for the time being. The increasing cost of OO is making O gauge more appealing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Graham_Muz Posted December 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2020 I have been able to take a close look and handle the first stunning EPs and my views are below. https://grahammuz.com/2020/12/23/Bachmann-bulleid-coaches-engineering-prototypes-arrive/ 12 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted December 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 23, 2020 13 minutes ago, Graham_Muz said: I have been able to take a close look and handle the first stunning EPs and my views are below. https://grahammuz.com/2020/12/23/Bachmann-bulleid-coaches-engineering-prototypes-arrive/ Hi Muz, great review. Nice to see that Bachmann (unlike Hornby with the original Maunsell releases) have grasped the importance of the variety of brake coaches to make up various set formations. Will they be doing a D2406? 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted December 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, 2ManySpams said: Hi Muz, great review. Nice to see that Bachmann (unlike Hornby with the original Maunsell releases) have grasped the importance of the variety of brake coaches to make up various set formations. Will they be doing a D2406? Thanks Chris, Re the 2406 never say never to coin a phrase... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted December 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2020 Hello Graham Many thanks for the link to the photos - much appreciated. I will join the (swelling?) ranks of those who will call for the Diag.2406 BCK. Brian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 They certainly look good but they really should take the plunge and add a Diag 2406 BCK as Brian suggests. I note the samples have gangway end boards. It would be good if they could add an ER-style board to their Thompson stock when they finally get round to doing them in maroon. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted December 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2020 Something like this? 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil gollin Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 . So, no excuse now for Bachmann not to produce a 4-COR. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted December 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, phil gollin said: . So, no excuse now for Bachmann not to produce a 4-COR. . Although the 4-cor is pretty much totally different in every way other than the number of wheels per coach... 1 4 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted December 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2020 These look great, but they should really stimulate Bachmann to produce something fairly mainstream to pull them rather than just fuelling more sales for their main competitor's locos.... Given the attention applied to detail differences in these coaches, I'd be confident in Bachmann tackling a couple of the U sub-classes. John 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted December 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Graham_Muz said: I have been able to take a close look and handle the first stunning EPs and my views are below. https://grahammuz.com/2020/12/23/Bachmann-bulleid-coaches-engineering-prototypes-arrive/ Thanks Graham. These have been a long time coming and so many thanks for your drive and input to get them here before I pop me clogs. They look very very good indeed and will (sadly) make my existing RTR fleets look pretty poor. hey ho. Phil 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil gollin Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 26 minutes ago, Dunsignalling said: These look great, but they should really stimulate Bachmann to produce something fairly mainstream to pull them rather than just fuelling more sales for their main competitor's locos.... Given the attention applied to detail differences in these coaches, I'd be confident in Bachmann tackling a couple of the U sub-classes. John . Or, some BR (ex-LBSCR) Billinton K-class 2-6-0's (very handsome, and rather different to other Southern 2-6-0's). . 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted December 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2020 1 hour ago, phil gollin said: . Or, some BR (ex-LBSCR) Billinton K-class 2-6-0's (very handsome, and rather different to other Southern 2-6-0's). . Agreed, the K was a lovely looking loco, and I count myself fortunate to have seen a couple of them as a lad. Whilst I'd certainly buy a K, I'd go 2 or 3 of the U, more if they covered enough variations. Bachmann have form with ex-SECR and ex-LBSCR prototypes, too, so I'd think the K more likely. Apart from the N (and to a lesser degree, the old LN) the blue team have avoided producing locos that ranged widely across the company/region. Either by omission or intent, they seem OK with leaving those to Hornby. so I felt something a bit more mainstream might be in order for a change. That said, crossover sales of Hornby locos and Bachmann coaches cut both ways and will have done neither any harm over the years. That'll no doubt continue with the new Bulleids. John 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
