davefrk Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 You have never lost the ability to spot a sales opening..not since your days of selling double glazing! A very happy new year too you and your missus Dave. D. Only trying to help.... All the best to you and yours. And, 'Lang may yer lumb reek'.... Dave. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NXEA! Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) I would still expect one in the next batch. Possibly a British Railways one as well, maybe even the BR green one. https://railway-photography.smugmug.com/LNER-Scotland/Holmes-Locomotives/Holmes-Tender-Engines/Holme-J36/Holmes-J36-/i-rtGW2Tv Jason Didn't know one was painted green! That would be a strong seller, surely. Edited January 1, 2019 by NXEA! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted January 1, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 1, 2019 Didn't know one was painted green! That would be a strong seller, surely. Think maybe crosswires somewhere. As far as I know there was never a green one in BR, LNER or even NBR days. Happy to be proved wrong though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Think maybe crosswires somewhere. As far as I know there was never a green one in BR, LNER or even NBR days. Happy to be proved wrong though Look in the link I posted. There is also a colour photo about of it somewhere. 65330 is definitely BR Apple Green. I think there were others as well as a J83 in similar livery. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted January 1, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) Look in the link I posted. There is also a colour photo about of it somewhere. 65330 is definitely BR Apple Green. I think there were others as well as a J83 in similar livery. Jason Wow Cheers Jason. You learn something new everyday! I only ever thought there were black ones! Edited January 2, 2019 by Legend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 60027Merlin Posted January 1, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 1, 2019 Don't count on a green one being produced! Only two received LNER Apple Green in 1946. One lasted until 1948 before being painted black and the other until 1951. As Henry Ford said "You can have any colour you want so long as it is black" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Alder Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 I have a Colour rail slide of one around the NE in green; whether it is LNER or BR I'm not sure. Part of hundreds that are awaiting scanning.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bon Accord Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) Don't count on a green one being produced! Only two received LNER Apple Green in 1946. One lasted until 1948 before being painted black and the other until 1951. As Henry Ford said "You can have any colour you want so long as it is black" When Hornby initially proposed producing a J36 back in the early 80s, the pre production sample made was in apple green. There was photographs circulating online of it together with a proposed Hornby V2 model, can't find it just now however. Edited January 2, 2019 by Bon Accord Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Don't count on a green one being produced! Only two received LNER Apple Green in 1946. One lasted until 1948 before being painted black and the other until 1951. As Henry Ford said "You can have any colour you want so long as it is black" They made a BR Apple Green L1 though. As well as B12, D16 and B1s. I reckon it's more than likely they'll make a green one. Possibly one of the reasons they went for a J36 as opposed to dozens of other 0-6-0s. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Daddyman Posted January 2, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 2, 2019 Haig had a tender cab fitted when withdrawn. IMG_2989.jpg Dave. With rear steps on the tender too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 ...There is also a colour photo about of it somewhere. 65330 is definitely BR Apple Green... Available from Colour-Rail ref. SC273, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45568 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Another 'WOW; vote from me here in Oz! 65311 arrived today, thank you Rails, who honoured their pre-order price. A beautiful little model, i've hankered after one since Gem bought out their kit. Quite how it fits into an East Midlands setting in the 1950-60s I have yet to work out, but I have started two LGW peak roof vans from ancient Kirk kits to keep it company. Hornby have really provided some excellent 0.6.0 types, the J15, 700 and now the J36. A 'Glen' on Monday would be the icing on the (Scottish) cake! Cheers from Oz, Peter C. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOCJACOB Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Cant get a J36 to East Midlands but 2 did make it to the Malton area during WW2. Didn't Maude go to Rainhill Anniversary bash under her own steam? A unique achievement if I recall correctly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Cant get a J36 to East Midlands but 2 did make it to the Malton area during WW2. Didn't Maude go to Rainhill Anniversary bash under her own steam? A unique achievement if I recall correctly. I think everything went by rail as there wasn't road access. Most of it in steam, including Lion. It's just that Maude travelled a long distance. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Cant get a J36 to East Midlands but 2 did make it to the Malton area during WW2. Didn't Maude go to Rainhill Anniversary bash under her own steam? A unique achievement if I recall correctly. Wonder which route the ones that went to France took? The obvious route would have been down the ECML across London and then to Dover Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Islesy Posted January 2, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 2, 2019 Wonder which route the ones that went to France took? The obvious route would have been down the ECML across London and then to Dover Jim Jim, it is likely that they would have travelled out to the Western Front from Richborough Port, however I haven't been able to confirm this (as yet). Best wishes, Paul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted January 2, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 2, 2019 When Hornby initially proposed producing a J36 back in the early 80s, the pre production sample made was in apple green. There was photographs circulating online of it together with a proposed Hornby V2 model, can't find it just now however. Just looked this up in Pat Hammons book . Originally devised to take over from the Midland 3F whose tooling was worn out , one of 5 new locos approved for introduction in 1980. Unfortunately it got deleted in 1978. It was going to be produced in apple green as 5211(I always thought that was Hornby exercising a bit of license, after all they gave us red Jinties) . To some extent I'm glad it was never produced as it definitely lacks the finesse of the one just introduced! On the other hand we'd have received one 37 years earlier! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Just looked this up in Pat Hammons book . Originally devised to take over from the Midland 3F whose tooling was worn out , one of 5 new locos approved for introduction in 1980. Unfortunately it got deleted in 1978. It was going to be produced in apple green as 5211(I always thought that was Hornby exercising a bit of license, after all they gave us red Jinties) . To some extent I'm glad it was never produced as it definitely lacks the finesse of the one just introduced! On the other hand we'd have received one 37 years earlier! I believe that they saw the stuff that Mainline and Airfix were making and changed their minds. This was the time they were making monstrosities such as Sir Dinadan. The new models they released soon after were much better. B17, D49, etc. The red Jinty was proper though. It was based on the preserved example. https://www.semaphoresandsteam.com/p422252165/h51F56934#h51f56934 Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 60027Merlin Posted January 2, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 2, 2019 Just looked this up in Pat Hammons book . Originally devised to take over from the Midland 3F whose tooling was worn out , one of 5 new locos approved for introduction in 1980. Unfortunately it got deleted in 1978. It was going to be produced in apple green as 5211(I always thought that was Hornby exercising a bit of license, after all they gave us red Jinties) . To some extent I'm glad it was never produced as it definitely lacks the finesse of the one just introduced! On the other hand we'd have received one 37 years earlier! Fortunately by circa 1975 GEM, to the delight of a great many of us modelling the local scene, produced their J36 kit which was far superior to that proposed by Hornby. When one of the more well connected local modellers managed to obtain a photo of the Hornby offering we were, all to a man, not impressed, with the view expressed that it was more like a toy. Although as you write, it is now 37 years later, but we now have a model produced by Hornby which is just that - a quite superb model. Hopefully they will now follow GEM's lead from these great kit producing days in the 70s and produce both a Glen and a Scott which can be done with the appropriate planning/tooling. - Plus a couple of N.B.R. coaches as well which could still be seen in secondary passenger work in the 50s. The worrying feature of all of this is the proverbial question - where has the time gone? 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Reid Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) I think everything went by rail as there wasn't road access. Most of it in steam, including Lion. It's just that Maude travelled a long distance. Jason Most might have been in light steam, but Maude managed to travel with the two Caley coaches in both directions without at some point (if I'm remembering correctly)! an accompanying diesel loco - entirely under its own steam, much to the chagrin of a few of the other preservation groups at the time. There was road access to Bold Colliery where all the loco's were stabled however these were the days when moving stuff by road when it was both fit and could run on rails was a non starter. Edited January 3, 2019 by Bob Reid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted January 3, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 3, 2019 Most might have been in light steam, but Maude managed to travel with the two Caley coaches in both directions without at some point (if I'm remembering correctly)! an accompanying diesel loco - entirely under its own steam, much to the chagrin of a few of the other preservation groups at the time. There was road access to Bold Colliery where all the loco's were stabled however these were the days when moving stuff by road when it was both fit and could run on rails was a non starter.There’s a photographers story of it here..http://www.geoffspages.co.uk/raildiary/maude.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Reid Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 By contrast, on the way home there wasn't much chance of lineside fires - it peed down. A tender cab would've been handy.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted January 3, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 3, 2019 I wonder if we will be able to buy the NEM socket plough separately at some point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 No green one announced. But ROD 5662 in khaki and 65235 Gough with British Railways lettering. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bon Accord Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 A strange pairing. I'd have thought a late crest unnamed example possibly with a tender cab would have been a dead cert and eminently sellable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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