69843 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Well I was thinking about getting one to bodge into a D.2017 in EXXXXS Maroon, but I really don't think I could do that now-these are absolutely superb in EP form, and I'm certain will be brilliant when finally finished. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor7598 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Thanks for the info Graham, they do look good. I hope Bachmann have got their BR(S) shade of green sorted out. For a while they were convinced that loco hauled stock was a darker green than EMU's. If they use the same shade as their CEP's and EPB's, that's about right. My wallet is ready for a hammering!. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted December 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2020 Really impressed, any chance adding a Tavern car to the list. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pteremy Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Additional variants always welcome. But it would be good to see alternative liveries for the current diagrams within, say, a year, rather than the long wait we have had with some other types in recent years. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Godfrey Glyn Posted December 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2020 Many thanks Graham for this report and also thanks for your contribution to what looks like some stunning new RTR Bulleid coaches. The long wait looks like it will, after all, be worth it. Hopefully Bachmann will take up your prompting that Diagram 2406 is an essential addition and I would certainly agree with abd968008 that a Tavern car set would sell well and not just to Southern fans. all the best and a Happy Christmas to all! Godfrey 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 9 hours ago, Graham_Muz said: Although the 4-cor is pretty much totally different in every way other than the number of wheels per coach... ...... more than the wheels - the complete ( non-motor ) bogies - and er ........... er ..................... er - roof vents and periscopes !!?! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted December 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2020 4 hours ago, trevor7598 said: Thanks for the info Graham, they do look good. I hope Bachmann have got their BR(S) shade of green sorted out. For a while they were convinced that loco hauled stock was a darker green than EMU's. If they use the same shade as their CEP's and EPB's, that's about right. We did discuss the correct shade of BR(s) Green (minus some black) on Monday so hopefully watch this space. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Dare I ask this Is there any indication on what the price of these coaches will be? And when the price will be published? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 35 minutes ago, Pre Grouping fan said: Is there any indication on what the price of these coaches will be? No. 39 minutes ago, Pre Grouping fan said: And when the price will be published? When Bachmann feel that it is appropriate to announce it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 3rd Rail Exile Posted December 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Pre Grouping fan said: Dare I ask this Is there any indication on what the price of these coaches will be? And when the price will be published? Bachmann haven't indicated a price yet, and my chosen pre-order retailer has put £0.01 as a "placeholder" price. I've no idea when Bachmann will announce the RRP, but in these uncertain times they'd be foolish not to leave it as late as possible. In the current mix of circumstances all steps even down to the final shipping costs are volatile... Looking on the Bachmann website at the RRP of recent coaches I'd better start squirrelling away the pennies as I've got all 11 of the announced models on pre-order. Even with the allowable 15% level of discounting I'm expecting a release price significantly north of £50, and if you take the RRP of the Birdcage stock (£84.95) as a guide it could be quite frightening... But if I wasn't prepared to part with that sort of money, I wouldn't have pre-ordered on the release date (and yes, they are intended to run on a layout, they're not being bought as "collectables"). Whether they're "worth it" is something only each individual can decide, based on their particular circumstances. To me, yes they are looking as if they will be, based on the pictures of the EPs... Edited December 23, 2020 by 3rd Rail Exile Accidentally posted before typing was complete... 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattingleycustom Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 21 hours ago, Dunsignalling said: Agreed, the K was a lovely looking loco, and I count myself fortunate to have seen a couple of them as a lad. Whilst I'd certainly buy a K, I'd go 2 or 3 of the U, more if they covered enough variations. Bachmann have form with ex-SECR and ex-LBSCR prototypes, too, so I'd think the K more likely. Apart from the N (and to a lesser degree, the old LN) the blue team have avoided producing locos that ranged widely across the company/region. Either by omission or intent, they seem OK with leaving those to Hornby. so I felt something a bit more mainstream might be in order for a change. That said, crossover sales of Hornby locos and Bachmann coaches cut both ways and will have done neither any harm over the years. That'll no doubt continue with the new Bulleids. John Well I am going to stop going down the pub every night, stop eating out and ditch the expensive holidays and order some Bulleid coaches. I think the U Class is long overdue, there were 50 of the things after all. Smaller classes (e.g. Adams Radial, Beattie Well Tank) have been produced. If Bachmann really want to do something radical then why not do their own West Country/Battle of Britain, after all there were 110 of them and Hornby have never made the cab variation suitable for the earlier locos. Plenty of room for both players here I suggest (unlike Std 4 4-6-0s and A4s). Glenn 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted December 24, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 24, 2020 I will do a 'Bargain Hunt' and put an estimate on the new coaches of between £65 and £85. By that reckoning I shall have to sell my existing RTR Bulleids in Bulk Bargain Tubs at about £8 each, with possible discounts for multiple purchases. Merry frothing everyone. P. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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